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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #175 on: February 09, 2020, 05:48:34 pm »
I'm familiar with your arguments. I simply disagree.

Time will surely tell. I had these same arguments with the Bushies. I know how it turns out.

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« Reply #176 on: February 09, 2020, 05:49:13 pm »
And we all do so agreeably, generally.  That's the beauty of TBR!  I may not agree with @roamer_1 about some things, but I think we're both welcome to have adult beverages on each others' porches.

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« Reply #177 on: February 09, 2020, 06:08:00 pm »
Dubya always frustrated me because he never used the Bully Pulpit.  He never fought back in ways that were afforded him.
Yep. Unfortunately, that only encouraged the opposition.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #178 on: February 09, 2020, 06:09:31 pm »
Never get in a poo-throwing fight with a bunch of monkeys.
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They're good at it!
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #179 on: February 09, 2020, 06:12:01 pm »
Yep. Nothing but a poo-throwing extravaganza. I don't see why y'all think it so great. Ya think you're winning, but really you're just getting covered in liberal sh*t.  **nononono*

Makes zero sense to me.
Though this be madness, methinks here's method in it.
When the Liberals run out of sh*t, there won't be anything left but a pile of clothes....
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #180 on: February 09, 2020, 06:15:23 pm »
Though this be madness, methinks here's method in it.
When the Liberals run out of sh*t, there won't be anything left but a pile of clothes....

The problem with your theory is that every monkey and liberal contains within them a dimensional gate to the sh*t universe. They will never run out of sh*t.

At that point, it is all about attrition.

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« Reply #181 on: February 09, 2020, 06:30:39 pm »
And we all do so agreeably, generally.  That's the beauty of TBR!  I may not agree with @roamer_1 about some things, but I think we're both welcome to have adult beverages on each others' porches.

I'm between porches right now, but ya'll be welcome once I get one.

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #182 on: February 09, 2020, 06:30:49 pm »
I realize most republican congressmen are in the same bucket as the rats, But today we're getting border & inland enforcement including rulings that should stand indefinitely, we're getting decent judges, we're getting better trade deals than we would've with Bush, Clinton, or any other 2016 candidate save maybe Cruz.

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I'm a huge Cruz fan, but I don't think he would have been able to do what Trump did with USMCA, China, Japan, and South Korea on trade.

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #183 on: February 09, 2020, 06:31:45 pm »
Time will surely tell. I had these same arguments with the Bushies. I know how it turns out.

I would've agreed with you 100% regarding the Bushies. When someone better than Trump comes along I'll be there.

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« Reply #184 on: February 09, 2020, 06:33:51 pm »
The problem with your theory is that every monkey and liberal contains within them a dimensional gate to the sh*t universe. They will never run out of sh*t.

At that point, it is all about attrition.

Is that why they use that orifice as a wormhole?  888mouth
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #185 on: February 09, 2020, 06:37:54 pm »
Is that why they use that orifice as a wormhole?  888mouth

Hee hee hee... I see what you did there...  :beer:

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« Reply #186 on: February 09, 2020, 06:40:39 pm »
I would not say Reagan "had it easy," my point would be the times are not comparable.

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He had it easy compared to Trump. The left were still easing into power,and more polite back then.
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« Reply #187 on: February 09, 2020, 06:41:39 pm »
The same "principled conservatives" who insist on style over substance whine the loudest that their conservative political brand is dying on the vine.  If only connecting dots was in their wheelhouse.....  888blackhat

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #188 on: February 09, 2020, 06:43:52 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

He had it easy compared to Trump. The left were still easing into power,and more polite back then.

I recall Reagan coming into the House during SOUs. Rats were climbing over each other to be seen shaking his hand. Of course they then would turn around and ream him out with legislation and couldn't wait to hog tie him in scandal.

But the difference between then and now in the treatment of POTUS is clear considering the most recent SOU.

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« Reply #189 on: February 09, 2020, 06:44:09 pm »
Crossfire was one-on-one.

I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out that as much as the press disliked Reagan, today's press is demonstrably worse. It seems the fragmentation of the media is responsible.

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I used to watch Cross Fire,just to see the "deer in the headlights look" on Cornell West's face when Buckley asked his opinion. That was funny,I don't care who you are!
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #190 on: February 09, 2020, 06:44:55 pm »
Dubya always frustrated me because he never used the Bully Pulpit.  He never fought back in ways that were afforded him.

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It wouldn't have been ladylike. 
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« Reply #191 on: February 09, 2020, 06:46:23 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

I used to watch Cross Fire,just to see the "deer in the headlights look" on Cornell West's face when Buckley asked his opinion. That was funny,I don't care who you are!

I enjoyed Michael Kinsley's maniacal smile and bugging eyes when he got really p*ssed.

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« Reply #192 on: February 09, 2020, 06:48:16 pm »
Same for me.  Donald Trump the candidate confounded me like no other.  After the first debate, I remember the otherwise brilliant and insightful Charles Krauthammer remarking it was the end of Trump experiment.  Instead, he rose in the polls.  The whole run-up to his nomination was so un-Presidential, so unstatesman-like, it truly baffled me.  The general campaign was more of the same and it tested me.  The toxic debates between pro and never made it worse.  For me, at least.

But, given the alternative(s), I voted for him.  I did.

He continues to drive me nuts with his style, his rhetoric, and his total lack of a filter.  Despite that, it is working and it is driving my political opposites crazy.  I will let the Almighty judge whether he is worthy or not.  Just as He will for any of us.  But in the meantime...

I will vote for President Trump again.

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #193 on: February 09, 2020, 06:50:27 pm »
@Cyber Liberty

I used to watch Cross Fire,just to see the "deer in the headlights look" on Cornell West's face when Buckley asked his opinion. That was funny,I don't care who you are!

Did Buckley do "Crossfire?"  I know he was on "Firing Line" on PBS.  I was a fan of his, back when he was editor of NR.  "Call me a crypto-Nazi one more time and I'll break your face."
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #194 on: February 09, 2020, 06:52:25 pm »
Did Buckley do "Crossfire?"  I know he was on "Firing Line" on PBS.  I was a fan of his, back when he was editor of NR.  "Call me a crypto-Nazi one more time and I'll break your face."

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I plead chemo brain. You are probably right. It's been a while since Buckley was on the air.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #195 on: February 09, 2020, 08:11:58 pm »
NEVER vote for politicians; it only encourages them.

That’s why for me it’s Trump 2020, and forever.

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« Reply #196 on: February 09, 2020, 10:01:01 pm »
Same for me.  Donald Trump the candidate confounded me like no other.  After the first debate, I remember the otherwise brilliant and insightful Charles Krauthammer remarking it was the end of Trump experiment.  Instead, he rose in the polls.  The whole run-up to his nomination was so un-Presidential, so unstatesman-like, it truly baffled me.  The general campaign was more of the same and it tested me.  The toxic debates between pro and never made it worse.  For me, at least.

But, given the alternative(s), I voted for him.  I did.

He continues to drive me nuts with his style, his rhetoric, and his total lack of a filter.  Despite that, it is working and it is driving my political opposites crazy.  I will let the Almighty judge whether he is worthy or not.  Just as He will for any of us.  But in the meantime...

I will vote for President Trump again.
I did not vote for him in primaries as native son Ted Cruz was still available to pull the lever on.

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« Reply #197 on: February 09, 2020, 10:20:21 pm »
Despite being accused of being a NT, I backed Trump from the get-go. I didn't like or dislike the guy (and I still don't), it just seemed clear to me that he was the only one who had even a slim chance of beating Clinton. When he won it was like winning the lottery - even if he didn't accomplish anything, saving me from a Clinton nightmare was more than enough to earn my undying gratitude.

When I'm critical of him now, it's only because I desperately want him to win again but fear he's not going about it as well as he could.
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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #198 on: February 09, 2020, 10:50:31 pm »
I would not say Reagan "had it easy," my point would be the times are not comparable.

Let's talk about "the times," shall we??

Are we, as Conservatives, supposed to buckle to the changing times?  Are we not, indeed, if we are true to our values, supposed to make an effort to return to a time when there was more genuine patriotism, when there was a more civil society, when God was still permitted inside schools, when only men and women could marry each other, when babies weren't being slaughtered until and after the day they were born, when 4 year old children didn't use as foul a language as longshoremen???  And a whole slew of other things that have changed with "the times," but have harmed this culture and this country??

My answer to these are different times so our behavior has to be different is a resounding NO IT DOESN'T!!

When we buckle as we have done with Trump, we are saying that the times rule us rather than that we have power to turn the ship around and make things right again.

What Reagan stood for is still what works.  It works against rampant socialism, and it works against cultural rot.

Giving in by saying "the times are different" is just that........ giving in.

And I, for one, don't believe that is ever the right thing to do........ and I have been shocked to realize how many who claim to be Conservative are so quick to give in and have "us" become no different that "them."

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Re: The Real Reason For Nancy's Anger
« Reply #199 on: February 09, 2020, 10:53:06 pm »
NEVER vote for politicians; it only encourages them.

That’s why for me it’s Trump 2020, and forever.

 happy77

The problem with your analysis is that Trump IS a politician.

Thinking he is anything else is denial of reality.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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