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I never said you did.

Just told me I was sick.  happy77

Let it go. There's no need to make another thread about you.
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And THAT is a fact jack!

It's clear enough to those with ears to hear, @Bigun. I guess we should be satisfied with that.

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It's clear enough to those with ears to hear, @Bigun. I guess we should be satisfied with that.

I suppose so @skeeter.  I'm outta here!

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This Judge is a stooge for Mueller's attack squad.

She's the "jurist"  ... cough cough ... who oversaw the Manafort case where Mueller's corrupt prosecutors essentially lied about "witness tampering" and she put him in solitary confinement.  For months on end!   SOLITARY CONFINEMENT for God's sake?  They don't even do that to the worst prisoners at FCI Florence!

For a now proven PHONY "black ledger" in Ukraine that the corruption of Soros and the bootlicking Yovanobitch bought and promoted?

Amy Berman Jackson is a miserable piece of "stuff".   Anything the evil and odious Andrew Weissman and Aaron Zelinsky do is immediately, unequivocally and irrevocably corrupt.   Just ... saying!   And, little old Amy let them run roughshod over Manafort and Stone and American jurisprudence.

Don't be a dupe.  Don't be a useful idjit.  Please?

Oh, nice.  You had to bring up the Russian stooge didn't you?  Poor Manafort.  Not only Trumps Russian connection but many Democrats too.

I don't know any person more deserving of prison than Mannafort.  This article shows his entire career.  He was under FBI investigation since 2014.  Is it any wonder that both he and his business partner Roger Stone are in prison?

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/

https://www.thedailybeast.com/paul-manafort-teamed-up-with-obamas-lawyer-to-help-putin-ally

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/12/mueller-investigation-obama-manafort/

should I go on?  Looks to me like Stone and Manafort deserve the strictest of punishment.  They are what is wrong with D.C.  It isn't the work of the taxpayer.  It is the lobbyist business to get rich.  Make deals with foreign governments.  Play the political game to its fullest conclusion.  The stinkiest swamp in the world.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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From this morning's lead WSJ editorial:

"The President should listen [to William Barr's criticism]  because he needs Mr. Barr more than Mr. Barr needs to be AG. The danger for Mr. Trump is that Mr. Barr will resign because he is tired of having his credibility undermined by a President who can't control his political id no matter the damage it causes. . . . Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy. Time and again his need to dominate the news, to justify even his mistakes, and to rebut every critic gets him into needless trouble.'

I am getting sick and tired of this narcissistic, petulant child in the White House, who refuses to listen to good counsel.   There are millions of Americans who are counting on the GOP to remain in political power to stem the socialist tide.  And it's not going to happen.  Trump is going to blow it all,  and usher in a terrible calamity.   
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From this morning's lead WSJ editorial:

"The President should listen [to William Barr's criticism]  because he needs Mr. Barr more than Mr. Barr needs to be AG. The danger for Mr. Trump is that Mr. Barr will resign because he is tired of having his credibility undermined by a President who can't control his political id no matter the damage it causes. . . . Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy. Time and again his need to dominate the news, to justify even his mistakes, and to rebut every critic gets him into needless trouble.'

I am getting sick and tired of this narcissistic, petulant child in the White House, who refuses to listen to good counsel.   There are millions of Americans who are counting on the GOP to remain in political power to stem the socialist tide.  And it's not going to happen.  Trump is going to blow it all,  and usher in a terrible calamity.

Fer cryin' out loud its as if you leap out of your skin every time the media goes 'boo'.

Looking forward to seeing you posting here on 11/4.
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From this morning's lead WSJ editorial:

"The President should listen [to William Barr's criticism]  because he needs Mr. Barr more than Mr. Barr needs to be AG. The danger for Mr. Trump is that Mr. Barr will resign because he is tired of having his credibility undermined by a President who can't control his political id no matter the damage it causes. . . . Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy. Time and again his need to dominate the news, to justify even his mistakes, and to rebut every critic gets him into needless trouble.'

I am getting sick and tired of this narcissistic, petulant child in the White House, who refuses to listen to good counsel.   There are millions of Americans who are counting on the GOP to remain in political power to stem the socialist tide.  And it's not going to happen.  Trump is going to blow it all,  and usher in a terrible calamity.

Yeah! Right!



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So am I.   The President should be doggone grateful a man with the courage and qualities of Mr. Barr has agreed to serve in his administration.   For over three years now,  wise folks have been urging the President to go easy on the tweets.   To not be his own worst enemy.   To grow as President into the leader of the nation,  not just the rallyboy for his faction.
Maybe the President will finally listen.   But I doubt it.   Peggy Noonan writes this morning that Bloomberg just might pull it off.   She may be right - this President seems determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
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Intuitive.
Trump's Fan Club is deaf, dumb and blind to any observation that doesn't exalt him; so their comments are worthless; yet we need to understand the danger here.
Plain people treat politics w/the contempt it fully deserves and vote their narrow self interest.
But they are hardly oblivious to those who publicly nag, pester and rage.
While such behavior is initially ignored, it is rarely forgotten and later may be decisive in
their voting no.
Since his early days Trump has radiated an aggressive and confrontational persona which easily makes enemies and alienates friends, behavior he is uninterested/incapable of altering. So be it.
Consider: in the fall election our economy may be vibrant yet if Trump has more enemies than friends, the result should be obvious.





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In related news, Hitlery ain't going to Gitmo either Trumpers.

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You are wasting your time @ArneFufkin trying to educate these chowderheads whose minds are made up and won't allow anyone or anything to change them.



So I'm a chowderhead because I question all these claims about corruption, judicial misconduct and such against the judge, the jury forewoman, another juror, the prosecution and anyone else involved in this case not absolutely loyal to Trump. 

I've said this many times.  I worked for lawyers for about 35 years.  Ok, they were attorneys specializing in civil litigation, not criminal, but the two types of cases are similar in that, in order for a legal action to go forward, there has to be sufficient evidence.  I can't sue you for wrecking your car into mine if I have no evidence.  Without evidence, I and my suit would be thrown out.  The same applies in criminal cases.

Now I didn't closely follow the Stone case.  I wasn't in the courtroom during the trial.  But Stone was convicted of two charges -- witness tampering and lying to congress -- right?  Let's take the witness tampering charge.  I would assume that the prosecution presented evidence that Stone or someone on his behalf contacted the witness(es) and attempted to intimidate or otherwise influence testimony.  There should be something like a recorded phone conversation, a letter, email, a social media post -- something that demonstrates the attempt to influence the witness(es).  I cannot see any jury convicting Stone without something to back up the charge of witness tampering.

Now how about all these allegations of corruption.  Let's take the judge, for example.  I heard this morning an allegation that she is on Soros' payroll.  So is there evidence?   Canceled checks?  A video of some bagman handing her a wad of cash?  If there isn't any hard evidence to support that claim, then I cannot accept it as fact.  All I can say is that it's a suspicion. 

Nothing wrong with suspicions -- I've had quite a few about Trump and have said they are just that, suspicions.  The problem comes in when you accept a suspicion as fact with nothing to support that suspicion.  Seems to me the problem here is that not only can we not trust the mainstream media, we also cannot trust various bloggers, social media and conservative websites either.  There was a time when I thought I could trust Breitbart or Gateway Pundit.  Nowadays everyone, it seems, has a bias and an agenda.  "Fair and balanced" was Fox News' motto, but even Fox doesn't hold to it and these days, neither does anyone else.  Truth is what someone says it is, not what it really is.  We don't consider that maybe someone's truth is a lie.

Ok, getting off my soapbox now.  You all can believe what you want to believe.    I just wanted to raise the possibility that all these allegations of wrongdoing against everyone but Stone can be bogus without proof and I'm suggesting before you believe every claim out there, you look for and demand proof that these claims are true. 

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These clowns can't find a crook?
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Fer cryin' out loud its as if you leap out of your skin every time the media goes 'boo'.

Looking forward to seeing you posting here on 11/4.

In this case, the media (the Wall Street Journal) is 100% correct.   The WJS is not Trump's enemy; the editorial is presented as constructive criticism.

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From this morning's lead WSJ editorial:

"The President should listen [to William Barr's criticism]  because he needs Mr. Barr more than Mr. Barr needs to be AG. The danger for Mr. Trump is that Mr. Barr will resign because he is tired of having his credibility undermined by a President who can't control his political id no matter the damage it causes. . . . Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy. Time and again his need to dominate the news, to justify even his mistakes, and to rebut every critic gets him into needless trouble.'

I am getting sick and tired of this narcissistic, petulant child in the White House, who refuses to listen to good counsel.   There are millions of Americans who are counting on the GOP to remain in political power to stem the socialist tide.  And it's not going to happen.  Trump is going to blow it all,  and usher in a terrible calamity.

Well here is something that we agree on.  He can't help himself.  If he did manage to win it is doubtful he could carry his presidency for the full 4 years.  Four more years of shady dealings.  Of this firing and that to cover for his presidential "style".  To have total control and brag about it on twitter.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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A reflection involving accepting advice.
In his war Dispatches to the Roman Senate, Julius Caesar gave an account of his
decision making process before engaging Vercingetorix, King of the Gauls, in battle:
"Gathering my Centurions before me, each in turn, assessed our plan of battle.
Lastly, I spoke that we would re-gather on the morrow to decide."
Now just imagine Trump in the role of Julius Caesar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah! Right!



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Meanwhile Stone goes to jail for up to 9 years for a process crime in a case that went nowhere.

I guess we'll just have to quietly accept today's "justice".

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Meanwhile Stone goes to jail for up to 9 years for a process crime in a case that went nowhere.

I guess we'll just have to quietly accept today's "justice".

Just you wait for the investigation AFTER the investigation AFTER the Durham investigation.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=6NlGXpzrDM7y5gLSgoLgDw&q=McCabe+site:thegatewaypundit.com&oq=McCabe+site:thegatewaypundit.com&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2436.9746..9984...3.0..0.62.1586.35......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j0i131j0i10j0i22i30j33i160.GIUzqL1Rcmg&ved=0ahUKEwic__3TydHnAhVOuVkKHVKBAPwQ4dUDCAc&uact=5

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From this morning's lead WSJ editorial:

"The President should listen [to William Barr's criticism]  because he needs Mr. Barr more than Mr. Barr needs to be AG. The danger for Mr. Trump is that Mr. Barr will resign because he is tired of having his credibility undermined by a President who can't control his political id no matter the damage it causes. . . . Mr. Trump is his own worst enemy. Time and again his need to dominate the news, to justify even his mistakes, and to rebut every critic gets him into needless trouble.'

I am getting sick and tired of this narcissistic, petulant child in the White House, who refuses to listen to good counsel.   There are millions of Americans who are counting on the GOP to remain in political power to stem the socialist tide.  And it's not going to happen.  Trump is going to blow it all,  and usher in a terrible calamity.

Only problem is -- Barr hasn't been doing his job.  Ask yourself what his job is and then tell me, what he has done since he took over as AG?   Same swamp creatures remain ....
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Only problem is -- Barr hasn't been doing his job.  Ask yourself what his job is and then tell me, what he has done since he took over as AG?   Same swamp creatures remain ....

Same swamp creatures remain because Trump is the swamp!

These guys have all been around and around in Washington D.C.

The reason there are problems is because they are all connected.  Manafort was in business with Stone. 

https://grondamorin.com/2017/03/23/roger-stone-paul-manafort-and-donald-trump-go-way-back/

Manafort was under FBI investigation in 2014

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/manafort-investigated-but-not-charged-for-crimes-in-2014-because-obama-cronies-implicated-in-probe/

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was wiretapped under a foreign intelligence warrant in connection with U.S. concerns that he was communicating with Russian operatives who wanted to influence the American election, a former U.S. official familiar with the intelligence confirms to CBS News' Andres Triay.

The warrants were issued before Robert Mueller was appointed as special counsel to take over the investigation from the FBI.
According to CNN, which first reported the Manafort wiretapping, the FBI began the surveillance in 2014, as a result of consulting work done by Washington firms for the pro-Russian party of former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych,

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-manafort-was-wiretapped-by-us-government/

Former Trump Campaign Chair Paul Manafort Has Been Under FBI Surveillance For Years
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Hallie Detrick
September 19, 2017 3:07 AM EST

https://fortune.com/2017/09/19/paul-manafort-fbi-surveillance-donald-trump-russia/

Are you surprised they "spied" on Trumps campaign?  If you run with the swamp then you get what you asked for.

Hard to be critical of Barr.   He has a yuuuuuge job reducing sentences for the swamp.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I defended Trump all through this and through the impeachment, but the guy needs to listen to someone else once in a while. He's really trying my patience. And his little band of sycophants here is really pathetic.

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Only problem is -- Barr hasn't been doing his job.  Ask yourself what his job is and then tell me, what he has done since he took over as AG?   Same swamp creatures remain ....
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Er............Barr determines his agenda per DOJ guidelines, not posters grinding their ax.
Further while Trump ran off at the mouth about "draining the swamp" he regularly
appointed critters like Scaramucci and others to his Cabinet.













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Same swamp creatures remain because Trump is the swamp!

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Meanwhile Stone goes to jail for up to 9 years for a process crime in a case that went nowhere.

I guess we'll just have to quietly accept today's "justice".

Stone is a slime ball, and deserves his fate.   He and Pecker were behind the '16 primary slimes of Cruz et. al.  F HIM!!!
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Stone is a slime ball, and deserves his fate.   He and Pecker were behind the '16 primary slimes of Cruz et. al.  F HIM!!!

Beg to differ. I prefer to live in a country where politically motivated prosecutions/sentences are frowned upon, regardless of how I personally feel about the prosecuted.
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