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Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« on: February 14, 2020, 11:33:27 AM »
Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases

February 14, 2020 at 9:06 am EST By Taegan Goddard 144 Comments

President Trump tweeted his first response to Attorney General William Barr’s criticism about meddling in criminal cases last night.
Said Trump: “This doesn’t mean that I do not have, as President, the legal right to do so, I do, but I have so far chosen not to!”

Trump’s tweet followed a remarkable interview with ABC News, in which Barr said, “I think it’s time to stop the tweeting about Department of Justice criminal cases,” adding that such statements “about the department, about people in the department, our men and women here, about cases pending here, and about judges before whom we have cases, make it impossible for me to do my job and to assure the courts and the prosecutors and the department that we’re doing our work with integrity.”

https://politicalwire.com/2020/02/14/trump-claims-right-to-interfere-in-criminal-cases/

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 11:40:04 AM »
Goddard's headline misrepresents what Trump and Barr said in their Tweets. Unsurprisingly.
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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2020, 11:40:54 AM »
Here we are.  Haven't even made it to the elections yet and Trump is starting a mess.  People here are commenting on Barr's ulterior motives.  The guy is trying to stay above water.  He is trying to do as the President asks, but the President just keeps tweeting and making it impossible for Barr to do the dirty deeds for him.

If you listened to the Barr interview he said Trump had not asked him to do anything illegal.  But Trump is trying to get Michael Flynn as well as Roger stone lesser or no sentence.

And oh, the spin.  It must have been the jurist.  Even though Roger Stone pleaded the Fifth so as not to incriminate himself.

Trump simply thinks that he can just get all his friends off when they commit crimes.  Probably because if he doesn't they are going to expose something very big.

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 11:44:02 AM »
The increasing hysteria on the left is entertaining, if utterly lacking in any relation to reality.

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 12:01:20 PM »
If you listened to the Barr interview he said Trump had not asked him to do anything illegal. 

Get your damn facts straight @Chosen Daughter

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BARR: And I'm happy to say that, in fact the president has never asked me to do anything in a criminal case.

THOMAS: So just to be clear, did you talk to the President at all about your decision regarding the recommendations?

BARR: The recommendations on this case? Never.

THOMAS: Anybody from the White House call you to try to influence you?

BARR: No. Nope. [crosstalk] have not discussed the Roger Stone case at the White House.

THOMAS: At all?

BARR: At all.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/transcript-attorney-general-bill-barrs-exclusive-interview-abc/story?id=68975178



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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2020, 12:03:48 PM »
Get your damn facts straight.

Why start now?

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2020, 12:23:50 PM »
The media supports a particular side and it’s NOT the republican side. They’re shilling for the democrat team, understand?

Just how much media malpractice does a body have to hear before they finally get they are being played 100%. Sometimes with outright lies but usually with skillfully worded half truths and artful headlines.

So, if you as a republican fail to grasp that, your political opinions and arguments are useless for any rational discussion about Trump.

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2020, 12:27:03 PM »
The media supports a particular side and it’s NOT the republican side. They’re shilling for the democrat team, understand?

Just how much media malpractice does a body have to hear before they finally get they are being played 100%. Sometimes with outright lies but usually with skillfully worded half truths and artful headlines.

So, if you as a republican fail to grasp that, your political opinions and arguments are useless for any rational discussion about Trump.

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2020, 12:42:06 PM »
Here we are.  Haven't even made it to the elections yet and Trump is starting a mess.  People here are commenting on Barr's ulterior motives.  The guy is trying to stay above water.  He is trying to do as the President asks, but the President just keeps tweeting and making it impossible for Barr to do the dirty deeds for him.

If you listened to the Barr interview he said Trump had not asked him to do anything illegal.  But Trump is trying to get Michael Flynn as well as Roger stone lesser or no sentence.

And oh, the spin.  It must have been the jurist.  Even though Roger Stone pleaded the Fifth so as not to incriminate himself.

Trump simply thinks that he can just get all his friends off when they commit crimes.  Probably because if he doesn't they are going to expose something very big.

Ah yes.... facts, truth and reality.... are so damned inconvenient to you and your ilk, aren't they.   Trump hasn't tried to get "all his friends" off, yet still the idiot left bleats.  And... how the hell would you know what Trump thinks?   Assume, much?

But hey..... if you think that facts, truth and reality are inconvenient now.....

just wait until the evening of November 3.    :whistle:
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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #10 on: February 14, 2020, 12:49:49 PM »
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Attack ideas not members, please.

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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #11 on: February 14, 2020, 12:52:24 PM »
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Attack ideas not members, please.

Attacking the ideas that certain members have is ok then.   lol

Good to know.
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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #12 on: February 14, 2020, 01:35:23 PM »
Attacking the ideas that certain members have is ok then.   lol

Good to know.


That should not be news.

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« Reply #13 on: February 14, 2020, 01:50:27 PM »
That should not be news.

It's not.   Just clarifying.    :laugh:
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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #14 on: February 14, 2020, 02:19:28 PM »
Get your damn facts straight @Chosen Daughter

What's the problem?  He said he wasn't asked by the president to get involved in this criminal case.  He's taking responsibility for interfering himself.  But you all are ready to hang him high.  I  don't believe him anyway.  Because Trump gave him major praise for it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2020, 02:41:00 PM »
Here we are.  Haven't even made it to the elections yet and Trump is starting a mess.  People here are commenting on Barr's ulterior motives.  The guy is trying to stay above water.  He is trying to do as the President asks, but the President just keeps tweeting and making it impossible for Barr to do the dirty deeds for him.

If you listened to the Barr interview he said Trump had not asked him to do anything illegal.  But Trump is trying to get Michael Flynn as well as Roger stone lesser or no sentence.

And oh, the spin.  It must have been the jurist.  Even though Roger Stone pleaded the Fifth so as not to incriminate himself.

Trump simply thinks that he can just get all his friends off when they commit crimes.  Probably because if he doesn't they are going to expose something very big.

Yes here we are and the closer we get to the elections the messier things are going to get.  The leftists/globalists/socialists cannot afford to have Trump re-elected.  He is unraveling their corruption and they are firing back any which way that they can. Russian collusion failed. Impeachment failed. All that happened was the left was exposed for their corruption.  Biden & son's corruption goes beyond Ukraine and involves China as well.  That's the real story here -- the Biden's connection to China.  Where's Barr in all this corruption???

What exactly is Barr's job?  Why isn't he doing it?  As AG he should be indicting people left and right; instead he keeps the focus Trump...meanwhile those on the left keep blaming Trump to avert attention from themselves!

What you don't get unfortunately is how deep this corruption runs.  The DOJ is not without corruption and during the Mueller investigation those involved in the corruption were basically investigation themselves.

Barr worked under Bush Sr....at the time I again questioned Trump's selection of yet again another questionable AG. 

Interestingly, Prior to joining the Trump administration, Barr argued that the president has "complete authority to start or stop a law enforcement proceeding....

Here we sit.
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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #16 on: February 14, 2020, 03:25:11 PM »
Yes here we are and the closer we get to the elections the messier things are going to get.  The leftists/globalists/socialists cannot afford to have Trump re-elected.  He is unraveling their corruption and they are firing back any which way that they can. Russian collusion failed. Impeachment failed. All that happened was the left was exposed for their corruption.  Biden & son's corruption goes beyond Ukraine and involves China as well.  That's the real story here -- the Biden's connection to China.  Where's Barr in all this corruption???

What exactly is Barr's job?  Why isn't he doing it?  As AG he should be indicting people left and right; instead he keeps the focus Trump...meanwhile those on the left keep blaming Trump to avert attention from themselves!

What you don't get unfortunately is how deep this corruption runs.  The DOJ is not without corruption and during the Mueller investigation those involved in the corruption were basically investigation themselves.

Barr worked under Bush Sr....at the time I again questioned Trump's selection of yet again another questionable AG. 

Interestingly, Prior to joining the Trump administration, Barr argued that the president has "complete authority to start or stop a law enforcement proceeding....

Here we sit.

It was never a "witch hunt".  It was a continued investigation into Manafort.  He had been under investigation since 2014.  If you are hiring people under Federal investigations and meeting with their Russian contacts you can expect to be spied on.

And although it is partly theory, mine...….the reason the Mueller report couldn't convict or exonerate is because there were people from Obama administration involved with Manafort also.  I think it came to its full conclusion that there is a swamp and they are all involved.


Trump asks why FBI didn't tell him about Paul Manafort investigation

Michael WalshReporter,Yahoo News•June 3, 2018

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-asks-fbi-didnt-tell-paul-manafort-investigation-151936370.html

In 1980, Manafort, Charles Black and Roger Stone (all Ronald Reagan campaign officials) opened a lobbying shop in Washington, D.C. One of their very first clients: Donald Trump, who employed the lobbying firm of Black, Manafort & Stone through the early 1990s.
Plus, both men have mutual close friends, including Barrack and Stone, whom Manafort and Trump have been friends with for decades. Both Manafort and Trump were active in the New Jersey political scene in the 1980s, and later, both men were involved in lobbying Capitol Hill on Indian gaming issues. Since 2006, Manafort has owned a condo in Trump Tower in Manhattan, and around the same time, became involved in the Manhattan real estate scene.

It's certainly possible both men didn't know each other well before 2016, but to say they had "some business in the 1980s" does not capture the many ways Trump and Manafort have been crossing paths for decades.

Timeline
Here is a timeline to help piece together a clearer picture of their connections....

https://www.newsweek.com/how-close-are-trump-and-manafort-they-go-way-way-back-697195

And now the sentences of Manafort's associates are being interfered with on Trumps behalf.  Manafort was in business with Stone.  Trump new exactly who Manafort was.
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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2020, 03:43:59 PM »
What's the problem?  He said he wasn't asked by the president to get involved in this criminal case.

You can't even get this straight from a printed transcript.  Barr did not say "this" criminal case.  He said "a" criminal case, meaning any.

And prevously this is what YOU wrote @Chosen Daughter

If you listened to the Barr interview he said Trump had not asked him to do anything illegal. 

AG Barr NEVER said this .... what you "heard" is your own twisted version of the truth completely changing the intent and meaning of Barr's actual statements.

So I repeat:  next time, get your damn facts straight.








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Re: Trump Claims Right to Interfere In Criminal Cases
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2020, 03:48:32 PM »
But this is what YOU wrote @Chosen Daughter

AG Barr NEVER said this .... what you "heard" is your own twisted version of the truth completely changing the intent and meaning of Barr's actual statements.

So I repeat:  next time, get your damn facts straight.

No, that was an absolutely "perfect" response.  He wasn't asked to get involved in the criminal case i.e, didn't ask Barr to intervene about sentence.  It was "perfect" absolutely "perfect".
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2020, 04:07:56 PM »
No, that was an absolutely "perfect" response.  He wasn't asked to get involved in the criminal case i.e, didn't ask Barr to intervene about sentence.  It was "perfect" absolutely "perfect".

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« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2020, 04:30:22 PM »
It was never a "witch hunt".  It was a continued investigation into Manafort. 

So when you stated you were finished with the your Manafort obssession posts, you were unable tofollow thru and honor that statement.

TDS is obviously a mental condition and obsession in your case.
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« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2020, 04:38:08 PM »
So when you stated you were finished with the your Manafort obssession posts, you were unable tofollow thru and honor that statement.

TDS is obviously a mental condition and obsession in your case.

I guess I was.  Unable.  Didn't realize that Trump and Barr were going to work hard to get their friends out of jail.
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« Reply #22 on: February 14, 2020, 06:12:21 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: February 14, 2020, 07:05:28 PM »
I guess I was.  Unable.  Didn't realize that Trump and Barr were going to work hard to get their friends out of jail.
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« Reply #24 on: February 14, 2020, 07:21:12 PM »
The increasing hysteria on the left is entertaining, if utterly lacking in any relation to reality.

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