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by Paul Bedard
 | January 02, 2020 11:47 AM
Virginia’s pop-up gun sanctuary movement has turned its attention to fighting the governor’s call for a $4.8 million, 18-officer team to enforce his proposed “assault weapons” ban.

Two key groups issued an alert this week to push gun owners to four budget hearings Thursday around the state, asking them to quiz state legislators if they will vote to ban or confiscate weapons.

“We understand that this is short notice. But it would have a significant impact if many of our members could show up and make a 3-minute statement and ask questions of the legislators in attendance,” said the Virginia Citizens Defense League.

“We see in the governor’s proposed budget that he wants $4 million and 18 new law-enforcement positions to enforce a ban on commonly-owned firearms,” said Erich Pratt, Gun Owners of America senior vice president.

Over 150 people in Blacksburg for the public hearing on @GovernorVA’s proposed budget. Most people in the room are here — following a call put out by gun rights group VCDL — to speak about money in Northam’s budget to support implementation of gun control. pic.twitter.com/G32p7AEC8D

— Amy Friedenberger (@AJFriedenberger) January 2, 2020
“Gun owners want to know: Is this money going to be used for the gun confiscation?” he added.

Both groups have been key in the surprising success of the organic gun sanctuary movement in Virginia that was prompted when Gov. Ralph Northam said he’d back sweeping gun control legislation after Democrats took control of the legislature in the 2019 elections.

The election surprised gun owners and prompted them to subsequently flood town and county meetings to demand that local lawmakers OK sanctuary resolutions to ignore Richmond’s gun control urge.

A surprising 91% of all state....

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/virginia-governors-call-for-18-person-gun-ban-force-comes-under-fire

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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2020, 01:54:24 PM »
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The election surprised gun owners....
Maybe they shoulda voted.... Northam, et al have been bragging about this for years...

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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2020, 02:25:14 PM »
Maybe they shoulda voted.... Northam, et al have been bragging about this for years...

You can bet the house that they WILL be voting in 2020!

The Democrats ALWAYS overreach.

They should have kept their mouths closed until 2021.

And if they pull a televised raid for ratings where somebody gets killed, Virginia Democrat politicians and their families won't dare go out in public.

A fuse will be lit.   

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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2020, 05:50:05 PM »
DC Patriot wrote:
"You can bet the house that they WILL be voting in 2020!"

2020 is going to be "too late" for at least some Virginia citizens.

It looks like the democrat-communists are REALLY going to try this in the Old Dominion.
How far will they get?

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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2020, 06:00:03 PM »
You can bet the house that they WILL be voting in 2020!

The Democrats ALWAYS overreach.

They should have kept their mouths closed until 2021.

And if they pull a televised raid for ratings where somebody gets killed, Virginia Democrat politicians and their families won't dare go out in public.

A fuse will be lit.
I would suspect that if the bills actually pass, there will be a dozen lawsuits filed within hours requesting a stay while the case works its way thru the courts.

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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2020, 07:51:26 PM »
SO the Governor is going to hire a goon squad to do his dirty work.

Why am I not surprised.

At some point, at some place, people will figure out they can surround the goon squad.

Then what?

BITS. That's what, and that's what these communist agitators want, so they can point to it and proclaim that they were right.

Actually, this is only proving the Founders right, in that they anticipated this sort of tyranny.
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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2020, 08:15:39 AM »
Maybe they shoulda voted.... Northam, et al have been bragging about this for years...
Less than 31% of the registered voters came out last time.
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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2020, 08:33:25 AM »
You can bet the house that they WILL be voting in 2020!

The Democrats ALWAYS overreach.

They should have kept their mouths closed until 2021.

And if they pull a televised raid for ratings where somebody gets killed, Virginia Democrat politicians and their families won't dare go out in public.

A fuse will be lit.

Trump's likely the luckiest man in politics,  to have the enemies he has.   Can even Virginia flip red?   It's all a question of voter motivation, and this gun confiscation thing is going to get every gunowner in Virginia off his ass.   
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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2020, 10:55:46 AM »
You can bet the house that they WILL be voting in 2020!

The Democrats ALWAYS overreach.

They should have kept their mouths closed until 2021.

And if they pull a televised raid for ratings where somebody gets killed, Virginia Democrat politicians and their families won't dare go out in public.

A fuse will be lit.

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No kidding! Northam just about guaranteed Va will vote for Trump in 2020.
It takes an special kind of "Stoopid" to make Trump look like a defenseless victim and gain public sympathy,but damned if the Dims didn't pull it off!

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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2020, 10:58:06 AM »
SO the Governor is going to hire a goon squad to do his dirty work.

Why am I not surprised.

At some point, at some place, people will figure out they can surround the goon squad.

Then what?


@Smokin Joe

Then those people suddenly come into possession of big-buck fully-automatic weapons,high-dollar handguns,and badges.
It takes an special kind of "Stoopid" to make Trump look like a defenseless victim and gain public sympathy,but damned if the Dims didn't pull it off!

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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2020, 11:09:41 AM »
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Then those people suddenly come into possession of big-buck fully-automatic weapons,high-dollar handguns,and badges.
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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2020, 01:01:16 PM »
I thought the Dems were going to send out the National Guard? Guessing they found out they didn't have the authority to pull off their jackboot fantasies, so hence the state goon squad.
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« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2020, 01:03:10 PM »
I thought the Dems were going to send out the National Guard? Guessing they found out they didn't have the authority to pull off their jackboot fantasies, so hence the state goon squad.
Wanna bet they're mercenaries?
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« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2020, 06:00:41 PM »
Wanna bet they're mercenaries?

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Mercenaries aren't stupid. They don't fight if they know they are going to lose. There is no money to be made when you are dead.

They will hire sociopaths and sadists employed by a private contractor,and they will be former cops who were fired for police brutality. They will then swear them in as some sort of deputies,and give them  badges. People that would work for free if you promised to give them full-auto weapons and a pass on shooting anyone they wanted to shoot.

This will happen because no one else will take the job.

What nobody seems to be taking into consideration is how many combat vets and hunters who are used to killing and blood that live in southern states like Virginia. If you shoot ONE of them,every freaking relative they have will "gun up" and come after your ass,regardless of what kind of badge you have or who gave you a blessing.

Gangbangers kill people by accident because they are not used to either shooting or killing,and for the most part their shootings are a part of their "Ahm a bad-ass,yes ah am,yes,ah am!",never mind they accidentally killed a 3 year old instead of the gangbanger they were supposedly after.

That won't be the case with these people. Many of them can shoot your eye out at 100 yards,and pick the eye. They don't shoot to make a pose as a "bad man" or to scare anyone,they shoot to hit what they are shooting at.

These posers with their full-auto Uzi's don't scare me,but a old man with a Model 70 Winchester he has owned and shot for 40+ years does if I think he is going to shoot at me.

There is a WORLD of difference in being shot and being shot AT. Trust me on this one.

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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2020, 08:42:00 PM »
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Mercenaries aren't stupid. They don't fight if they know they are going to lose. There is no money to be made when you are dead.

They will hire sociopaths and sadists employed by a private contractor,and they will be former cops who were fired for police brutality. They will then swear them in as some sort of deputies,and give them  badges. People that would work for free if you promised to give them full-auto weapons and a pass on shooting anyone they wanted to shoot.

This will happen because no one else will take the job.

What nobody seems to be taking into consideration is how many combat vets and hunters who are used to killing and blood that live in southern states like Virginia. If you shoot ONE of them,every freaking relative they have will "gun up" and come after your ass,regardless of what kind of badge you have or who gave you a blessing.

Gangbangers kill people by accident because they are not used to either shooting or killing,and for the most part their shootings are a part of their "Ahm a bad-ass,yes ah am,yes,ah am!",never mind they accidentally killed a 3 year old instead of the gangbanger they were supposedly after.

That won't be the case with these people. Many of them can shoot your eye out at 100 yards,and pick the eye. They don't shoot to make a pose as a "bad man" or to scare anyone,they shoot to hit what they are shooting at.

These posers with their full-auto Uzi's don't scare me,but a old man with a Model 70 Winchester he has owned and shot for 40+ years does if I think he is going to shoot at me.

There is a WORLD of difference in being shot and being shot AT. Trust me on this one.
Well, in the last part, you are echoing a guy who was sheriff here for a while. He said that some punk with an AK who practiced 'spray and pray' didn't worry him near as much as a pissed off farmer or rancher with a deer rifle. Chances are the former would miss, but the latter would hit his target and they'd never hear the shot that got them. For that matter, 100 yards is warmup range here, 3oo is more the limit for a humane hit on deer/antelope. Considering a dinner plate, the kill zone on a deer, and the human head are of similar size, there is a nation of sharpshooters, and some folks who pride themselves (rightfully) at being able to hit that spot at 500+ to 1000 yards with regularity, and have the rifles and ability to do so.

They also have a home turf advantage in the boonies, but need to be able to defeat overhead FLIR and thermal to keep it.
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Re: Virginia governor’s call for 18-person gun ban force comes under fire
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They also have a home turf advantage in the boonies, but need to be able to defeat overhead FLIR and thermal to keep it.

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They will have to go on the offensive to do that. Maybe with homemade explosives if they can't steal or otherwise obtain C4 and blasting caps. Don't waste time shooting down drones,although it could be more fun than shooting skeet. Go after the building where the drones are controlled from,and the people in the building.
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2020, 09:35:53 PM »
@Smokin Joe

They will have to go on the offensive to do that. Maybe with homemade explosives if they can't steal or otherwise obtain C4 and blasting caps. Don't waste time shooting down drones,although it could be more fun than shooting skeet. Go after the building where the drones are controlled from,and the people in the building.
Problem with that is they have to find out where. go ahead and take the little ones out. The real pro drones, like the predator, are flown from more secure locations half a world away.

But manned air assets would be vulnerable at some point--they have to land and refuel. Those POL points and muster areas would be vulnerable to the right form of attack.

Thinking, too, there has been a lot of mining in the west and nearby, so things that go boom might not be so hard to come by. I watched as a good powder monkey blew a rock the size of a small bus across two paved lanes, a deep fill (another lane not yet paved), out of a ditch line, in one chunk years ago. Armored vehicles might 'survive' such a trip, but the contents won't. Intel and IEDs make for a bad day, as many can testify.
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