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 â€˜We want to be a no-kill state.’ Newsom calls for end to animal euthanasia in California

By Andrew Sheeler
January 10, 2020 01:08 PM

Gov. Gavin Newsom wants California to stop euthanizing animals, and he’s ready to put taxpayer money toward the cause.

“We want to be a no-kill state,” Newsom said during a press conference where he presented his 2020-21 budget.

Specifically, Newsom’s budget calls for a $50 million one-time general fund allocation to the UC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine Program to develop a grant program for animal shelters, with a goal of helping local communities “achieve the state’s policy goal that no adoptable or treatable dog or cat should be euthanized,” according to the budget summary.

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He has been poontangin around with those showfolk fagers for so long now it doesn't surpise me he'd  save a dog and yet, kill a baby human.
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Specifically, Newsom’s budget calls for a $50 million one-time general fund allocation to the UC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine Program to develop a grant program for animal shelters, with a goal of helping local communities “achieve the state’s policy goal that no adoptable or treatable dog or cat should be euthanized,” according to the budget summary.

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That is a good idea. PLEASE take note of the words in bold. Also,consider that in many,and AFAIK,all animal shelters,they have a policy of spaying or neutering any animal they put up for adoption.
 
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Treatable? Most anything is 'treatable', and a lot of money could bee pumped into prolonging the agony of some poor critter (and a lot made along the way) before it finally succumbs to whatever condition it's condition is in).

But humans??


Nah, those get killed for minor inconvenience, and not humanely, either.

If the governor's goal was to come up with the most insane policy, he may be in a near dead heat with Virginia's governor, but I think he might prevail.
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Treatable? Most anything is 'treatable', and a lot of money could bee pumped into prolonging the agony of some poor critter (and a lot made along the way) before it finally succumbs to whatever condition it's condition is in).

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So,your solution is to allow healthy animals that could be adopted be put to death to make sure that doesn't happen?

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But humans??

Humans are rarely put up for adoption at animal shelters,and frankly,it is a little insulting to animals to suggest such a thing.


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My suburban Calif town of 200,000 takes animals to the County run shelter, which DOES kill.

We also have a non kill shelter, operated by the Humane Society.

S fair number of animals are likely euthanized, for lack of an adoption.

My daughter, wife and I have never paid for our pets, opting to adopt.

When they get olld, we take them to a private vet, to put them out of their increasing discomfort.

We note, there are abundant young  big breeds, like Pits, when families realize they can't handle them.
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So,your solution is to allow healthy animals that could be adopted be put to death to make sure that doesn't happen?
I never said anything of the kind. Adopt away.
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Humans are rarely put up for adoption at animal shelters,and frankly,it is a little insulting to animals to suggest such a thing.
I never knew of any humans put up for adoption at animal shelters.

The practice, iirc, in California, is to permit the wholesale dismembering of unwanted humans so long as it is conducted under state approved circumstances, i.e. prior to natural birth. I understand some are even put up for adoption, too.
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I never said anything of the kind. Adopt away. I never knew of any humans put up for adoption at animal shelters.

The practice, iirc, in California, is to permit the wholesale dismembering of unwanted humans so long as it is conducted under state approved circumstances, i.e. prior to natural birth. I understand some are even put up for adoption, too.

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The story had nothing to do with abortion.
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The story had nothing to do with abortion.
FFS. You can't put own a puppy in CAA, but you can slaughter babies. Just pointing out the insanity of the Left coast.
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FFS. You can't put own a puppy in CAA, but you can slaughter babies. Just pointing out the insanity of the Left coast.

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I am with you on "convenience abortions",but this is apples and oranges.
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The story had nothing to do with abortion.

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C'mon pete.  Joe is commenting on the policy makers and their grotesque way of looking at things. 
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C'mon pete.  Joe is commenting on the policy makers and their grotesque way of looking at things.

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I  have no doubt it seems that way to you and @Smokin Joe ,but to me it didn't.
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I  have no doubt it seems that way to you and @Smokin Joe ,but to me it didn't.
I see it this way. California is FUBAR. (I'm sure you know that term).
I was just pointing out the disparity between their policy toward animals vs humans. My bad.
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No Kill shelters seem like a nice idea, except when supply/demand issues forces the shelter into bleeding money.  90% of the ones I have witnessed have failed.

Can you imagine doing this on the scale of the entire state of CA? 

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No Kill shelters seem like a nice idea, except when supply/demand issues forces the shelter into bleeding money.  90% of the ones I have witnessed have failed.

Can you imagine doing this on the scale of the entire state of CA?

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It works because they is a nationwide chain they use to get rid of excess animals when there are too many in one spot.

Also,it's not really all that hard to get rid of tame cats or most dogs that have all their shots and have been "fixed". Yeah,dogs like Great Danes or pit bulls can be a little harder to find homes for,but for most dogs it's not a problem.

The last two cats I got from an animal shelter had been in the house of a hoarder,and I had to be talked into taking them. My old house cats had died of old age,and I needed a couple of cats to keep the mice and snakes away,so I went to the local SPCA. At that time they really didn't have any that could be adopted,other than the father and daughter Tuxedo cats they talked me into taking. The old tom was hiding in the part of the cage with the litter box,and had his nose stuck in a corner and was trembling in fear. Nothing I could do would get him to look at me. Not even when I picked him up and turned him to face me. He closed his eyes to avoid eye contact.

The daughter wasn't much better. She was laying in the cage by the door,and would just stare with the saddest eyes,looking like she wanted to die.

Against my better judgement I paid the money and took them both home because they were the only cats there that hadn't already been spoken for. Took a couple of weeks  to gain their trust,but they finally came around and were very nice,friendly cats. The old Tom only lasted a few months. One night I heard him jump up on the counter where the cat food dish was,and then I heard him moan and hit the floor. He was dead by the time I got to him. I think his heart just gave out.

His daughter is laying a couple of feet from me now,sleeping. She is very gentle and very loving. For some odd reason she never purrs,though. She does like to jump on my chest when I am laying down,and rub her checks up against my chin and nose,though.

All is all,I am glad I let the shelter people talk me into taking them.
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