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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #100 on: February 08, 2020, 05:43:37 pm »
Conservatives.... like who, for instance?   Can you name a half dozen?  Or even a few?

Not without revealing who I am. There aren't that many folks around here with regional reach, and anybody inside regional politics around here could probably already make a pretty educated guess.

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #101 on: February 08, 2020, 05:51:05 pm »
Not without revealing who I am. There aren't that many folks around here with regional reach, and anybody inside regional politics around here could probably already make a pretty educated guess.

So.... let me get this straight.   You can't name even a 'few' conservatives that you have in mind without revealing who you are?   Sorry, but....

that sounds like BS (and an excuse).   Color me skeptical.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #102 on: February 08, 2020, 06:02:01 pm »
Not without revealing who I am. There aren't that many folks around here with regional reach, and anybody inside regional politics around here could probably already make a pretty educated guess.

ROFL!!!   smh.....
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #103 on: February 08, 2020, 06:03:02 pm »
So.... let me get this straight.   You can't name even a 'few' conservatives that you have in mind without revealing who you are?   Sorry, but....

that sounds like BS (and an excuse).   Color me skeptical.

Color yourself however you'd like. I value my privacy. You can count on one hand how many Conservative players there are working out of NW MT in a regional capacity.

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #104 on: February 08, 2020, 06:16:05 pm »
Perhaps if you knew something about Donald Trump beyond the headlines you are drawn to like a moth to a flame, you'd be able to let go of some of the irrational hatred you feel for him.


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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #105 on: February 08, 2020, 06:39:23 pm »
Well no, it ain't @sneakypete


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That's laughable coming from a Tea Party supporter.

If you want to have an effect,you have to operate in the real world,not the imaginary world. You might as well be supporting the Bull Moose Party.
 
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #106 on: February 08, 2020, 06:42:09 pm »
Which is another reason why I don't trust Mitch (da Bitch).

I don't trust him either, although I'm pretty happy about the Judges.  He submitted a half dozen or so to the SJC the day the Senate acquitted Trump.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #107 on: February 08, 2020, 06:46:39 pm »
Have wondered where the Tea Party went.   /s

Have dozens of photos I shot at the very first TEA Party gathering in D.C..   And the 2nd.

Also, Sarah Palin with Glenn Beck at the Lincoln Memorial and Reflecting Pool one August 28th.

Taxed Enough Already was the theme, but eventually the 'Principled' Conservatives hijacked the Movement.


....into obscurity.


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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #108 on: February 08, 2020, 06:58:22 pm »
@roamer_1

That's laughable coming from a Tea Party supporter.

If you want to have an effect,you have to operate in the real world,not the imaginary world. You might as well be supporting the Bull Moose Party.

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That is the entire purpose of the TEA party - Placing Conservatives, from the ground up. That is the focus. There is no point in throwing money and influence away at the national level. National RNC is in moderate hands, who have the game by the throat. That's why the focus is on state houses and county governments - on the up and coming. 

That's why the Tea Party rolled over so many governorships and state houses, and has far less to do with national races.

I was a part of that, and I still am, though not to the measure I was then... and that is real as hell.

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #109 on: February 08, 2020, 07:02:50 pm »
Is the reason she hates the message or the messenger (or both)?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1225253909666492417
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #110 on: February 08, 2020, 07:06:35 pm »
Oh please - have you ever READ any of my posts here??? It should be blindingly obvious that no one wants Trump to continue to succeed more than I do. With what he's accomplished he should have Reagan-like approval numbers and the party should be riding high. Why isn't that what's happening?
I happen to have read what you wrote.

And you said he always knee-jerks.

Why write drivel if you don't believe it then?
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« Reply #111 on: February 08, 2020, 07:37:29 pm »
Is the reason she hates the message or the messenger (or both)?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1225253909666492417
Both.... I would bet that pelosi regrets tearing up that speech...

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #112 on: February 08, 2020, 07:50:24 pm »
Canadian David Frum (Bush 43) is also a whackadoo.  rrthree

You're right.......... and with delusions of grandeur.

Strange fellow!
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #113 on: February 08, 2020, 08:27:33 pm »
I happen to have read what you wrote.

And you said he always knee-jerks.

Why write drivel if you don't believe it then?

I will say it this way - his tweetstorms generally come across to me as knee-jerk reactions that do more harm than good, both to him and the party. Feel free to disagree, it's just my opinion.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #114 on: February 08, 2020, 08:35:48 pm »
I will say it this way - his tweetstorms generally come across to me as knee-jerk reactions that do more harm than good, both to him and the party. Feel free to disagree, it's just my opinion.
Ok, I now understand.

I happen to think some tweets go to the degree you say; however, overall I support him tweeting primarily as it is the mechanism to bypass the media.

Bush allowed the MSM to brand him as they filtered everything he said rather than directly addressing the people like Trump does with his tweets and very effectively of course during SOTU.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #115 on: February 08, 2020, 09:25:38 pm »
Ok, I now understand.

I happen to think some tweets go to the degree you say; however, overall I support him tweeting primarily as it is the mechanism to bypass the media.

Bush allowed the MSM to brand him as they filtered everything he said rather than directly addressing the people like Trump does with his tweets and very effectively of course during SOTU.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #116 on: February 09, 2020, 11:00:52 am »
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« Reply #117 on: February 09, 2020, 01:08:27 pm »
I'd hazard a guess that it's the 90% negative press he receives.

Reagan's negative press wasn't much different.  But his poll numbers reflected the public's respect for his policies.  But with Trump there's a disconnect.   Trump needs to grow up.  His SOTU was an excellent start,  and echoed the classic Reagan themes.   But Musiclady's right -  Reagan's voice was authentic. 
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« Reply #118 on: February 09, 2020, 01:19:04 pm »
Reagan's negative press wasn't much different.  But his poll numbers reflected the public's respect for his policies.  But with Trump there's a disconnect.   Trump needs to grow up.  His SOTU was an excellent start,  and echoed the classic Reagan themes.   But Musiclady's right -  Reagan's voice was authentic.
Yea, well Reagan had 50 years of practice before he was elected also...

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #119 on: February 09, 2020, 01:36:08 pm »
Yea, well Reagan had 50 years of practice before he was elected also...

And he actually believed what he said, had a great sense of humor, was a mature human being, understood the English language, could and did read, could write.......

IOW, there wasn’t a single similarity between them except that the media excoriated them both and blamed them for everything that was wrong in the world.

Oh yeah........ and Reagan didn’t have a Fox News that worshipped the ground he walked on.

He stood alone and still managed to behave with honor.

There ain’t no comparison.
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« Reply #120 on: February 09, 2020, 01:49:19 pm »
And he actually believed what he said, had a great sense of humor, was a mature human being, understood the English language, could and did read, could write.......

IOW, there wasn’t a single similarity between them except that the media excoriated them both and blamed them for everything that was wrong in the world.

Oh yeah........ and Reagan didn’t have a Fox News that worshipped the ground he walked on.

He stood alone and still managed to behave with honor.

There ain’t no comparison.
Reagan did not have Fox but he did not have to deal with the bulk of the media in the lefts pocket either so his only real competitor was Tip and that was a tame battle compared to the 24 hours a day onslaught that Trump is having to deal with.

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« Reply #121 on: February 09, 2020, 02:15:55 pm »
Reagan did not have Fox but he did not have to deal with the bulk of the media in the lefts pocket either so his only real competitor was Tip and that was a tame battle compared to the 24 hours a day onslaught that Trump is having to deal with.

Exactly. Not sure why republican critics of Trump here at TBR fail to see that the toxic media environment today is orders of magnitude higher than that which Reagan faced and has had a markedly negative impact on Trump’s approval. And what’s puzzling is that they see no cause and effect relationship with this. They instead conclude Trump is to blame!

No, he’s not. Trump didn’t ask for this. It was thrust upon him in a coordinated, democrat operatives/media-wide conspiracy to oust the newly elected president. Trump’s fault? I think not.

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« Reply #122 on: February 09, 2020, 02:19:19 pm »

Reagan's negative press wasn't much different.  But his poll numbers reflected the public's respect for his policies.  But with Trump there's a disconnect.   Trump needs to grow up.  His SOTU was an excellent start,  and echoed the classic Reagan themes.   But Musiclady's right -  Reagan's voice was authentic.


Come on, @Jazzhead ...that's just crazy talk.

There were no cell phones, let alone 'smart' phones....the Commodore 64 was cutting edge.

Ronald Reagan got a tongue-bath compared to Donald Trump.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #123 on: February 09, 2020, 02:26:19 pm »
Exactly. Not sure why republican critics of Trump here at TBR fail to see that the toxic media environment today is orders of magnitude higher than that which Reagan faced and has had a markedly negative impact on Trump’s approval. And what’s puzzling is that they see no cause and effect relationship with this. They instead conclude Trump is to blame!

No, he’s not. Trump didn’t ask for this. It was thrust upon him in a coordinated, democrat operatives/media-wide conspiracy to oust the newly elected president. Trump’s fault? I think not.
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« Reply #124 on: February 09, 2020, 02:26:49 pm »
Reagan did not have Fox but he did not have to deal with the bulk of the media in the lefts pocket either so his only real competitor was Tip and that was a tame battle compared to the 24 hours a day onslaught that Trump is having to deal with.

And the 24 hour onslaught that he and his fans are giving back.

No matter how you cut it, there’s no comparison between the behavior of the two.

If Reagan had had to deal with the 24 hour onslaught, he would have dealt with it the same way he dealt with the 100% hostile press in the 80’s (with no conservative media to back him up)....

As an intelligent, articulate, educated, conservative adult.
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