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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3225 on: March 24, 2020, 10:01:29 pm »
Want to see how much each county in America is changing their habits? This crude Social Distancing Scoreboard measures the change in distance traveled to come up with a score for each county.

https://www.unacast.com/covid19/social-distancing-scoreboard

Of course, travel isn't the main driver except perhaps for transporting the virus to new places. It's the large crowds that really drive this stuff.

My County (Mohave, AZ) gets an "F."  12% change in traveling.  Oh, we are all zeros, in cases, recoveries and fatalities.  We're like, "What pandemic?"  It's still bad for business.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3226 on: March 24, 2020, 10:08:48 pm »
My County (Mohave, AZ) gets an "F."  12% change in traveling.  Oh, we are all zeros, in cases, recoveries and fatalities.  We're like, "What pandemic?"  It's still bad for business.

HAHAHAHA! All the worst counties are in MT.

ANYPLACE in the west is gong to fare poorly by this metric...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3227 on: March 24, 2020, 10:09:39 pm »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3228 on: March 24, 2020, 10:14:00 pm »
HAHAHAHA! All the worst counties are in MT.

ANYPLACE in the west is gong to fare poorly by this metric...

A lot of that is because we don't have a lot of choice on traveling, and we can drive and drive without contacting anybody else in the process.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3229 on: March 24, 2020, 10:20:55 pm »
A lot of that is because we don't have a lot of choice on traveling, and we can drive and drive without contacting anybody else in the process.

Yep. Everything is 100 miles away. And you ain't gonna pass many cars as you're going...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3230 on: March 24, 2020, 10:25:59 pm »
Want to see how much each county in America is changing their habits? This crude Social Distancing Scoreboard measures the change in distance traveled to come up with a score for each county.

https://www.unacast.com/covid19/social-distancing-scoreboard

Of course, travel isn't the main driver except perhaps for transporting the virus to new places. It's the large crowds that really drive this stuff.

All the Georgia counties that got F's have no cases.  The counties with the most cases all got A's.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3231 on: March 24, 2020, 10:26:44 pm »
Want to see how much each county in America is changing their habits? This crude Social Distancing Scoreboard measures the change in distance traveled to come up with a score for each county.

https://www.unacast.com/covid19/social-distancing-scoreboard

Of course, travel isn't the main driver except perhaps for transporting the virus to new places. It's the large crowds that really drive this stuff.
I think you are right about the crowds, and the fact that driving may disperse the pathogen along main highway corridors.
A few things to point out about the distance traveled metric.
In this end of ND, you have to go 120 miles (if you stay in state) to get to the next big town. The 'Quest for Charmin' could easily rack up 150 miles, if you live between the bigger  towns.

While that holds, people who live that far from town and a big-ish box store tend to stock up and only make one trip a month or less, relying on local markets for things like milk and eggs, if they don't grow their own.
With the 'panic', I have little doubt those pantries were checked and the holes filled in, as best as people could, which would provide a surge in miles traveled above average, followed by a serious drop.
Some of the decrease in miles traveled will be due to the oil patch shutting down (because of prices), and some travel will be a result of that, and either is unlikely to do anything but expose those out of work to town, and remove those who still are working from that in-town environment. The work environment provides social distancing, and between the oil patch and farming, a lot of time is spent solo.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3232 on: March 24, 2020, 10:37:20 pm »
I've heard that no one should be getting flu shot right now. That getting the flu shot depresses the immune system and if you get exposed to the Wuhan virus while it is depressed you're more likely to get seriously sick.

I saw some blurb about this but can't find a link. I'm a bit suspicious as I've never heard that the influenza vaccine depresses the immune system. I'd also like to know things like who did the study and what their sampling size was, etc. :shrug:

Personally I'v found that some of those that are comparing COVID-19 to influenza and being outrage over the # of influenza deaths are some of the same people who are in the anti-vax camp and not likely to get the vaccine for COVID-19 when it comes out.  **nononono*
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3233 on: March 24, 2020, 10:49:04 pm »
When I received the first census demand I completed it that same day via the Internet. That was at least several days ago. And yesterday I received a second notice to do it... What?

Same here.  I threw my second notice out.  Not doing it twice. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3234 on: March 24, 2020, 10:55:36 pm »
My County (Mohave, AZ) gets an "F."  12% change in traveling.  Oh, we are all zeros, in cases, recoveries and fatalities.  We're like, "What pandemic?"  It's still bad for business.

I have no idea how such data can be gathered with any reliability.

San Bernardino County near you is the largest in the lower 48. Much of it sparsely populated, part of it  fairly densely populated in the wide Lost Angeles metro area.

That county portrays my father's law of statistics "the average person, has one tit, and one testicle" Ever heard a college grad that he learned that in university years?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3235 on: March 24, 2020, 10:56:21 pm »
I saw some blurb about this but can't find a link. I'm a bit suspicious as I've never heard that the influenza vaccine depresses the immune system. I'd also like to know things like who did the study and what their sampling size was, etc. :shrug:

Personally I'v found that some of those that are comparing COVID-19 to influenza and being outrage over the # of influenza deaths are some of the same people who are in the anti-vax camp and not likely to get the vaccine for COVID-19 when it comes out.  **nononono*
By the time a vaccine comes out for this coronavirus, it is likely that a vast portion of the population will have been exposed. I honestly believe treatment will have been refined by that point, and a vaccine will be more or less moot. YMMV.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3236 on: March 24, 2020, 10:57:13 pm »
I have no idea how such data can be gathered with any reliability.

San Bernardino County near you is the largest in the lower 48. Much of it sparsely populated, part of it  fairly densely populated in the wide Lost Angeles metro area.

That county portrays my father's law of statistics "the average person, has one tit, and one testicle" Ever heard a college grad that he learned that in university years?
And one ovary...
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3237 on: March 24, 2020, 11:08:13 pm »
Pennsylvania:
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...   The number of statewide cases increased by 207 overnight, taking the total number of them to 851, affecting 40 counties and including four new deaths, the state Health Department said.

"We expect to see these numbers to continue to increase every day, state Health Department Secretary Rachel Levine said during a livestream update on the illness Tuesday afternoon. "It remains a public health crisis."

Levine said there isn't a treatment for COVID-19 other than drinking fluids, taking acetaminophen for fever, staying at home and resting.  ...
source

Is that all the doctors in Pennsylvania are doing?

BTW, just for the fun of it, here's "Rachel":

Yeah, he's a guy, so ....
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3238 on: March 24, 2020, 11:22:19 pm »
At present, doctors are permitted to prescribe Chloroquine off-label (= for other than it's approved use). So Health Department Secretary Rachel Levine is technically correct but factually less than correct. It's a "definition of 'is'" thingy.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3239 on: March 24, 2020, 11:37:03 pm »
At present, doctors are permitted to prescribe Chloroquine off-label (= for other than it's approved use). So Health Department Secretary Rachel Levine is technically correct but factually less than correct. It's a "definition of 'is'" thingy.

She doesn't want to be accused of telling people to drink Drano.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3240 on: March 24, 2020, 11:40:41 pm »
BTW, just for the fun of it, here's "Rachel":

Yeah, he's a guy, so ....
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« Reply #3241 on: March 24, 2020, 11:48:13 pm »
Married? or just hasn't found the right... :pondering:...*hmmmm*...*bouche*...  888what
Sorry, but I'm a mite skeptical of health information from the apparently gender confused.
Hydroxychloroquine (Plaquenil) and Azithromycin (Zithromax) have apparently shown some serious potential as a treatment for COVID-19 when used together, but there isn't much in the MSM.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/therapeutic-options.html

Remdesivir is also being tested

Underlying conditions which cause vulnerability to the disease are noted here (worth a read):

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/underlying-conditions.html

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3242 on: March 25, 2020, 08:27:29 am »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/03/24/trump-coronavirus-congress-economic-stimulus/

Senate, White House reach $2 trillion stimulus deal to blunt coronavirus fallout

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The legislation, unprecedented in its size and scope, aims to flood the economy with capital by sending $1,200 checks to many Americans, creating a $367 billion loan program for small businesses and setting up a $500 billion fund for industries, cities and states.

Other provisions include a massive boost to unemployment insurance, $150 billion for state and local stimulus funds and $130 billion for hospitals.

McConnell said the Senate would pass the legislation later Wednesday. With the House out of session, action there could take longer, depending on whether lawmakers can agree to pass the bill by “unanimous consent,” which would require agreement from all members of the chamber.

Tuesday began with all parties predicting a deal would be imminent, along with a vote by Tuesday evening. But as the hours dragged on multiple disputes arose and legislative language required close review.

Finally, as midnight neared Tuesday, the pace of shuttle diplomacy picked up on the second floor of the Capitol, as Mnuchin, White House legislative affairs director Eric Ueland and newly named White House chief of staff, Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), met alternately with McConnell and Schumer, who was in frequent contact with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

More at link...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3243 on: March 25, 2020, 10:41:50 am »

Coronavirus: Prince Charles tests positive for COVID-19




Clarence House said: "The Prince of Wales has tested positive for Coronavirus.

"He has been displaying mild symptoms but otherwise remains in good health and has been working from home throughout the last few days as usual.

"The Duchess of Cornwall has also been tested but does not have the virus. In accordance with Government and medical advice, the Prince and the Duchess are now self-isolating at home in Scotland.

"The tests were carried out by the NHS in Aberdeenshire where they met the criteria required for testing.






https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-prince-charles-tests-positive-for-covid-19-11963363


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