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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #50 on: January 16, 2020, 10:58:48 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 16, 2020, 10:34:39 pm
Breaking the law in order to dig up political dirt, then covering up the crime.  Same as Nixon had the good sense to resign over.

Nixon took the easy way out.  He should have fought the bastards.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #51 on: January 16, 2020, 11:04:01 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 10:58:45 pm
I wish you could explain to us what law the President broke.

Irrelevant!
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #52 on: January 16, 2020, 11:04:41 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 16, 2020, 10:58:48 pm
Nixon took the easy way out.  He should have fought the bastards.

Nixon broke the law.  Trump didn't.
Nixon was digging up political dirt.  Trump wasn't.
Nixon tried to cover up the crime.  Trump isn't covering up anything.
Nixon was never impeached.  Trump was.

Other than that, the remaining points are exactly the same.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #53 on: January 16, 2020, 11:08:32 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 11:04:41 pm
Nixon broke the law.  Trump didn't.
Nixon was digging up political dirt.  Trump wasn't.
Nixon tried to cover up the crime.  Trump isn't covering up anything.
Nixon was never impeached.  Trump was.

Other than that, the remaining points are exactly the same.

Let me say again.  Nixon took the easy way out.  He should have fought the bastards.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #54 on: January 16, 2020, 11:09:18 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on January 16, 2020, 11:04:01 pm
Irrelevant!

2 U.S. Code § 683

Any candidate who receives more electoral votes than Hillary Clinton in a Presidential election is considered in violation of this statute and guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors against the Democrat Party.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #55 on: January 16, 2020, 11:12:45 pm »
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #56 on: January 16, 2020, 11:13:10 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 11:09:18 pm
2 U.S. Code § 683

Any candidate who receives more electoral votes than Hillary Clinton in a Presidential election is considered in violation of this statute and guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors against the Democrat Party.

That sums it up nicely.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #58 on: January 16, 2020, 11:18:29 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on January 16, 2020, 11:08:32 pm
Let me say again.  Nixon took the easy way out.  He should have fought the bastards.

I hear you.  I just don't think it would have worked because of bastards like John Dean.  Bottom line, breaking into DNC offices when George McGovern is their candidate is just plain stupid.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #59 on: January 16, 2020, 11:20:23 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 11:18:29 pm
I hear you.  I just don't think it would have worked because of bastards like John Dean.  Bottom line, getting caught breaking into DNC offices when George McGovern is their candidate is just plain stupid.

fixed, but yeah...
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #60 on: January 16, 2020, 11:20:35 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 16, 2020, 11:12:45 pm
https://congress.gov/116/bills/hres755/BILLS-116hres755rh.pdf

That's really beautiful and all.  Now, can you please explain to us what law the President broke?  And please don't insult us by doing what liberals do.  Instead of posting a link, how about using your brain, applying some critical thought, and actually write a few sentences making your case.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #61 on: January 16, 2020, 11:20:45 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on January 16, 2020, 11:15:05 pm
Thus explaining your puzzlement.
What makes you think I'm puzzled?  I'm just saddened.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #62 on: January 16, 2020, 11:31:02 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 11:20:35 pm
That's really beautiful and all.  Now, can you please explain to us what law the President broke?  And please don't insult us by doing what liberals do.  Instead of posting a link, how about using your brain, applying some critical thought, and actually write a few sentences making your case.

He withheld appropriations to leverage Ukraine to dig up political dirt and lied about it to America.  It's like I'm talking to a wall.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #63 on: January 16, 2020, 11:33:50 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 16, 2020, 11:31:02 pm
He withheld appropriations to leverage Ukraine to dig up political dirt and lied about it to America.  It's like I'm talking to a wall.

Again, can you please explain to us what law the President broke?
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2020, 11:34:57 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 16, 2020, 11:31:02 pm
He withheld appropriations to leverage Ukraine to dig up political dirt and lied about it to America.  It's like I'm talking to a wall.

You are litigating the Impeachment.  This is another matter, because it's not included in the Articles sent over.  Too bad Pelosi would not take the time to develop this aspect.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #65 on: January 16, 2020, 11:35:26 pm »
To their credit, the GAO actually came up with a statute.  Not that it had anything to do with Trump, but at least they cited an actual law.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #66 on: January 16, 2020, 11:38:22 pm »
A general comment about the Original Topic (remember that?):  The headline screams "Trump broke the law!"  And people dutifully envision an armed robbery.  I remind all readers of this Overtime Parking is also "breaking the law."   So is literal Jaywalking.

The article is engaging in hyperbole, and we're talking about it like it's a serious issue, that's Impeachable.  Focus!!
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #67 on: January 16, 2020, 11:42:38 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 16, 2020, 11:38:22 pm
A general comment about the Original Topic (remember that?):  The headline screams "Trump broke the law!"  And people dutifully envision an armed robbery.  I remind all readers of this Overtime Parking is also "breaking the law."   So is literal Jaywalking.

The article is engaging in hyperbole, and we're talking about it like it's a serious issue, that's Impeachable.  Focus!!

And if anyone actually read the GAO report, they would find that it was OMB that "broke the law" - not Trump.

So let's nail the bastards!  How dare they delay paying out funds for an entire week without notifying Congress first!  Who in the hell does Mulvaney think he is?  He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and then be handed the maximum sentence for this infraction, which is  .  .  .  oh wait, there isn't one.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #68 on: January 16, 2020, 11:44:24 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 16, 2020, 11:42:38 pm
And if anyone actually read the GAO report, they would find that it was OMB that "broke the law" - not Trump.

So let's nail the bastards!  How dare they delay paying out funds for an entire week without notifying Congress first!  Who in the hell does Mulvaney think he is?  He should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and then be handed the maximum sentence for this infraction, which is  .  .  .  oh wait, there isn't one.

That's it.  It's less than a parking ticket.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #69 on: January 16, 2020, 11:46:57 pm »
This is Brian Cates, he switches his name around on twitter but he tweeted:
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RussiaGate Was Fake! SpyGate Is Real!

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Did you know Trump temporarily held up the funds to check out the newly installed Zelensky admin., then once they passed muster, he released the funds to Ukraine **before** the date Congress had set?


https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1217870617430675456

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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #70 on: January 17, 2020, 12:14:09 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 16, 2020, 11:34:57 pm
You are litigating the Impeachment.  This is another matter, because it's not included in the Articles sent over.  Too bad Pelosi would not take the time to develop this aspect.
Too bad the OJ prosecutors screwed up.  Doesn't make OJ innocent.  Trump is a very bad person and a bad President.  He broke the law as stated in the headline above for bad reasons.  Then he lied about it, and continues to lie about it.  I can't make it more simple why I think he should be punished.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #71 on: January 17, 2020, 12:17:27 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 17, 2020, 12:14:09 am
Too bad the OJ prosecutors screwed up.  Doesn't make OJ innocent.  Trump is a very bad person and a bad President.  He broke the law as stated in the headline above for bad reasons.  Then he lied about it, and continues to lie about it.  I can't make it more simple why I think he should be punished.

I'm clear on that.  We are supposed to have a government of laws, and that's what counts.  The laws are pointing away from Trump guilt.  Just as with OJ.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #72 on: January 17, 2020, 12:19:52 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 17, 2020, 12:14:09 am
Trump is a very bad person and a bad President.  He broke the law as stated in the headline above for bad reasons.

What law?
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #73 on: January 17, 2020, 12:20:42 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on January 17, 2020, 12:14:09 am
Too bad the OJ prosecutors screwed up.  Doesn't make OJ innocent.  Trump is a very bad person and a bad President.  He broke the law as stated in the headline above for bad reasons.  Then he lied about it, and continues to lie about it.  I can't make it more simple why I think he should be punished.
Shouldn’t you want to wait for the actual trial to conclude first? Since you cited the rats impeachment articles as proof of guilt.
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Re: BREAKING>>GAO finds Trump administration broke law by withholding aid from Ukraine
« Reply #74 on: January 17, 2020, 12:22:36 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 17, 2020, 12:17:27 am
I'm clear on that.  We are supposed to have a government of laws, and that's what counts.  The laws are pointing away from Trump guilt.  Just as with OJ.

I'm really sick (to death) of the bullshit and lies from the idiot effing left (here).  I really need to take a break from it all.

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