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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2020, 11:34:13 pm »
The problem is that the Dems aren't so much globalist corporate cronies. They are Marxists, using Islamists and others for Global Socialism (Communism/Totalitarianism, let's call it what it is.).

The Global Corporatists are on the Right, calling themselves "moderates", and Conservatives, in the sense of the Declaration and the Constitution are farther to the Right. The GOP is on the boundary between the  Global Corporatists and the Conservatives, and ever teetering toward globalism That's the Bush Bunch, and GHWB's "New World Order" of Crony Capitalists and the hordes of "moderates" who got elected by lying to the TEA party folks, among others. Who doesn't play their game is sidelined, even if it gets Doug Jones elected.

There isn't anyone on the side of Conservatism out there, with maybe one or two exceptions. All we can do is hope and work to push any momentum to the Right farther along, past Global Corporatism.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2020, 11:35:49 pm »
SOSDD... For FIFTY YEARS.
I won't argue with that, but if we're going to climb that hill, we have to stop losing ground.
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2020, 11:39:33 pm »
I won't argue with that, but if we're going to climb that hill, we have to stop losing ground.

In the midst of a Hegelian Dialectic on the horns of a dilemma - An Hobson's choice followed at best by a Pyrrhic victory.

How the hell AIN'T that losing ground?

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2020, 11:44:30 pm »
I see where you are at @Smokin Joe , but there;s a lot of sign on the ground that ain't being read.

Like every Conservative of note either disappeared through the administrations revolving door cabinet, or publicly defamed... There are literally almost none left. And that wasn't the liberals doing that. The cabinet finally installed, coincidentally overflowing with more Goldmann Sachs that Cruz could have ever managed.

Nearly ALL of the moves that ain't flat out lies by this administration are nothing but EOs which will vanish like a fart in a windstorm. Just like with Dubya, not only will the candy store close, but it will be MOAB'd into extinction the minute this admin crosses the threshhold for the last time.

The things we DO get to keep, to the best of my knowledge, are the things good for globalism.

That's the sign on the ground I see. Baby steps toward Conservatism my a$$. This is just more globalism wrapped in patriotic MAGA bullcrap.

We also get to keep the trillions of new debt for the rest of our lives and all the consequences that come with it.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2020, 11:52:09 pm »
We also get to keep the trillions of new debt for the rest of our lives and all the consequences that come with it.

That's dang well right, and by design, I would say.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2020, 12:12:30 am »
That is a thing. Not a principle.

I will admit that where Conservative policies meet the necessities of corporate globalism, they are used and lauded. But the principle behind them is what I am fighting for. And not for globalism's sake.
How about a principle of non-interference with private companies by reducing regulations sufficiently that allows technology and capitalistic processes to ferment to the stage that companies can expand the boundaries of known ways to produce oil and significantly and exponentially produce so much oil that we have a surplus that permits export instead of import?  The big bonus for citizens is low energy prices.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2020, 12:14:58 am »
How about a principle of non-interference with private companies by reducing regulations sufficiently that allows technology and capitalistic processes to ferment to the stage that companies can expand the boundaries of known ways to produce oil and significantly and exponentially produce so much oil that we have a surplus that permits export instead of import?  The big bonus for citizens is low energy prices.

Howabout a gigantic discovery in the Bakken having very little to do with Tump?

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2020, 12:17:56 am »
Some of those policy changes may not hold if the Marxists get back in office. In the meantime, they can't rip the pipelines out of the ground, put the oil or natural gas back. They can't resurrect Al-Baghdadi or Soleimani, there are things that can't be undone. Some of the AntiAmerican operatives who have exposed themselves can't take it back, will not fit back beneath the rock, and all the poo flinging just gets them mad enough that they do expose themselves, not just to us, but to everyone. That works whether they were FBI, DOJ, or in Congress or elsewhere in the administration. They might get nice side jobs elsewhere, some may keeptheir current jobs for a bit, but it would be a stretch for them to get their old jobs back in the event that the Marxists do not regain power soon.
What I devoutly hope, is that America sees a clearly better course of action and continues in the direction of Conservativism, rather than turns back down the Leftist path we have been on for so long.
What I mean by that is these are baby steps in the right direction for a change, we have a long way left to go. You're gonna step in some mud on the way out of the swamp, but if you keep heading out, you'll get to better ground.

The policies will sell the principles, if we don't lose track of that. If the policies fall short of that direction, I won't support them.

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You are wasting your time. You will never convince anyone that doesn't want to be convinced. There will ALWAYS be a "yeah,but.....".
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2020, 12:21:08 am »
You are wasting your time. You will never convince anyone that doesn't want to be convinced. There will ALWAYS be a "yeah,but.....".

There ya go.
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2020, 12:27:52 am »
The problem is that the Dems aren't so much globalist corporate cronies. They are Marxists, using Islamists and others for Global Socialism (Communism/Totalitarianism, let's call it what it is.).



@Smokin Joe

Labels don't work anymore now that the far left and the far right have merged into "Worldwide Government Incorporated".

It's ALL about control and economics now,and personal freedoms for anyone BUT the ruling class is considered to be an absurd concept by BY the ruling class.

Soros and Bloomberg are just two examples of this. Both have billions,and both are Communists that want to be dictators. Yet both CLAIM to be democrats.

What do you have when you mix communism and greed? You have Fascism/Nazism. Even the Communists and the Nazi's recogonized this basic truth in the late 30's,and they became allies.

The uncomfortable truth nobody wants to admit or even talk about is that at this late date,damned if the Nazi's didn't win,and a large percentage of them are Jewish. Who would have ever believed that would happen in 1945?

I guess what we need are new labels that are PC,yet truthful. Providing of course The Ministry of Truth will allow it.
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2020, 12:45:47 am »
There ya go.
Click your heels Dorothy, and only believe...
There's no place like home...
There's no place like home...
But that was the Hollywood version. In the book she shuffled across the deadly sands on a rug.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2020, 12:56:17 am »
In the book she shuffled across the deadly sands on a rug.

My dog does that sometimes.  **nononono* :whistle:

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2020, 12:59:01 am »
My dog does that sometimes.  **nononono* :whistle:

 :silly:

That image always cracked me up, so long as it wasn't in my house...

 :shrug: :whistle: :silly:
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2020, 01:02:36 am »
That image always cracked me up, so long as it wasn't in my house...

 :shrug: :whistle: :silly:

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2020, 01:06:18 am »
Just one then others can fill in the blanks.

We are exporting more oil than ever.  Conservative policies.  Lot of money involved, which you seem to appreciate if nothing else.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2020, 01:06:30 am »
Howabout a gigantic discovery in the Bakken having very little to do with Tump?
You do not even know enough to get it right.

No discovery was made in the Bakken.

It was how to exploit it.  And allowing pipelines to be constructed and environmental restrictions dampened certainly help exploit as timelines changed and costs were reduced.

There is a confidence factor that includes Trump's actions by industry.

It will not make any difference to you.

A Never Trumper will never admit Trump did anything anyway.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2020, 01:10:31 am »
It will not make any difference to you.

A Never Trumper will never admit Trump did anything anyway.

That's bullcrap. I have given him credit from time to time. When it was earned.



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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2020, 01:34:19 am »
Interesting thread.  NO ONE IN MEDIA IS BEING FORCED TO COVER PRESIDENT TRUMP.    Media is doing THAT,  all by themselves.
President TRUMP can't be blamed for their behaviors.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2020, 01:34:32 am »
That's bullcrap. I have given him credit from time to time. When it was earned.
The time you complimented his suit does not count.
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2020, 01:36:34 am »
Interesting thread.  NO ONE IN MEDIA IS BEING FORCED TO COVER PRESIDENT TRUMP.    Media is doing THAT,  all by themselves.
President TRUMP can't be blamed for their behaviors.
and that response is why you are not to be included in the being stupid category as another poster declared.
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2020, 01:37:13 am »
You do not even know enough to get it right.

No discovery was made in the Bakken.

It was how to exploit it.  And allowing pipelines to be constructed and environmental restrictions dampened certainly help exploit as timelines changed and costs were reduced.

There is a confidence factor that includes Trump's actions by industry.

It will not make any difference to you.

A Never Trumper will never admit Trump did anything anyway.

Do you need a donation for bullets for that rifle?


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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2020, 01:39:04 am »
The time you complimented his suit does not count.

That really is not right. Or fair.

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2020, 01:43:44 am »
That really is not right. Or fair.

But it was funny as shit!
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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2020, 01:47:21 am »
But it was funny as shit!

Really? I thought it rather pedestrian... Other than the hilarity of suits in the first place...

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Re: David Brooks: 'Trump Has Made Us All Stupid'
« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2020, 01:49:11 am »
But it was funny as shit!
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