Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion

[TomSea]

Dow posts worst day since October and turns negative for the year as coronavirus fears grow

Stocks tanked on Monday after more cases of the coronavirus were confirmed over the weekend, ratcheting up worries over the virus’ impact on the world economy.

The Dow Jones Industrial Average fell 453.93 points, or 1.6% to 28,535.80, wiping out the average’s gains for the year. The 30-stock average also notched its biggest one-day fall since October along with its longest losing streak since August. The S&P 500 dropped 1.6% to 3,243.63, snapping a 74-session streak without a 1% decline. The Nasdaq Composite had its worst day since August, dropping 1.9% to 9,139.31.

There are 2,862 confirmed cases so far in China and the death toll in China has risen to 81. The World Health Organization’s director general is traveling to China to meet with government and health officials. In the U.S., a fifth case of coronavirus was confirmed over the weekend.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/27/dow-futures-as-coronavirus-cases-rise.html

Oil down too or under $60 a barrel at this point.

This is some uncertainty alright. It seems the markets are saying this will be bad.

[TomSea]

The Epoch Times, founded years ago by the Falun Gong, now, is quite a respected conservative news website and because the Falun Gong (sometimes called Falun Dafa as well) is persecuted there so badly, they don't hold any punches back in portraying China. All of these are shocking headlines from their China page....this crisis so far, certainly is showing that China imho, is the real threat out there, more than Russia. And that's what the experts say.

China Underreporting True Scale of Deadly Viral Outbreak, Expert Says
By Eva Fu    January 27, 2020

The Chinese regime is likely underreporting the true scale of the coronavirus outbreak, according to a Harvard epidemiologist.

Fears of a rampant epidemic are mounting after the infectious disease hit most parts of China and have spread to over a dozen countries globally.

Official figures record the pneumonia-like virus infecting thousands and killing scores, although experts say the total number of infections is vastly greater than that reported by the communist regime.

Read more at: https://www.theepochtimes.com/china-underreporting-true-scale-of-deadly-viral-outbreak-expert-says_3218207.html

Chinese Authorities Manipulate Tally of Confirmed Coronavirus Cases by Controlling the Supply of Diagnosis Kits
By Olivia Li, Epoch Times
January 27, 2020 Updated: January 27, 2020

The outbreak of Wuhan coronavirus is far bigger than the official figures released by Chinese public health authorities who cover up the severity by limiting the number of diagnosis kits to Wuhan hospitals, according to an insider and an independent journalist.

The insider and the independent journalist both say that diagnosis kits are only provided to certain “qualifying hospitals” and in very limited quantities. Medical personnel at these hospitals have said that the number of kits they are supplied is less than 10 percent of what they need to test patients.

Now these hospitals claim that their responsibility at present is to provide treatment only, and they will not perform any diagnoses. Patients who are seeking a diagnosis are unable to get one and find themselves in a desperate situation.

Read more at: https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-authorities-manipulate-tally-of-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-by-controlling-the-supply-of-diagnosis-kits_3217914.html

China Restricts Medical Supply Donations, Despite Dire Need During Viral Outbreak
By Nicole Hao
January 27, 2020 Updated: January 27, 2020

Beijing has banned private charities and volunteers from entering Hubei Province, the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak, or sending materials to hospitals directly.

It’s unclear why authorities made the decision.

Meanwhile, Chinese netizens complained on social media that officially sanctioned charity organizations were complicated and slow in their processing, delaying shipments to hospitals in Hubei.

More at: https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinese-authorities-manipulate-tally-of-confirmed-coronavirus-cases-by-controlling-the-supply-of-diagnosis-kits_3217914.html

This last one, good point if true, why keep charities out of a place!!!

Lastly, yes, 3 countries that I'm aware of have closed the border to China, that being North Korea, Mongolia and ??? I don't know the third one. Russia has a border with China, maybe they are doing it.

The Epoch Times China page:   https://www.theepochtimes.com/c-china

I'm not really aware of any other source like this, that details the wrongs China does and it's mainly about human rights and things like that.

If you run into a pay wall at Epoch Times, I click the "read" or "Page" icon in the URL box on firefox. Epoch Times has an article limit usually but all 3 of these came up okay.

[dfwgator]

Trump better get on top of this. 

You know the Rats will not let this crisis go to waste.

[Free Vulcan]

Dr. Dena Grayson
@DrDenaGrayson
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BREAKING: #China says that #coronavirus infections increased from 2,887 to 4,515 *an increase of 56% in a single day*. Deaths increased 29% to 106.

This is just the beginning. Expect these numbers to continue to rise...quickly.

@thespybrief #2019_nCov
https://theguardian.com/science/live/2020/jan/28/coronavirus-first-death-in-beijing-as-us-issues-new-china-travel-warning-live-updates

[Free Vulcan]

Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
9. BOTTOMLINE: 1) Seafood market not the source. 2) This RNA #coronavirus mutates really fast. 3)  has unusual middle segment never seen before in any coronavirus. 4) Not from recent mixing. 5) That mystery middle segment encodes protein responsible for entry into host cells.
10:15 PM · Jan 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
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https://mobile.twitter.com/drericding/status/1222010300859371522

[DB]

Dr. Eric Feigl-Ding
@DrEricDing
9. BOTTOMLINE: 1) Seafood market not the source. 2) This RNA #coronavirus mutates really fast. 3)  has unusual middle segment never seen before in any coronavirus. 4) Not from recent mixing. 5) That mystery middle segment encodes protein responsible for entry into host cells.
10:15 PM · Jan 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
481Retweets 810 Likes

https://mobile.twitter.com/drericding/status/1222010300859371522

So in other words, engineered.

[DB]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-testing-insight-idUSKBN1ZQ21K

This is way worse than China is acknowledging.

[Free Vulcan]

So in other words, engineered.

Reading all 10 of his posts, sure looks that way. He's not some fringe crackpot either.

[Smokin Joe]

Apparently designed to spread. If that is the case, the limiting factor is access to populations and victims.

Does anyone have  any idea as to mortality rates?

Even 1-2% could take out millions if it spreads far enough.

(I'm not saying that to panic anyone, just to inform that, like any novel pathogen, this could be a serious outbreak and has an apparently excellent ability to spread.)

[Free Vulcan]

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'GRAPHIC VIDEOS' are still coming from #Wuhan as the #CoronaVirus is still spreading.

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 confirmed that there’re 100 possible cases of Corona infections here in the U.S. The #CDC also noted that there’re 3,000 or more 'confirmed' cases in #China:

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#Wuhan BSL-4 Research Laboratory was using a bat-derived SARS-like #coronavirus to test it's disinfectant procedures in 2018. Genetic sequencing of 2019 Novel CoV suggests the current virus is extremely similar. Proximity of the Research Lab to outbreak origin deeply troubling.
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[Gefn]

Thank you everyone for the updates.

[thackney]

Apparently designed to spread. If that is the case, the limiting factor is access to populations and victims.

Does anyone have  any idea as to mortality rates?

Even 1-2% could take out millions if it spreads far enough.

(I'm not saying that to panic anyone, just to inform that, like any novel pathogen, this could be a serious outbreak and has an apparently excellent ability to spread.)

Coronavirus vs. SARS: Health experts on the key differences between the two outbreaks
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/28/coronavirus-vs-sars-health-experts-on-the-key-differences.html

...The continued spread of the coronavirus is “more infectious” but less severe than the SARS epidemic, health experts have told CNBC.

The direct comparison comes as market participants try to understand the potential economic impact of the latest outbreak.

Everything indicates that the mortality rate of coronavirus is lower when compared to the outbreak of SARS in 2003, Peter Piot, professor of global health and director at London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, told CNBC’s “Squawk Box Europe” on Tuesday.

But, if 1 million people become infected by the coronavirus — “which is not impossible” — a 1% or 2% mortality rate would translate as 10,000 or 20,000 deaths, Piot said.

Chinese health authorities confirmed Tuesday that the coronavirus outbreak had infected 4,515 people, with 106 reported deaths. It means the virus has killed just over 2% of those that have been infected....

[libertybele]

These are the 20 U.S. airports screening for the coronavirus. Here's what it entails

    Los Angeles International
    San Francisco International
    Chicago O'Hare
    New York JFK
    Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson International
    Houston George Bush Intercontinental
    Dallas-Fort Worth International
    San Diego International
    Seattle-Tacoma International
    Honolulu International
    Anchorage Ted Stevens International
    Minneapolis-St. Paul International
    Detroit Metropolitan
    Miami International
    Washington Dulles International
    Philadelphia International
    Newark Liberty International
    Boston Logan International
    El Paso International
    Puerto Rico's San Juan Airport

https://www.usatoday.com/travel/

[TomSea]

I have no ideas about this website, it does not look real credible, you know, more of one of those off the wall websites "Great Game India", journal on geopolitics and international relations, it doesn't look terrible either. I have never seen it before, so I wanted to get that out of the way:

Coronavirus Bioweapon – How China Stole Coronavirus From Canada And Weaponized It
By   GreatGameIndia -
January 26, 2020 | Last modified on January 28th, 2020 at 6:02 pm,

Last year a mysterious shipment was caught smuggling Coronavirus from Canada. It was traced to Chinese agents working at a Canadian lab. Subsequent investigation by GreatGameIndia linked the agents to Chinese Biological Warfare Program from where the virus is suspected to have leaked causing the Wuhan Coronavirus outbreak.

Read more at: https://greatgameindia.com/coronavirus-bioweapon/

Okay, I'm just going to quote this, this is interesting.... who wrote this up? It does look like all of this is from India. It might take a bit of study.  Slightly complex.

And per the other thread, last summer, a Chinese researcher was escorted out of an infectious disease laboratory in Canada.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/chinese-researcher-escorted-from-infectious-disease-lab-amid-rcmp-investigation-1.5211567

New thread in National News, Harvard Prof of chemical biological department arrested, he was the head there apparently.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,390005.new.html#new

https://www.foxnews.com/us/harvard-university-professor-arrested

Let's not forget, the Chinese have messed with cloning, that guy was arrested but obviously, we need a full alert on what is going on.

[Gefn]

Starbucks has closed more than half of its Chinese stores because of coronavirus

New York (CNN Business)Starbucks has closed more than half of its roughly 4,300 Chinese stores, as the deadly coronavirus continues to spread in the country.

The company said Tuesday it is continuing to "monitor and modify the operating hours of all of our stores in the market," in light of the outbreak."This is expected to be temporary," Starbucks added.

Over the weekend, the company said that it was closing shops and suspending delivery services in the city of Wuhan, the epicenter of the outbreak, and the wider Hubei Province.

John Culver, the company's international president, said that the "situation accelerated" over the past few weeks, adding that Starbucks is evaluating closures "each and every day." Stores that are open still offer delivery, he said.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/28/business/starbucks-earnings-china-closures/index.html

[libertybele]

Coronavirus outbreak: Chartered jet flies Americans from China to US, report says

How can they possibly screen these people when they can be contagious and not show any symptoms for days? This may be an epidemic just waiting to happen in the U.S.

Latest map of outbreak @ link below -- the difference between yesterday and today is significant!


https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-chartered-jet-americans-china-to-us

[TomSea]

Coronavirus outbreak: Chartered jet flies Americans from China to US, report says

How can they possibly screen these people when they can be contagious and not show any symptoms for days? This may be an epidemic just waiting to happen in the U.S.

Latest map of outbreak @ link below -- the difference between yesterday and today is significant!


https://www.foxnews.com/health/coronavirus-outbreak-chartered-jet-americans-china-to-us

That's a good question and leads into this article I just found:

Australia to help some citizens leave China, quarantine them on Christmas Island

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Australia will help some citizens leave Hubei province in China, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak, and quarantine them on Christmas Island, Prime Minister Scott Morrison said on Wednesday following a briefing by the Chinese government.

“We have taken a decision this morning to prepare a plan for an operation to provide some assisted departures for isolated and vulnerable Australians in Wuhan and the Hubei province,” Morrison told reporters in Canberra.

Morrison did not say how many of the 600 Australians registered in the Hubei region the government would be able to help, adding Australia would also be working to help New Zealand and Pacific island citizens in Hubei.

Continued at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-australia-citizens-idUSKBN1ZS04N

I asked the same question. It doesn't sound like they have the plan down pat yet but are working on it.

Christmas island is in the South Pacific.

[TomSea]

the coronavirus crisis

Starbucks closes 2,000 stores in China over coronavirus outbreak

In response to the Wuhan coronavirus outbreak, Starbucks has closed more than 2,000 stores in China.

The flu-like virus originated in the Chinese city of Wuhan, and there are more than 4,500 confirmed cases; at least 130 people have died. Starbucks is the world's largest coffee chain, and China is the company's biggest growth market, making up 10 percent of its global revenue, Reuters reports. There are 4,292 Starbucks locations in China, and the stores that are staying open have revised operating hours.

https://theweek.com/speedreads/892305/israeli-government-vote-annexing-part-west-bank

[Gefn]

Plane carrying US evacuees from China amid coronavirus outbreak diverted to California air base


A plane carrying about 210 U.S. citizens evacuated from Wuhan, China—the epicenter of the deadly coronavirus—has landed in the U.S. after it was diverted Tuesday to California’s March Air Reserve Base "for the logistics that they have," an official said.

The Boeing 747 with red and gold stripes and no passenger windows was initially headed to Ontario International Airport in California. It landed in Alaska at Ted Stevens Anchorage International Airport on Tuesday night -- before it refuels and makes its way to the base.

https://www.foxnews.com/health/plane-with-u-s-evacuees-from-china-diverted-from-california-to-air-force-base-curt-hagman-says

(Video embedded in article)
Curt Hagman, the chairman of the San Bernandino County Board of Supervisors and a commissioner at the airport, said on social media that the CDC had informed him of its decision to divert the flight.

[Gefn]

British Airways suspends all flights to China amid coronavirus fears


British Airways ceased all of its direct flights to and from mainland China amid the coronavirus outbreak -- with the decision coming after the United Kingdom advised against "all but essential" travel to the rest of the country on Tuesday.

When logging into BA.com, the official website for the airline, it currently shows no direct flights to the country -- with a posted notice, "Sorry, there are no direct flights for this route, flights with connections are below."


“We apologize to customers for the inconvenience, but the safety of our customers and crew is always our priority,” BA said in an emailed statement to Reuters on Wednesday. “Customers due to travel to or from China in the coming days can find more information on BA.com.”

https://www.foxnews.com/travel/british-airways-suspends-all-flights-to-china-amid-coronavirus

[Gefn]

First Cases of Coronavirus Reported in Middle East, UAE Confirms

The United Arab Emirates on Wednesday confirmed the first cases in the Mideast of the new Chinese virus that causes flu-like symptoms, saying doctors now were treating a family that had just come from a city at the epicenter of the outbreak.

The UAE’s state-run WAM news agency made the announcement citing the Health and Prevention Ministry, but offered no details on where the stricken family lived nor where they were receiving treatment.

It also did not offer a number of those afflicted by the virus, other than to say the cases came from "members of a family arriving from the Chinese city of Wuhan."

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/first-cases-of-coronavirus-reported-in-middle-east-uae-confirms/2270951/

[TomSea]

This is interesting, I watched the video. The man has a boxes of masks, runs into the store, puts it on the counter and runs out.

Should he not have some gloves on?

Video at tweet and in this article link:   

https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/1222459402512424961

Man gives 500 face masks for coronavirus to police, runs away: Video

A Chinese man ran into a police station, left 500 face masks to help combat the coronavirus, and then ran away, showed unverified video circulating on social media on Wednesday.

The video, shared by users on Twitter and published by several media outlets, reportedly shows a man at a police station in Anhui Province, which borders Hubei province to the west. The capital of Hubei, Wuhan, is the site of the deadly outbreak of coronavirus, also known by many as corona.

Footage shows a man running into a police station and leaving what appear to be masks on the country. Two policemen are then seen chasing the man, apparently to thank him for his gesture. The two policemen then salute into the distance.

Continued at: https://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2020/01/29/Man-gives-500-face-masks-for-coronavirus-to-police-runs-away-Video.html

   It's gone viral.

[Drago]

The state dept. chartered 747 "Wuhan Coronavirus Express" (cargo plane with pallet seats installed) is airborne (pun intended)...now headed for SoCal. 

Tracking:  https://fr24.com/CKS371/23afe247

Next stop March Air Reserve Base.

Sat. map of March ARB: https://goo.gl/maps/jhj4zFTC4kMLjupc9

March Website: https://www.march.afrc.af.mil

[libertybele]

This virus is spreading very rapidly --more than 100 suspected cases across 27 states!  Why would the bring in 100's of Americans from China back to the states? 

Rep. Roger Marshall: Coronavirus has reached the heartland

Five cases of the 2019 Novel Coronavirus(2019-nCoV) have been confirmed in four states here at home. All are linked to recent travel from the endemic area of China. A sixth possible case – in my home state of Kansas – heightens serious concerns about the impact of this international outbreak of a potentially deadly virus, now in the middle of America.

There are more than 100 other individuals across 27 states currently being monitored by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) to determine whether they have been infected with the coronavirus. U.S. health officials remain on high alert and are adapting to the minute-by-minute updates from around the world. There are an additional 86 confirmed cases of coronavirus in 17 countries outside of China.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/coronavirus-has-reached-the-heartland-rep-roger-marshall

[libertybele]

On January 20, there were 291 cases of this virus in China.  As of today there are 5,970 cases in China.

My question; how do they determine the coronavirus from the flu virus?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-51235105