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Trump voters motivated by racism may be violating the Constitution. Can they be stopped?
« on: January 17, 2020, 04:01:03 pm »
Noah Berlatsky  Trump voters motivated by racism may be violating the Constitution. Can they be stopped?
Republicans and Democrats alike have been unwilling to reprimand voters or to hold them accountable. But racist voting isn't an accident.

Jan. 17, 2020, 3:30 AM CST
By Noah Berlatsky

If the Trump era has taught us anything, it's that large numbers of white people in the United States are motivated at least in part by racism in the voting booth. Donald Trump ran an openly racist campaign for president, calling Mexicans rapists and criminals, regularly retweeting white supremacists and at least initially balking at repudiating former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. Trump made it clear in his campaign that "Make America Great Again" meant that America was greater when white people's power was more sweeping and more secure. White voters approved of that message by a whopping 58 percent to 37 percent.

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Re: Trump voters motivated by racism may be violating the Constitution. Can they be stopped?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2020, 04:03:29 pm »
Prove it.   :tongue2:
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2020, 04:09:11 pm »
This guy got paid for this piece of garbage.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2020, 04:14:39 pm »
Now see.... this is the kind of BS and blatant lies coming from the despicable idiot left that ticks me off.   Trump didn't call Mexicans rapists.   He pointed out the glaring truth... that there were rapists, drug dealers, gang members and various other criminals and crooks flooding across our southern border as illegals.   That they were flooding across from Mexico did not mean that he called Mexicans rapists.  Especially since most of the illegals weren't even "from" Mexico.  But the ever-lying left can't get next to the truth....ever.   And even if they could...

they wouldn't.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2020, 04:16:34 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 17, 2020, 04:14:39 pm
Now see.... this is the kind of BS and blatant lies coming from the despicable idiot left that ticks me off.   Trump didn't call Mexicans rapists.   He pointed out the glaring truth... that there were rapists, drug dealers, gang members and various other criminals and crooks flooding across our southern border as illegals.   That they were flooding across from Mexico did not mean that he called Mexicans rapists.  Especially since most of the illegals weren't even "from" Mexico.  But the ever-lying left can't get next to the truth....ever.   And even if they could...

they wouldn't.

They know it. The left now trades almost exclusively in lies. When was the last time you heard the DC rats propose a serious policy initiative?

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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2020, 04:50:29 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on January 17, 2020, 04:16:34 pm
They know it. The left now trades almost exclusively in lies. When was the last time you heard the DC rats propose a serious policy initiative?

The last "serious" policy initiative they put forth was just a scheme to nationalize America's healthcare... against the will of most Americans, mind you.... by destroying the current healthcare system and mandating the purchase of health insurance .... resulting in having a firm grip on Americans' short hairs via their health insurance and the IRS if they failed to get or buy health insurance.  With the totalitarian left, it's always all about control.  And that ahole Roberts went right along with it all.   They should all be hung for their deeds, IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 05:37:03 pm »
Donald Trump ran an openly racist campaign for president, calling Mexicans rapists and criminals,

False statement. Trump said there were rapists and criminals among those crossing US borders illegally.

... regularly retweeting white supremacists ...

Name names and provide evidence, NBSC Skews liar.

... and at least initially balking at repudiating former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke. ...

False statement. https://www.mediaite.com/tv/suckers-watch-donald-trump-repudiate-david-duke-endorsement-six-months-ago/ .

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You see, not only had Trump already tersely disavowed Duke’s endorsement last Friday, it turns out he had this entire conversation six months ago (note the article date stamp and go back 6 months). Like, exactly the same:

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Trump made it clear in his campaign that "Make America Great Again" meant that America was greater when white people's power was more sweeping and more secure.

Really? Is that why black unemployment is at a historic low? Because "white power", NBSC Skews liar?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2020, 04:23:31 pm by PeteS in CA »
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Re: Trump voters motivated by racism may be violating the Constitution. Can they be stopped?
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2020, 06:14:44 pm »
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If the Trump era has taught us anything, it's that large numbers of white people in the United States are motivated at least in part by racism in the voting booth.

His fundamental assumption lacks evidence.

Now explain Obama getting elected, and the demographics of that vote....

> crickets <

Seems the writer is the person preoccupied with race. How tedious.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2020, 06:18:15 pm »
Where is the part about voters violating the Constitution?
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Re: Trump voters motivated by racism may be violating the Constitution. Can they be stopped?
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2020, 06:19:01 pm »
So when did you stop beating your wife?

Jesus walked on water. Jesus can't swim.

Someone's mental development stopped at jr. high.
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Re: Trump voters motivated by racism may be violating the Constitution. Can they be stopped?
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2020, 06:50:16 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 17, 2020, 06:18:15 pm
Where is the part about voters violating the Constitution?

LOL!  The author completely misses making the case suggested in the headline.

This idea of curtailing Constitutional rights is not new.  The Leftists have been claiming for years the 1st Amendment does not apply to "bigots."
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2020, 05:13:50 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on January 17, 2020, 04:14:39 pm
Now see.... this is the kind of BS and blatant lies coming from the despicable idiot left that ticks me off.   Trump didn't call Mexicans rapists.   He pointed out the glaring truth... that there were rapists, drug dealers, gang members and various other criminals and crooks flooding across our southern border as illegals.   That they were flooding across from Mexico did not mean that he called Mexicans rapists.  Especially since most of the illegals weren't even "from" Mexico.  But the ever-lying left can't get next to the truth....ever.   And even if they could...

they wouldn't.
It doesn't matter what Trump said or didn't say.  If you don't support the progressive agenda, you're going to be called a racist.
Even if you didn't do anything racist, they will call you one anyway.
The only way to fight back is to fight back. Accuse idiots like Berlatsky of being anti-American stooges.
Never try to prove that you're not whatever leftists accuse you of. Fight back and tell them to stuff it.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2020, 06:11:11 am »
Quote from: goatprairie on January 18, 2020, 05:13:50 am
It doesn't matter what Trump said or didn't say.  If you don't support the progressive agenda, you're going to be called a racist.
Even if you didn't do anything racist, they will call you one anyway.
The only way to fight back is to fight back. Accuse idiots like Berlatsky of being anti-American stooges.
Never try to prove that you're not whatever leftists accuse you of. Fight back and tell them to stuff it.
The presumption of racism, based on race, makes the author a racist.

Q.E.D.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2020, 06:53:09 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 17, 2020, 04:09:11 pm
This guy got paid for this piece of garbage.

@skeeter

That guy IS a piece of garbage.
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« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2020, 09:36:22 am »
Quote from: sneakypete on January 18, 2020, 06:53:09 am
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That guy IS a racist piece of garbage.
Ya left something out.
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« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2020, 04:28:38 pm »
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If the Trump era has taught us anything, it's that large numbers of white people in the United States are motivated at least in part by racism in the voting booth.

Really? Why did Ben Carson get so many primary votes? Why did Marco Rubio get so many primary votes? Why did Ted Cruz get so many primary votes (including mine)? Why did Alan Keyes get so many primary votes (including mine, twice)? Remind me ...... who drove Herman Cain out of the 2012 R primaries?
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2020, 04:44:14 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on January 19, 2020, 04:28:38 pm
Really? Why did Ben Carson get so many primary votes? Why did Marco Rubio get so many primary votes? Why did Ted Cruz get so many primary votes (including mine)? Why did Alan Keyes get so many primary votes (including mine, twice)? Remind me ...... who drove Herman Cain out of the 2012 R primaries?
Again, it doesn't matter what Republicans did or didn't do.  Unless they support the "progressive" agenda, i.e. massive amounts of taxpayer cash spent on worthless liberal feel-good programs, they will be labeled as racists.
If any current white Dem pols do not support the "progressive" agenda, they will be called racists as well.
Slick Willy was outraged at being called a racist by some black pols and talking heads when Hillary ran for president in 2008 running against Obama.
What was Hillary's sin? She was running against a black pol, ergo, she was a racist.
Her agenda was virtually the same as Obama's, but when going head to head in some primaries Obama got about 90% of the black vote.
So it really wouldn't matter if Trump and Pence resigned, and the next two Republican president and vice-president candidates were black. If Republican pols don't support the "progressive" agenda, they will be called racists.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2020, 05:50:26 pm »
Republicans are the least racist people I know.   You want to see a racist follow you typical tolerant Liberal around, then you will see the new face of racism in America.  True story.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2020, 05:51:19 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 19, 2020, 05:50:26 pm
Republicans are the least racist people I know.   You want to see a racist follow you typical tolerant Liberal around, then you will see the new face of racism in America.  True story.
Only if they leave their bubble. Bonfire of the Vanities...
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2020, 06:00:55 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 19, 2020, 09:36:22 am
Ya left something out.

@Smokin Joe

The left wore that "yousa racist!" crap out with me years ago. It is their knee-jerk reaction to ANYTHING you say that is critical about anybody that isn't white no matter what they have done and said,that it has now became meaningless to me. I KNOW I am not racists,and I don't have to prove it to anybody BUT me.

The truth is I think they used it to the point where it has backfired on them,and calling anybody a racist anymore has no real meaning.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2020, 06:02:02 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on January 19, 2020, 04:28:38 pm
Really? Why did Ben Carson get so many primary votes? Why did Marco Rubio get so many primary votes? Why did Ted Cruz get so many primary votes (including mine)? Why did Alan Keyes get so many primary votes (including mine, twice)? Remind me ...... who drove Herman Cain out of the 2012 R primaries?

@PeteS in CA

Why bother to even ask anymore? We all know you just can't fix stupid.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2020, 06:02:13 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 19, 2020, 05:50:26 pm
Republicans are the least racist people I know.   You want to see a racist follow you typical tolerant Liberal around, then you will see the new face of racism in America.  True story.

In today's climate the most horribly racist thing one can do is expect all to be held to the same standards.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2020, 06:04:59 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 19, 2020, 05:50:26 pm
Republicans are the least racist people I know.   You want to see a racist follow you typical tolerant Liberal around, then you will see the new face of racism in America.  True story.

@Wingnut

 :amen:! Not to worry,though. They are just there,working day and night,to help out their "little darkie friends who are too stupid to be able to think for themselves."

Rant and rave all you want,but the above IS the freaking mindset of the left,and it is WHY they hate accomplished minorities that rise to the top without their help.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2020, 06:05:22 pm »
Quote from: sneakypete on January 19, 2020, 06:00:55 pm
@Smokin Joe

The left wore that "yousa racist!" crap out with me years ago. It is their knee-jerk reaction to ANYTHING you say that is critical about anybody that isn't white no matter what they have done and said,that it has now became meaningless to me. I KNOW I am not racists,and I don't have to prove it to anybody BUT me.

The truth is I think they used it to the point where it has backfired on them,and calling anybody a racist anymore has no real meaning.

Sure it's meaningless, but we can throw it back at them. You see, they don't consider themselves racist when they blame white men for every ill of society, even as they craft more policy which only ensures those ills continue.

It's fun to slap them with their own crap.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2020, 06:17:20 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on January 19, 2020, 04:28:38 pm
Why did Alan Keyes get so many primary votes (including mine, twice)?

Me too.
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