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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2020, 03:52:04 PM »
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

Well, there's nothing that warms the cockles of my heart more than being seen as "right and probable don't even know it."

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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2020, 06:10:38 PM »
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2020, 06:12:35 PM »
MANY more than most here begin to realize!
Small wonder they tend toward a presumption of guilt there. So often, it seems correct.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2020, 06:27:16 PM »
No what hurts is so-called conservatives caving to lies and even spreading them. In this process their own spreading of lies caused the defeat (by giving credence to the liberal lies) of one of the most conservative candidates in America... and they double down (as you have) to make sure they stay down. Yes you gave a big thumbs up to the "creepy" comment.

So yes, I do take in consideration that in the name of "winning" the process of nominating the best is thrown out the window. Why have steak, when you can open the can of Rino spam and place it on the swamp table.

My candidates don't care for holy monuments to themselves... perhaps that is the problem.


You are right and probable don't even know it, it was the eating of their own (GOP) that caused the last loss to Doug Jones. But it wasn't just the local GOP, it went to the top.

Who was to blame for Roy's loss, some need to look in the mirror because they carried the liberal lie water for the liberals.

A GOP that does not defend good men perhaps no longer holds any sway over me.

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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2020, 06:52:18 PM »
   Roy and Mo are not Senators of AL because Cocaine Mitch hates Conservatives in his house and didn't want them to be, that it is the most important point, here.  There are just some things the Voting Citizens of a Good State just cannot overcome and he is one.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #30 on: February 13, 2020, 07:10:00 PM »
   Roy and Mo are not Senators of AL because Cocaine Mitch hates Conservatives in his house and didn't want them to be, that it is the most important point, here.  There are just some things the Voting Citizens of a Good State just cannot overcome and he is one.

Let us hope Mittens taught Mitchie a lesson. :crossed:
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2020, 08:18:53 PM »
Nancy would be proud of you (wrap up smear). Name one position of Moore's that isn't the most conservative Constitutional correct one in the field. Name one so-called "creepy" thing that is backed by actual proof of it happening? I don't carry water for the enemy if I can help it.

Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... and post your Alabama candidate's position.

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So, you're saying he didn't date a 17 year old when he was in his 30's? And you're also saying he DIDN'T lose to a democrat in what is a deep, deep, deep red state?

Frankly, I don't care what his positions are on the issues...no more than I care what Michael Jackson or Jeffrey Epstein's positions were. He's a perv who's certain to lose again if he were to be nominated...which he won't be.

As for what Nancy wants...well...she wants the Republicans to nominate guys like Roy Moore. Why you want to oblige her and further her Socialist goals is a true mystery.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2020, 08:41:26 PM »
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2020, 08:43:59 PM »
Pick a topic... Red Flag Laws... Abortion ... Gun Rights (2nd Amendment)... Drugs .... Federal seizures ...  10th Amendment ... Illegal Immigration .... .

This may all be true @Sighlass  --- he may be the most conservative man in the state.  But judge Moore has no political base in Alabama.  He lost the primary for the governorship in 2006 and again in 2010. After a stint on the judiciary, he won the runoff primary for the Senate but lost to the seat in the general election.

For conservative ideas to have "teeth" the candidate must also have electability.  And for some reason, Alabamans have been saying "no" to his drive for political office since 2006.  Court: Yes; Political office:  No  :shrug:

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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2020, 08:58:49 PM »
It's an interesting case to discuss, textbook case on politics but I'm sure, I would have voted for him in the general election.

Unless, I was really familiar with someone who said all of this stuff is true. He did not do well in that interview with Hannity I believe.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2020, 10:58:46 PM »
This may all be true @Sighlass  --- he may be the most conservative man in the state.  But judge Moore has no political base in Alabama.  He lost the primary for the governorship in 2006 and again in 2010. After a stint on the judiciary, he won the runoff primary for the Senate but lost to the seat in the general election.

For conservative ideas to have "teeth" the candidate must also have elect-ability.  And for some reason, Alabamans have been saying "no" to his drive for political office since 2006.  Court: Yes; Political office:  No  :shrug:

Hold it, for a man with no base how did he win the two elections before the bombshell lies delivered at the last second. Why did you not mention those elections which he did win? If Mo Brooks (whom I like) lost to Roy, should he not run because he has no elect-ability? Of course not... what you are saying is just not true, Roy was very electable until everyone dumped on him. One expects that kind of behavior from democrats, not from the GOP. You expect true conservatives to point out the obvious, that the claims against Moore were just baseless claims thrown in to shift just enough votes away from God fearing voters to tilt the results. Instead everyone threw Roy under the bus... spread lies like he was banned from a mall, instead of circling the wagon they duck taped him, pushed him out, painted a target on him and invited people to heap more dung on him. Imagine if they did that to Kavanaugh, or Justice Thomas and nobody defended them...  I don't like Trump, but I did defend Kavanaugh (whom I correctly said wasn't a great conservative) for the way they treated him. Why, because it was the right thing to do.... I totally defended Thomas because it was a just his word vs her word thing years out of contention of being legal to prosecute. I have said over and over, if you have a gripe ladies, put it out there as soon as possible, because over time it only become less believable in today's political sphere. How many ladies have now claimed Trump raped them? Do you believe them?

The worse that can remotely be believed about Roy was he did date younger ladies. We don't know how young, but I don't have any trouble believing he might of asked to date a 17y/o at one time. I know I did, at 27 (nearly 28) ask a 17 y/o to go out on a date. I also asked her mother, and I behaved like a gentleman. I have been married to her for close to 30 years now. I must be a pervert and didn't know it.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2020, 11:08:55 PM »
So, you're saying he didn't date a 17 year old when he was in his 30's? ........... He's a perv....
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2020, 02:36:49 AM »
So, you're saying he didn't date a 17 year old when he was in his 30's? And you're also saying he DIDN'T lose to a democrat in what is a deep, deep, deep red state?

Frankly, I don't care what his positions are on the issues...no more than I care what Michael Jackson or Jeffrey Epstein's positions were. He's a perv who's certain to lose again if he were to be nominated...which he won't be.

As for what Nancy wants...well...she wants the Republicans to nominate guys like Roy Moore. Why you want to oblige her and further her Socialist goals is a true mystery.

IIRC, she was 19, not 17; he was 32, fresh from West Point, two tours in the Army, and law school. Those two years (in her age) make a big difference.
Dating a nineteen year-old doesn't make him a perv, it makes you jealous!  :silly: :tongue2:
Besides, dating in those days did not necessarily involve having sex (more like a movie and a malted), and was done with the permission of her parents.
Not the same thing as cruising for some kid at the sock hop.

Did he lose to a Democrat? (Jones)
Yep, after being smeared by Democrats and and the media in the 11th hour and abandoned by Republicans who repeated the lies. (Sex smears, See also: Clarence Thomas Confirmation, Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation)

He won two other elections (Chief Justice, AL Supreme Court, twice), and lost one primary (for Governor), which puts his batting average at .500, electorally.

I am at a loss to see how Roy Moore would further the goals of the Socialists. He is about as solid on the US Constitution as you are going to find, and even got in trouble for upholding the Alabama Constitution's marriage Amendment when he was Chief Justice. I just don't see that making any headway for the Marxists at all.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2020, 02:50:59 AM »
I am at a loss to see how Roy Moore would further the goals of the Socialists. He is about as solid on the US Constitution as you are going to find, and even got in trouble for upholding the Alabama Constitution's marriage Amendment when he was Chief Justice. I just don't see that making any headway for the Marxists at all.

Yep, and Roy's reasoning on the Gay's adopting was sound...

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/no-the-1960s-havent-returned-to-alabama

Even the NY Times reluctantly agreed with Roy Moore....

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/magazine/in-sort-of-defense-of-roy-moore.html


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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2020, 04:39:16 AM »
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...

I'd have a problem with that.  Honestly.

I am a huge proponent of "Love and Marriage" but there is NO DOUBT if I saw you and and a 17 year old girl 11 years under your age I'd intervene.  To your distress and likely beat down.



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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2020, 05:21:41 AM »
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...

So ... she was a JUNIOR in High School?  Eleventh grade?

And, you were 28?

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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2020, 05:58:50 AM »
So ... she was a JUNIOR in High School?  Eleventh grade?

And, you were 28?
Check your math. I had graduated High School and was a freshman in college at 17. I wasn't the only one, either.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2020, 11:08:28 AM »
I started dating my wife when she was 17... I was nearly 28.... where is that line line where "perv" begins? Asking for the wife of course...

The line begins in his 30's. Is that clearly defined enough for you. How do you feel about Doug Hutchinson marrying 16 year old Courtney Stodden...is that alright with you? You see...there is a line that should not be crossed, and while I'm aware conventions were somewhat different 40 years ago (my own parents were 31 and 21 when married) it was not so different that a man in his mid 30's should be dating a 17 year old.  As a father to 3 daughters, I can tell you that is just plain gross.

Notably, you ignore the fact he lost to a Dem in a deeply Red State Senate election...something the Right cannot afford to do. So whilst we can quibble over the societal rights and wrongs of men in their 30's dating teenagers, its not a viable argument to assert that Republican Senatorial nominees should actually have a chance to defeat their Dem opponents. Nearly the ONLY way to lose that seat again, would be to run Roy Moore...so in what way can you argue that such an event would be anything less than Nancy Pelosi's wet dream.

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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2020, 11:26:42 AM »
I'm rooting for Sessions for no other reason than I like the man and I believe he has core values and integrity.  I thought that long before President Trump came along.

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« Reply #44 on: February 14, 2020, 04:01:21 PM »


I am at a loss to see how Roy Moore would further the goals of the Socialists.

I think its rather obvious how....by losing. Again.

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« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2020, 04:36:07 PM »
I think its rather obvious how....by losing. Again.
Actually, I figured now that the bullsh*t accusations have been debunked, exposed for the election dirty tricks they are, that he'd have a much better chance at being elected.

The mud didn't stick, under scrutiny.

Now those who want desperately, for whatever reason to keep spewing that dreck, will, and would consider him to be an inappropriate candidate, but the only shite apparently that stuck stuck to the lenses with which some view him.

His wife, BTW, is 14 years his junior, and considering an Uncle of mine married similarly (in his 40s), it does not seem that unusual to me. They remained married, until my Uncle's death; Moore and his wife remain married as well. So, all the harping about age differences, so long as both are of legal age, seems moot to me.
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2020, 04:45:50 PM »
Me, I'm all for the people of the individual states allowing Washington D C. elites to continue telling them who they can have as their representatives in Washington! /S
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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2020, 05:10:13 PM »
Actually, I figured now that the bullsh*t accusations have been debunked, exposed for the election dirty tricks they are, that he'd have a much better chance at being elected.

The mud didn't stick, under scrutiny.

Now those who want desperately, for whatever reason to keep spewing that dreck, will, and would consider him to be an inappropriate candidate, but the only shite apparently that stuck stuck to the lenses with which some view him.

His wife, BTW, is 14 years his junior, and considering an Uncle of mine married similarly (in his 40s), it does not seem that unusual to me. They remained married, until my Uncle's death; Moore and his wife remain married as well. So, all the harping about age differences, so long as both are of legal age, seems moot to me.

Either he dated a 17 year old when in his 30's or he didn't...evidence seems clear that he did. So its clearly NOT debunked. That disqualifies him in my book...you and a few others may think that's OK, but enough voters to make him lose will not be so "cool" with that kind of pervy behavior. There are other strong conservatives like Sessions without that baggage who will win back that seat so its moronic even to consider Moore.

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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2020, 05:37:18 PM »
I'd have a problem with that.  Honestly.


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Re: Sessions in close race for Alabama GOP Senate nomination: poll
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2020, 05:45:05 PM »
Either he dated a 17 year old when in his 30's or he didn't...evidence seems clear that he did. So its clearly NOT debunked. That disqualifies him in my book...you and a few others may think that's OK, but enough voters to make him lose will not be so "cool" with that kind of pervy behavior. There are other strong conservatives like Sessions without that baggage who will win back that seat so its moronic even to consider Moore.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you don't live in Alabama, then what you or I want means precisely dick.
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