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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #50 on: January 18, 2020, 03:21:09 am »
So what did y'all think of those ads for role playing actors (crisis actors)?

Chilling, my spidey senses are on edge.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #51 on: January 18, 2020, 03:39:33 am »
Chilling, my spidey senses are on edge.
Mine, too.
If something goes down, they will use this not only to justify the abuse of the Second Amendment in Virginia, but as a springboard to push for national legislation.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #52 on: January 18, 2020, 04:49:45 am »

 WHEN something goes down, they will use this not only to justify the abuse of the Second Amendment in Virginia, but as a springboard to push for national legislation.

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There,fixed it for ya.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #53 on: January 18, 2020, 04:55:49 am »
@Smokin Joe

There,fixed it for ya.
Yeah, you might well be right. My spidey sense is off the charts on this one.

I only pray I am wrong.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #54 on: January 18, 2020, 12:27:03 pm »
No you don't. Your vote is an endorsement FOR Tumpy the Clown. That is all it can be.
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  support to someone or something.

I realize that y'all have probably been over all this. But I was absent, so....

In my case the "or something" was, (and is) the proposition that Donald John Trump is a better, and the only realistic, option to advance my own interests. We, as a nation,  have agreed to use arithmetic within the established institutions and procedures in deciding who shall be the Chief Executive.

So your use of the word "endorse" is one that allows me to separate the man from his foibles and to focus on his promises and contrast them with his opponents, all in Realville.
   

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #55 on: January 18, 2020, 12:55:30 pm »
Yeah, you might well be right. My spidey sense is off the charts on this one.

I only pray I am wrong.

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My senses are twitchin’ too.

But does that mean we yield the field without even showing up?
Sometimes you gotta walk in to a shit show even though you know it’s gonna be a shit show.
We as conservatives analyze things to death.  But sometimes....and Id say we are LONG past time....but  sometimes you just gotta stop the paralysis by analysis, cowboy up and deal with the shit show.

Truly and seriously:  if not now...when?
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #56 on: January 18, 2020, 01:47:24 pm »
@sneakypete @Smokin Joe

My senses are twitchin’ too.

But does that mean we yield the field without even showing up?
Sometimes you gotta walk in to a shit show even though you know it’s gonna be a shit show.
We as conservatives analyze things to death.  But sometimes....and Id say we are LONG past time....but  sometimes you just gotta stop the paralysis by analysis, cowboy up and deal with the shit show.


Truly and seriously:  if not now...when?


@Axeslinger if VA were my state I would probably be thinking exactly as you are.  If you didn't see this yet, some good thoughts from Matt Bracken (Travis McGee):

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

Worth a read before Monday.

Fare thee well!

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #57 on: January 18, 2020, 02:25:12 pm »
@Axeslinger if VA were my state I would probably be thinking exactly as you are.  If you didn't see this yet, some good thoughts from Matt Bracken (Travis McGee):

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

Worth a read before Monday.

Fare thee well!

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@Axeslinger I heartily second the words of my good friend @EdJames!  Fare thee well indeed.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #58 on: January 18, 2020, 02:52:35 pm »
Many in WV would welcome some of Virginia's sane counties with open arms.
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MARTINSBURG, W.Va. — Bordering Hampshire, Morgan and Berkeley counties is Frederick County, Virginia.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2020, 02:53:18 pm »
@Axeslinger if VA were my state I would probably be thinking exactly as you are.  If you didn't see this yet, some good thoughts from Matt Bracken (Travis McGee):

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

Worth a read before Monday.

Fare thee well!

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First they came for the socialists Virginians , and I did not speak out
Because I was not a socialists Virginian.

Then they came for ___________


Thanks for the good tidings.  And I had been looking for Matt’s essay, so thank you.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #60 on: January 18, 2020, 03:05:32 pm »
Matt Bracken is a very wise man.

The best attire for the event would be to arrive unarmed dressed as if you just arrived from colonial Williamsburg.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2020, 03:15:47 pm »
@Axeslinger if VA were my state I would probably be thinking exactly as you are.  If you didn't see this yet, some good thoughts from Matt Bracken (Travis McGee):

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

Worth a read before Monday.

Fare thee well!

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The 'risk" does not concern me as much as the lack of an identifiable result, other than folks getting hurt.
Not sure yet what I will do.. I keep going back and forth with it....
Thanks for the link...



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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2020, 04:06:18 pm »
@sneakypete @Smokin Joe

My senses are twitchin’ too.

But does that mean we yield the field without even showing up?
Sometimes you gotta walk in to a shit show even though you know it’s gonna be a shit show.
We as conservatives analyze things to death.  But sometimes....and Id say we are LONG past time....but  sometimes you just gotta stop the paralysis by analysis, cowboy up and deal with the shit show.

Truly and seriously:  if not now...when?

@Axeslinger

I would love to go to Richmond,but can't for several reasons,all having to do with age,health,and temperament. I have never played well with people getting in my face and screaming at me,and my kneejerk response is to give them something to scream about. Besides being in my 70's,I have Congestive Heart Failure,Lymphoma,and arthritis in my knees and hands. Hell,I have a hard time walking 100 feet without gasping for breath.

All this means I can no longer afford to play around with attackers,especially multiple attackers. Anyone that attacks me will end up losing at least one eye,and maybe their lives. And I can tell you for a fact that if I had been that lone man with the little girl that was mobbed by the communists,I would have gotten her to safety and truly ugly things would have happened when I got back to our attackers. There would be bodies laying in the streets,and I will not even attempt to claim I would be sorry about it. I would dance of their bleeping corpses. If you don't want to get bit,don't be bleeping with the dog.

I spent my young life training to kill communists,and having our government send me far away to kill communists. I thought that was a fine thing to do back then,and have seen nothing since them to make me change my mind.

Which would be no moral problem for me IF they were all communists. They are not,though. The vast majority are nothing more than punks and thugs taking advantage of the lack of response by the police to mob up and attack defenseless people they would normally dump a load in their pants if they met them one on one.  Take out the "10 percent leadership" (a rule of thumb truth) behind these mobs,and they all suddenly want their mommies and a hugs. Mobs are composed of cowards. They get their strength from numbers and their direction from professional agitators.

IF any of you go who are serious about this problem ,what you need to do is hang back a little from your fellow protestors so you have the distance and time to take note of who are the instigators. They are easily identified because they will be wearing masks and helmets,and running in and out of the front lines,and when they do run to the background,they will be getting direction from a group leader who has a radio or runners and is coordinating actions with other groups. Target THESE MoFo's and take them down HARD with permanent crippling or massive blood loss,and their followers will disappear like dust in a windstorm.

Go for kneecaps with baseball bats or lead pipe. An alternate is a 2 or 3 foot section of 1 or 2 inch hardwood dowel to be used to thrust into vital areas or use as a club to knock weapons out of their hands and/or break hands and arms. If all else fails,steel-tipped boots to the genitals of the males or stomping on their kneecaps to break the knees and get them on the ground where you can "kick a field goal".

It is VERY important that nobody ever pull a gun,never mind shoot,unless you are surrounded and/or your life is in danger and you have no other choice.

Don't forget,the way to destroy this movement of self-absorbed cowards,twits,and other associated low-lifes is NOT to make them martyrs by shooting them,it is to cripple them for life to serve as living examples of what happens to mob leaders.

All of this is just a general theory,or course. I am NOT suggesting or even implying that anyone do this in real life. I am just trying to help outline some things potential fiction authors might want to use in any fiction books they write about "The ANTIFA Uprising",and explain why they would do such things.

BTW,if you do go,DO NOT TAKE CHILDREN WITH YOU! It is hard enough to protect yourself in a mob situation,and it is impossible to protect both yourself AND your children at the same time. ANTIFA might claim to be against firearm ownership,but you can bet your asses some of the "Field Marshalls" and/or their aides are armed,and just looking for an excuse to start shooting so they can blame it on "Redneck NRA crazy racists". Winning the propaganda war is every bit as important as winning the physical war.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #63 on: January 18, 2020, 04:08:29 pm »

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I realize that y'all have probably been over all this. But I was absent, so....

In my case the "or something" was, (and is) the proposition that Donald John Trump is a better, and the only realistic, option to advance my own interests. We, as a nation,  have agreed to use arithmetic within the established institutions and procedures in deciding who shall be the Chief Executive.


The matter at hand @don-o , was the specious assertion that one can vote against something or someone the way our vote is provided for. As a technical matter, it simply is not so. Your vote is an endorsement, and only ever an endorsement.

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So your use of the word "endorse" is one that allows me to separate the man from his foibles and to focus on his promises and contrast them with his opponents, all in Realville.
   

I respect you brother, even as I always have... But a man cannot be separated from his character... As is being proven daily. In that, I believe you to be in error. I will not lend my endorsement to this administration.

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« Reply #64 on: January 18, 2020, 04:29:14 pm »
The matter at hand @don-o , was the specious assertion that one can vote against something or someone the way our vote is provided for. As a technical matter, it simply is not so. Your vote is an endorsement, and only ever an endorsement.

I respect you brother, even as I always have... But a man cannot be separated from his character... As is being proven daily. In that, I believe you to be in error. I will not lend my endorsement to this administration.
So, in other words, you are ok with President Warren/Sanders?  Got it..

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #65 on: January 18, 2020, 04:38:44 pm »
So, in other words, you are ok with President Warren/Sanders?  Got it..

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Of course he is. It will give him something to complain about in 2020. Some people just ain't happy unless they have something to complain about.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #66 on: January 18, 2020, 04:40:05 pm »
So, in other words, you are ok with President Warren/Sanders?  Got it..

I ain't 'OK' with either side. I see no difference.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #67 on: January 18, 2020, 04:42:28 pm »
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Of course he is. It will give him something to complain about in 2020. Some people just ain't happy unless they have something to complain about.

You want to see me quit complaining? Support Conservatives. Particularly fiscal conservatives in this day and age. Put your money where your mouth is.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #68 on: January 18, 2020, 04:56:29 pm »
@Axeslinger if VA were my state I would probably be thinking exactly as you are.  If you didn't see this yet, some good thoughts from Matt Bracken (Travis McGee):

https://www.americanpartisan.org/2020/01/richmond-the-mother-of-all-buffalo-jumps/

Worth a read before Monday.

Fare thee well!

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Bracken nailed it there.   I noted, especially, this part....

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So the top Fed in Richmond is an anti-Trump FBI counterintelligence expert (like Peter Strzok) who just finished working for Robert Mueller as part of the deep state coup effort.

As always with the radical left, expect an ambush and a setup.   It's how they roll.

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« Reply #69 on: January 18, 2020, 05:09:06 pm »
I ain't 'OK' with either side. I see no difference.

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« Reply #70 on: January 18, 2020, 05:18:02 pm »
You want to see me quit complaining? Support Conservatives. Particularly fiscal conservatives in this day and age. Put your money where your mouth is.

Sadly my friend that animal is near extinct.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #71 on: January 18, 2020, 05:21:08 pm »
Sadly my friend that animal is near extinct.

Realistically, the political winds are drifting away from Conservatism.   So yeah, expecting a bona fide "Conservative" candidate for president is a friggin pipe dream, at this point in our collective national demise.
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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #72 on: January 18, 2020, 05:24:28 pm »
Sadly my friend that animal is near extinct.

Realistically, the political winds are drifting away from Conservatism.   So yeah, expecting a bona fide "Conservative" candidate for president is a friggin pipe dream, at this point in our collective national demise.


Then quite literally, all hope is lost. The grown-ups have left the room. All that's left is a food fight.

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« Reply #73 on: January 18, 2020, 05:25:10 pm »

Hope these help.

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Re: Is Governor Northam trying to start a second civil war?
« Reply #74 on: January 18, 2020, 05:30:00 pm »
You want to see me quit complaining? Support Conservatives. Particularly fiscal conservatives in this day and age. Put your money where your mouth is.

@roamer_1

WHAT so-called "conservatives" that are running for office? Name names.

Meanwhile,you are tactically supporting leftists by withholding your support of Trump,the most conservative candidate since Ronald Reagan,and who has already pushed more conservative judges into position than Reagan or any other president.

In short,all you are doing is having hissy-fits.
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