The Tea Party didn't reduce spending either.
In fact, I'll bet they did - But you would have to go into the
statehouses and governorships to find that out. Again, the emphasis of the TEA party was ground-up. You are focused on national, where the TEA party had barely begun.
And to your point, they couldn't because they didn't have the votes in Congress. I'm just suggesting you consider extending the same recognition of lack of votes in Congress to Trump.
No, Tump is a one hit wonder at best - The TEA Party was/is ongoing. WHATEVER Tumpy is going to do is DONE in 4/8 years. And he has done absolutely nothing to reign in spending and balance budgets (one of his primary promises). Not even a single veto. Not even significant dickering. He just signs the bill. FOR TRILLIONS... And somehow remains unaccountable.
It's the lack of conservative votes in Congress that is the GIGANTIC elephant in the room. Trump supported Ryan's deficit reduction plan -- didn't have enough votes in Congress to win. He supported repealing Obamacare -- but again, didn't have enough votes in Congress to win.
Alright... Not enough Conservatives... Forged by the same shallow pragmatism and Republican-ism that forged Tump. Your rah-rah bullcrap is getting in your own way.
But you insist on blaming Trump for not reducing the deficit while simultaneously saying it's not fair to blame the Tea Party for failing to do the same. Yet in both cases, the culpable entity is Congress as a whole, and the lack of conservative votes.
And again, barely begun to be effected by the TEA Party Movement - The movement defamed and destroyed at the national level BY Tump and the moderates.
Were you serious, you'd be voting for Conservatives. That's how you get more Conservatives IN CONGRESS so that there are MORE CONSERVATIVE VOTES. That is all I am doing.
Why is that Trump's fault? if anything, he's been the guy chasing out the RINO's.
The more salient question is: Why ISN'T it Tump's fault? I am on record here screaming 'throw the bastards out' - I am not limiting blame to Tump. But neither will I hold him unaccountable.
And no, the RINOs (moderate globalists) are largely intact, and STILL in power, hand in hand with Tumpy the Clown. It is the Conservatives that have been decimated. Derailed in elections by the RNC, Defamed, or cast out in the ether by Tumpy's nuclear powered revolving door, spinning like a desktop fan... There are hardly any Conservatives left. Go find how many 90%+ Conservatives now walk the halls of Congress.
It is true. Outside of ObamaCare, almost everything Obama accomplished was via Executive Order. It took awhile to get rid of those because of bogus court rulings, but Trump will end up winning on those, and getting rulings that those kind of EO's are unconstitutional. He's able to do that even though the Dems hold the House because they were only Obama Executive Orders in the first place.
But in additional to tossing Obama EO's and getting favorable court rulings, Trump also got actual legislation. The tax reform was huge -- easily the biggest, best tax bill since Reagan. He's building an actual wall along the most heavily crossed sections of the border, and if he gets a second term, he'll likely be able to complete it. That isn't nothing.
You are making my case. Obama and Tump are identical in their governing... or will be if Tumpy gets another term... Each has one significant bill to their credit, passed as law... All the rest they have done has been by EO, and what has happened to Obama's legacy, which you are lauding Tump for, will just as quickly happen to Tump's.
It's the same dang thing. Just opposite sides of the coin... EOs mean nothing. They are temporary.
As to the wall, as I said, until the wall is there and garrisoned, yes, it is nothing. Blocking high traffic is like damming water. It just goes somewhere else.
Anyway, I'll finish with this. I fully supported the Tea Party movement. And even though they didn't manage to gain control of Congress, they did enough to deny the Democrats control of Congress for the last six years of Obama, and so prevented them from enacting a ton of very, very bad legislation. That's a big positive, particularly in terms of immigration. Because if it hadn't been for the Tea Party, the Democrats likely would have enacted massive amnesty/legalization that would have granted citizenship to more than enough illegals to swing every future national election. So thank you for your efforts with the Tea Party, because that was huge.
Right. All that without a focus on national offices. All that with but a handful of true stalwarts.
However...I'd suggest that perhaps Trump be viewed the same way, and why a vote for him is so important. Because if he doesn't win, and at least "do nothing", we're going to get a Democrat who at the barest minimum will appoint left wing activists judges.
I do not suppose Tump to be doing nothing... I submit he is in bed with the globalist moderates. Thus his judges, vetted throug McConnell, are just activists of another flavor, and I will bet money that flavor is NOT Conservative.
I view the globalist moderate right to be every bit as dangerous as the communist left. So your argument fails right there.
And then they won't need control of both houses, because those activists judges and Justices will then ram through as constitutional mandates most of the things we both oppose. Immigration...the whole thing. And then the game really will be over, because you can't get rid of those Supreme Court opinions without control of both the Presidency and the Senate, and if they get their mass legalization, we will have no shot at any of that, ever again.
Fair - But immigration is not stopping. Nor is the wall there. Tump has made noise toward path-to-citizenship, just like every other damn moderate globalist. And I fully expect amnesty out of this president in his second term.
Neither is immigration 'the thing'... Spending is every bit as much as big a 'thing'. An exponentially growing by trillions thing. A 'See you in Venezuela' thing.
Our hollowed out education system is another 'thing' That indoctrination and propaganda system remains untouched, and needs to stop right now.
And an hundred other aspects of THE THING. None of that is being touched. And Big Gvt Tump is the best we can do? Dismal.
What has to happen is exactly the 'purity' all y'all decry. A Republican big tent is precisely useless, as it has proven to be for decades. Except in its cover for New World Order Globalists.
