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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2020, 04:25:02 am »
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If the opposing candidate was Bernie Sanders, I might consider a Conservative who was also gay, I'd have to explore all avenues.
I doubt there will be many responses, since it appears HDS (homosexuality derangement syndrome" overides all else.

Comments by Goldwater, Reagan and now Trump warrant BR denial.

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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2020, 06:56:38 am »
Not surprised since the OP suffers from extreme TDS. But the misrepresentations like hers, are just fine here, and represent a "protected slass," evidenced by fast Mod interventions.

It was a thread like this that got me the boot at FR for daring to point out how Trump welcomed Bruce Jenner to use whatever restroom he wanted to use in Trump Towers...

It may get me the boot here one day, but when it comes to censoring political speech on something the President actually said, I will risk it. Trump is a NY values guy, and it shows no matter what his fan base says.

Someone upthread mentioned all folks are sinners... and that is true, but I be dang if I want to be the one that calls evil good. Homosexuals in political office is never acceptable IMHO...
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2020, 07:56:48 am »
How can one "misrepresent" the words that Trump actually said when one says what he actually said?

And why, in heaven's name, should the Mods intervene when someone posts an article that says what the President actually said?

Sometimes when the truth is revealed too quickly, often before the idea of the Devine and Constitutional infalibility of the President is accepted by a MAGA voter, President Trump's words can be misinterpreted.  Stuff like "I prefer my War Heroes don't get captured." or "Grab 'em by the pu$$y."  or "Bullshit."

Sometimes when the President reveals the holy vengeance of Trump, with a righteous rejection of all critics at the national prayer breakfast it's somehow seen as the antithisis of Christ by some.

Rather than dwell on the actual words of Trump, it is safer to pretend he meant whatever you want to believe he meant, and remember he was the one who saved Christmas.


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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #53 on: February 15, 2020, 11:15:59 am »
You write very well @Smokin Joe  Your style is clear and engaging.  And, you present your thoughts without judging or belittling opinions held by others --- another gift.

I hope you're using these gifts beyond the Briefing Room. 

I'm curious --- are you involved with your local school board, church, city council or state government?
Thank you for your kind words. Unfortunately, my work takes me afield far too extensively to be very involved on a local level--I am just not there often enough or predictably enough, though I contribute what I can, when I can.
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #54 on: February 15, 2020, 11:21:10 am »
I doubt there will be many responses, since it appears HDS (homosexuality derangement syndrome" overides all else.

Comments by Goldwater, Reagan and now Trump warrant BR denial.

HDS and TDS uber alles
Why is it you contend that being morally opposed to something is a "Derangement syndrome"? Do we all have "Socialism Derangement Syndrome"? Or "Hillary Derangement Syndrome"?

Perhaps the derangement is in supporting something most folks find unsupportable, for whatever reason, or maybe we could simply disagree without trying to make it a psychological condition?

If you know of a culture or country where the majority were homosexuals that lasted perhaps you could cite them as an example of how that brought stability to the society.
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #55 on: February 15, 2020, 11:39:01 am »
Why is it you contend that being morally opposed to something is a "Derangement syndrome"? Do we all have "Socialism Derangement Syndrome"? Or "Hillary Derangement Syndrome"?

Perhaps the derangement is in supporting something most folks find unsupportable, for whatever reason, or maybe we could simply disagree without trying to make it a psychological condition?

If you know of a culture or country where the majority were homosexuals that lasted perhaps you could cite them as an example of how that brought stability to the society.

Maybe I am from an older generation, that viewed homoseuxality as abnormal.  Back in the day, i considered myself pretty tolerant (say versus my peers) around this specific demographic. A live and let live philosophy.   Then at somepoint that I can't pinpoint,  that demographic suddenly became militant,  belligerent, and left wing.  Nowadays, that lifestyle is force fed to us in mass quantities in the media,and I do not like it one bit.  My level of tolerance has dropped proportionally. 
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #56 on: February 15, 2020, 12:44:26 pm »
Maybe I am from an older generation, that viewed homoseuxality as abnormal.  Back in the day, i considered myself pretty tolerant (say versus my peers) around this specific demographic. A live and let live philosophy.   Then at somepoint that I can't pinpoint,  that demographic suddenly became militant,  belligerent, and left wing.  Nowadays, that lifestyle is force fed to us in mass quantities in the media,and I do not like it one bit.  My level of tolerance has dropped proportionally.
That is my situation as well. Coming out of their closets, well, we knew they were in there. We'd seen Liberace, but it didn't stop there, suddenly parading down the street and invading the schools, schools which we had been told we  couldn't pray to the very God that annihilated Sodom and Gomorrah.

I used to smoke cigarettes, and when I did, I was considerate--especially in enclosed spaces. I asked, and if people minded, I didn't. When the concept of non-smoking areas in restaurants came around, I was all for it, not just out of consideration, but to bring an end to complaints. A fairly large local restaurant went to considerable expense to set up their non-smoking area, separated by glass partitions and with a separate HVAC system that kept the air pressure in the smoking section slightly lower than in the rest of the restaurant, with the effect that you could stand by the open doorway and not smell the smoke inside. Shortly after that, anti-tobacco jihadis decided that smokers had no place indoors (in North Dakota!) and the restaurants, and taverns, lounges, and downtown working class (and even 'skid row') bars were suddenly required by law to be smoke free. Then you had to be outside and 50' from the door to have a cigarette. Not just relegated to the back of the bus, but kicked off.
 
Tolerance is one thing. Even (what I consider) reasonable accommodation is okay, but I have found through experience that anyone who wants to encroach on what I do, how I live, how many lawn gnomes I can have in the yard, whatever, is someone to be viewed with great suspicion, to be watched vigilantly, who more often than not will try to impose their little tyrannies on me. I no longer give that inch.
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #58 on: February 15, 2020, 04:02:06 pm »
Other than my wife, I really don't care what adult anyone else prefers to have sex with.  As long as there is no opportunity for blackmail, it shouldn't matter.  To not vote for someone because they are homosexual is just as egregious as voting for someone because they are.  And Buttigieg is the one who deserves blame here because he is the one injecting his personal sexual preference into the campaign.  And by doing so, he reveals that acceptance of his lifestyle choice is a much higher priority than actually running the country.
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #59 on: February 15, 2020, 04:57:14 pm »
The Republican Party made it very clear that morality/ethics/integrity were no longer a priority when it nominated our current President.

Apparently an 'ends justifies the means' Populism has taken over and neither party now supports the values that the country requires to survive.

It's not about not caring what people do "in their bedrooms." (A flimsy excuse, if ever there was one).  It's giving up on the foundation of society...... the family........ and the values it takes to keep it intact.

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« Reply #60 on: February 15, 2020, 05:01:43 pm »
That is my situation as well. Coming out of their closets, well, we knew they were in there. We'd seen Liberace, but it didn't stop there, suddenly parading down the street and invading the schools, schools which we had been told we  couldn't pray to the very God that annihilated Sodom and Gomorrah.

It is evil rising, as anyone who studies history can attest... And with evil comes tyranny. Every time.

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« Reply #61 on: February 15, 2020, 05:08:13 pm »
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #62 on: February 15, 2020, 05:37:59 pm »
I've said it before and I will say it again:

As long as I want a wife but continue to be rejected, I will have ZERO sympathy for anyone in the alphabet soup lobby. None. My need to be loved is no less than theirs... but no one is out there advocating for my needs being a constitutional right. Instead, it's somehow my fault.

Homosexuality is lauded in this society, but involuntary loneliness is scorned. They're "stunning and brave." We're supposedly potential mass shooters in waiting. It's pure hypocrisy.

Just this morning I read on the BBC website a story about sex robots. Disclaimer: I am not in the market for a sex robot; they're out of my price range. But there are efforts underway to construct robots using artificial intelligence to at least provide some semblance of the intimacy and personal acceptance, fundamental cravings of most sane people, that have been denied. Now, you'd think that would be a plus, since men would no longer have to violate a woman's autonomy to fill his needs, right? Wrong. Already, there are activists calling for these sex robots to be banned. They might cause "psychological damage," they say. Yeah, fulfillment is so damaging. Do you know what else causes psychological damage? Repeated rejection! Especially when a man has zero success with women. All you're doing is denying these men any semblance of happiness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51330261

So as long as the alphabet soup lobby targets and harasses Christian businesses into involuntary servitude, as long as they have support from the media and academia, while people like me are ostracized for our failures... I will have no sympathy for their cause.

They will do what they will. I will judge a candidate by his or her policy. An evangelist for the alphabet soup lobby will NEVER get my vote.
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #63 on: February 15, 2020, 06:55:14 pm »
Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter. -Isaiah 5:20



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That is the decision plaguing me. To choose death and freedom. Or to continue to live this lie.

You talk about the importance of family.

If it was only I, I would choose death and freedom. Now.

But it isn't only about me anymore.

She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #64 on: February 15, 2020, 07:09:22 pm »
I've said it before and I will say it again:

As long as I want a wife but continue to be rejected, I will have ZERO sympathy for anyone in the alphabet soup lobby. None. My need to be loved is no less than theirs... but no one is out there advocating for my needs being a constitutional right. Instead, it's somehow my fault.

Homosexuality is lauded in this society, but involuntary loneliness is scorned. They're "stunning and brave." We're supposedly potential mass shooters in waiting. It's pure hypocrisy.

Just this morning I read on the BBC website a story about sex robots. Disclaimer: I am not in the market for a sex robot; they're out of my price range. But there are efforts underway to construct robots using artificial intelligence to at least provide some semblance of the intimacy and personal acceptance, fundamental cravings of most sane people, that have been denied. Now, you'd think that would be a plus, since men would no longer have to violate a woman's autonomy to fill his needs, right? Wrong. Already, there are activists calling for these sex robots to be banned. They might cause "psychological damage," they say. Yeah, fulfillment is so damaging. Do you know what else causes psychological damage? Repeated rejection! Especially when a man has zero success with women. All you're doing is denying these men any semblance of happiness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51330261

So as long as the alphabet soup lobby targets and harasses Christian businesses into involuntary servitude, as long as they have support from the media and academia, while people like me are ostracized for our failures... I will have no sympathy for their cause.

They will do what they will. I will judge a candidate by his or her policy. An evangelist for the alphabet soup lobby will NEVER get my vote.

Life is a strange thing to me. I never wanted a wife.

There are only two things to be done to change anything and that is by not doing them.

1. Stop voting.

2. Stop rendering unto Caesar.
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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #65 on: February 15, 2020, 07:29:46 pm »
Life is a strange thing to me. I never wanted a wife.

There are only two things to be done to change anything and that is by not doing them.

1. Stop voting.

2. Stop rendering unto Caesar.

If people stop doing #1, then they will be forced to continuing rendering unto Caesar at gunpoint.
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« Reply #66 on: February 15, 2020, 07:38:45 pm »
That is the decision plaguing me. To choose death and freedom. Or to continue to live this lie.

You talk about the importance of family.

If it was only I, I would choose death and freedom. Now.

But it isn't only about me anymore.

Nope. In the Christian sense, the burden is one to be carried. Sorry pal. It's time to check out when YHWH punches your ticket.

I used to consider the same, with my family destroyed and my strength stolen from me, stuck in that damnable chair... But I have come to find out that what the youth needs from me is not the strength of my body, but rather the strength of my will, and my ability to tell them the truth as my years have taught it to me.

Tough sh*t amigo, there it is. What are you teaching them by checking out?

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Re: Trump says he would vote for a gay president
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2020, 07:43:44 pm »
Life is a strange thing to me. I never wanted a wife.

There are only two things to be done to change anything and that is by not doing them.

1. Stop voting.

2. Stop rendering unto Caesar.

Remember, the very air in Caesar's lungs belongs to YHWH. Render unto Caesar, indeed. Rather, render unto YHWH that which is YHWH's. That's what that funny little bit means. That coin wasn't Caesar's in the first place.

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« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2020, 07:46:18 pm »
If people stop doing #1, then they will be forced to continuing rendering unto Caesar at gunpoint.

Right.

And that is when the fight started...

To vote at all at any level is unholy. It is engaging evil on its terms.

The recent impeachment and trial of Trump did something to me at a very deep level.

The reins of the reign rain acid on my soul.




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« Reply #69 on: February 15, 2020, 07:51:25 pm »

But it isn't only about me anymore.

And I'll tell you a little secret Fred... It never was about you. You touch many others other than kin. Never can tell when you have put meaning into something for someone. I don't cuss my rowdy youth anymore. Even when that was me - I have had old friends from those days tell me years later that my sense of justice, even then, kept them from doing worse things. And now, I can't begin to tell you how many times the Father have put folks in my path - Folks that needed my specific testimony. And thus the worst things I have done have been turned into victory. Not by me of course... It ain't about me.

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« Reply #70 on: February 15, 2020, 07:52:35 pm »
Nope. In the Christian sense, the burden is one to be carried. Sorry pal. It's time to check out when YHWH punches your ticket.

I used to consider the same, with my family destroyed and my strength stolen from me, stuck in that damnable chair... But I have come to find out that what the youth needs from me is not the strength of my body, but rather the strength of my will, and my ability to tell them the truth as my years have taught it to me.

Tough sh*t amigo, there it is. What are you teaching them by checking out?

You misunderstand. I have no plans of checking out.

Rather, it is to STOP THIS SHIT.
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« Reply #71 on: February 15, 2020, 07:58:28 pm »
To vote at all at any level is unholy. It is engaging evil on its terms.

--Voting only encourages them.
--If voting ever changed things, it would be illegal.
--We're at the awkward stage, when it's to late to vote and too early to shoot.

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The reins of the reign rain acid on my soul.

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« Reply #72 on: February 15, 2020, 07:59:59 pm »
You misunderstand. I have no plans of checking out.

Rather, it is to STOP THIS SHIT.

I am all *FOR* stopping it. Surely it is ours to do, rather than to pass it down to our children. The time for choosing is nigh upon us. But however that works, that ain't you alone, or me alone. That ain't even you and me. That has to be a groundswell, or it accounts for nothing.

The TEA party was the right thing. The standoff in the Nevada desert was the right thing. What the next right thing is I don't know.

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« Reply #73 on: February 15, 2020, 08:33:54 pm »
I am all *FOR* stopping it. Surely it is ours to do, rather than to pass it down to our children. The time for choosing is nigh upon us. But however that works, that ain't you alone, or me alone. That ain't even you and me. That has to be a groundswell, or it accounts for nothing.

The TEA party was the right thing. The standoff in the Nevada desert was the right thing. What the next right thing is I don't know.

See? Exactly what I see. The hard part, for me, is to be heard and understood, without coming off as a religious zealot, domestic terrorist, fool, etc.

I know whose air it is.

I consider the left as the same as the Sanhedrin at the time of Christ.

They were doing the Will of God without obeying it.

The same sort of thing with Trump. He is Divinely appointed.
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« Reply #74 on: February 15, 2020, 08:42:54 pm »
See? Exactly what I see. The hard part, for me, is to be heard and understood, without coming off as a religious zealot, domestic terrorist, fool, etc.

I know whose air it is.

I consider the left as the same as the Sanhedrin at the time of Christ.

They were doing the Will of God without obeying it.

The same sort of thing with Trump. He is Divinely appointed.

While there is a distinct command to respect leaders (fathers, priests, prophets, kings) as God raised them up, in no case are you to follow any man against the law of YHWH. Likewise as an American, I will follow no one against the Constitution.

Some pretty evil sh*t has claimed divine right (now there's a nephilim idea)... That does not mean I am to blindly follow it.