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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #75 on: January 23, 2020, 10:18:14 pm »
Well, now.

Since a few of us (myself included) are into quoting, now, I'd like to share a favourite of mine, from Samuel Johnson about Edmund Burke: He chose his side like a fanatic and defended it like a gentleman.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2020, 10:32:07 pm »
Have you any idea, any idea whatsoever, of the scope of the battle we are in ... right at this very moment?

To be concerned with demeanor is at its best and its worst:  Vacuous.

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Not a single one of them have the first clue,and they are too busy patting themselves on the back because they think they are being "moral",they don't have the time OR the ability to learn.

They are dogmatic moralists. If they can't have America THEIR way,they would just as soon see it disappear into the dust bins of history.
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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #77 on: January 23, 2020, 10:33:40 pm »
(B)eing indecorous, rude, or abrasive is not sufficient grounds to try to remove a duly elected President.
Perhaps not, but abuse of power, corrupt conduct, and perfidy (acts of deceit, disloyalty, untrustworthiness, if you're scoring at home) certainly are. (Said whom? Said the Founding Fathers, to name a few.)

Many of the president’s defenders are attempting to make categorical defenses of the president’s conduct. This is understandable. If one can argue that his actions simply don’t fit in the category of conduct that the founders intended to be subject to impeachment, then one doesn’t have to defend the actions themselves or even seriously ponder the gravity of the president’s wrongs. This is a tactic that good defense attorneys use, and the president is surrounded by good defense attorneys.

But the jury doesn’t have to buy it, and the jury shouldn’t buy it. Donald Trump conducted diplomacy for personal gain—and not for public benefit. That’s corrupt conduct. That’s perfidy. And I tend to believe that James Madison would agree.


---David French, in "James Madison Disagrees with The Wall Street Journal," The Dispatch.


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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2020, 10:37:53 pm »
It's the whole dumbing down of America across the board. Every cuss word in the dictionary is said on TV with regularity. It is nothing anymore. There are dildo and lingerie commercials all over television today. It has become normal to see a woman in bra and panties on a commercial saying, 'Do you like my new underwear.' This is something I could never imagine as a child. All of this stuff was sternly forbidden. But not anymore. I suspect that in 10 years from now ABC/CBS/NBC will become what Cinemax was 10 years ago.

The point I am struggling to make is that the level of Presidential behavior has dipped so low that simply not getting BJs under the Presidential Desk from a 20 year old intern is now considered Presidential behavior. If one does not take calls from foreign leaders when you are drunk or stoned out of your mind, as was reported with Obama, that is now Presidential behavior. In that sense, Trump passes the test. He no longer needs to wear a top-hat and tail and speak in somber stentorian staccato cadence. Those days have passed.

Like everything else in society, Presidential behavior is an undefined moving target. Twitter Trump is the exact version of Presidential behavior for 2020. He is the embodiment of modern Presidential behavior, minus the top-hat.
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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #79 on: January 23, 2020, 10:38:32 pm »
Truth!?!?  That's flat-out delusional.  Nothing could possibly have taken the steam out of the Democrats' desire to impeach, which they stated long before the phone call with Ukraine.  That was simply the excuse to impeach.  Had Trump "apologised" for the phone call, the Democrats would have shouted with glee and used his admission of guilt as complete justification for impeachment.

 

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They know that,and don't care. What they care about is we have a president that dumped wives to marry newer models,and that had sex with women who weren't his wife. On top of that,despite the fact that he goes to church,he doesn't play their "thump the Bible" game like Bubba did.

He is independent and truly doesn't give a squat what they or anyone else thinks,and he refuses to play their little reindeer games of lies,deceit,and backstabbing.

I think most could accept him if he were willing to "play the game",but he just doesn't care what they think,and sees no reason to pretend. This drives them even nuttier.

If given a chance,I am convinced most of them would swap Bubba for Trump as President today if they could. Trump just doesn't kiss their asses,and Bubba will tell them all their favorite lies to make them feel good about themselves.
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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2020, 10:43:54 pm »
Yep. And for his upending of globalists’ utopian dreams of a one-world government, I am eternally grateful to President Donald J. Trump. Trump has shown he is a political pioneer, in that his actions will inspire future political patriots to bring America back from the brink of socialist decay.

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BUT.....BUT...BUT..,he has sometimes had sex with young women he wasn't married to ! The HORRORS! He should be impeached and put in prison for life for such grievous sins!

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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #81 on: January 24, 2020, 04:24:21 am »
Donald Trump conducted diplomacy for personal gain—and not for public benefit.

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What personal gain?
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Re: Our Nation Is Paying for Trump’s Refusal to Be Presidential
« Reply #82 on: January 24, 2020, 04:31:22 am »
Donald Trump conducted diplomacy for personal gain—and not for public benefit. That’s corrupt conduct. That’s perfidy.[/i]

---David French, in "James Madison Disagrees with The Wall Street Journal," The Dispatch.[/left-indent]

It's also an opinion. A incorrect one, IMO.

Uncovering a racket where an elected US official, charged with acting in this nation's interests, was instead using one of the most corrupt countries on the planet as his family's piggybank would be very much in America's interest. ESPECIALLY if the SOB was currently running for president.
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