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These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« on: December 30, 2019, 10:43:08 pm »
These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
by Naomi Lim
 | December 30, 2019 04:04 PM

It’s not unusual for a coterie of Republicans to criticize President Trump behind closed doors.

Republicans generally keep whatever misgiving they have about Trump to themselves. Public criticism by fellow Republicans over his three years in office has been rare.

But in 2019, a year that included Trump's impeachment on Dec. 18, some criticism of the president was public, even if much of it was fleeting and temporal rather than extended and sustained.

Here are seven Trump detractors from the last 12 months:

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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2019, 12:09:06 pm »

Michigan Rep. Justin Amash

Former Michigan Rep. Dave Trott

Oklahoma Sen. James Lankford

Utah Sen. Mitt Romney

Former Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake

Florida Rep. Francis Rooney

Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2019, 01:26:32 pm »
Kudos to those Republicans who are unafraid to offer constructive criticism of the President.    If you click on the article, at the bottom is a link to a list of times in the past year that Trump attacked his friends. 

Vote for Trump for tactical or ideological reasons.   But don't kid yourself that he displays such virtues as modesty and loyalty.   I will not be proud of my vote this year.   
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2019, 01:32:38 pm »
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2019, 05:16:36 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 31, 2019, 01:26:32 pm
Kudos to those Republicans who are unafraid to offer constructive criticism of the President.    If you click on the article, at the bottom is a link to a list of times in the past year that Trump attacked his friends. 

Vote for Trump for tactical or ideological reasons.   But don't kid yourself that he displays such virtues as modesty and loyalty.   I will not be proud of my vote this year.   

I don't consider Jeffy Flake's hairshirt criticism to be"constructive," which has a lot to do with why he's a "former" Senator.  He threw the dice when he decided to be an anti-Trumper, and lost.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2019, 05:56:29 pm »
Washington was broken way before Trump ever got there. And it is only because of his election to president that establishment Washington’s hubris showed the country just how corrupt, unethical and detached from everyday Americans it has become.

I don’t think we need to be cordial when confronting entrenched, corruptible politicians and bureaucrats, but rather we should attack them with outrage and with the truth and with strong words of condemnation—all of which President Trump justifiably does. And his supporters support him in that. We also knew it was never going to be pretty draining the swamp.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2019, 06:16:45 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on December 31, 2019, 05:56:29 pm
Washington was broken way before Trump ever got there. And it is only because of his election to president that establishment Washington’s hubris showed the country just how corrupt, unethical and detached from everyday Americans it has become.

I don’t think we need to be cordial when confronting entrenched, corruptible politicians and bureaucrats, but rather we should attack them with outrage and with the truth and with strong words of condemnation—all of which President Trump justifiably does. And his supporters support him in that. We also knew it was never going to be pretty draining the swamp.

Serious Republicans and conservatives ought to agree, we needed some disruptin to make meaningful changes in Wash. DC.

Surprise, your choice was another Dole, McCain or Romney.

Be greatful you got the much needed disruption, albeit in the unlikely vessel called Trump.

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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2019, 08:30:22 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on December 31, 2019, 05:56:29 pm
Washington was broken way before Trump ever got there. And it is only because of his election to president that establishment Washington’s hubris showed the country just how corrupt, unethical and detached from everyday Americans it has become.

I don’t think we need to be cordial when confronting entrenched, corruptible politicians and bureaucrats, but rather we should attack them with outrage and with the truth and with strong words of condemnation—all of which President Trump justifiably does. And his supporters support him in that. We also knew it was never going to be pretty draining the swamp.

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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2019, 08:38:51 pm »
I see no problem in "constructive" criticism of Trump or his behavior.  He is not a dictator, king, or an emperor. 

He OTOH, treats any adverse comment with revenge.  Is that a trait of a good leader?
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2019, 08:39:34 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 31, 2019, 01:26:32 pm
Kudos to those Republicans who are unafraid to offer constructive criticism of the President.    If you click on the article, at the bottom is a link to a list of times in the past year that Trump attacked his friends. 

Vote for Trump for tactical or ideological reasons.   But don't kid yourself that he displays such virtues as modesty and loyalty.  I will not be proud of my vote this year.   

GTFO!!!   LOL!!!

  'Apologizing' for voting for President Trump!   Go and post that on your Facebook timeline!  It's not necessary here.

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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2019, 08:43:23 pm »
Pretty mild list, Mitt's really the big name on the list, Lankford, that criticism is pretty mild.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2019, 08:54:22 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on December 31, 2019, 08:38:51 pm
I see no problem in "constructive" criticism of Trump or his behavior.  He is not a dictator, king, or an emperor. 

He OTOH, treats any adverse comment with revenge.  Is that a trait of a good leader?

Okay, he is notorious for striking back.

What did all the genteel Pub leaders ever get us?
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2019, 09:04:44 pm »
Quote from: bilo on December 31, 2019, 08:54:22 pm
Okay, he is notorious for striking back.

What did all the genteel Pub leaders ever get us?

No argument there, but i am the guy who considers Reagan and Coolidge as the only decent POTUS' in the past 100 years.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2019, 09:23:10 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on December 31, 2019, 09:04:44 pm
No argument there, but i am the guy who considers Reagan and Coolidge as the only decent POTUS' in the past 100 years.

"Silent Cal" always said he did his best governing while on the Golf Course, because he knew he could do the least amount of damage to the country there.  That's who we could use, after the swamp gets better drainage.  Until then, it's not going to be quiet nor pretty.  Loose the dogs of war!
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2019, 09:23:59 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on December 31, 2019, 09:04:44 pm
No argument there, but i am the guy who considers Reagan and Coolidge as the only decent POTUS' in the past 100 years.

I'm more familiar with Reagan. I would agree he was a heck of a good POTUS. He is why we won the cold war and the threat of global thermonuclear war was ended, that alone is a reason to consider him great. To your point he was a gentleman, but he did have an edge to his humor.  However, he did get taken advantage of on immigration, budget cuts, and abortion.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #15 on: December 31, 2019, 09:34:03 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on December 31, 2019, 09:23:10 pm
"Silent Cal" always said he did his best governing while on the Golf Course, because he knew he could do the least amount of damage to the country there.  That's who we could use, after the swamp gets better drainage.  Until then, it's not going to be quiet nor pretty. Loose the dogs of war!

If Trump wins re-election, Pubs keep the Senate and get the House majority, I would expect them to be more aggressive in attacking big issues than the country club/chamber of commerce Pubs were in 2016-18. The Rats have so radicalized themselves the push back should be decisive, there is no middle ground anymore. It's them or us.

It's really interesting how self destructive the radical Rats have become. My fear about Trump was that he would be to willing to "compromise" with the Rats on all the big issues, especially immigration. Instead of trying to find common ground with him, the Rats started plotting impeachment before he was even officially in office. All they did was harden his resolve to push his agenda.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2019, 09:44:33 pm »
Principle has absolutely nothing in common w/politics which is why
Principled Conservatism, which resonates from Plato's Republic, has
absolutely nothing in common w/republican politics, never had nor will.
Yet for some conflating the latter is an article of deaf, dumb and blind faith.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2019, 11:32:09 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on December 31, 2019, 09:04:44 pm
No argument there, but i am the guy who considers Reagan and Coolidge as the only decent POTUS' in the past 100 years.

Ronald Reagan hosting Death Valley Days and selling 20 Mule Team Borax gives him the edge.   
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2020, 09:49:32 pm »
I am a Trump supporter, and I know he has a caustic demeanor, but I do not hold that against him.  He can be ignorant beyond belief, and I do find that annoying, but as I told a Trump hater/family member recently, do not judge the man by what he says, judge him by what he does.  She responded, I do not care, I do not like him because of the way he addresses women.

I do not consider anything coming from these Republicans as constructive criticism.  And the worst is Romney.  He is such a weak sister, he could not beat Obama.  Nothing that man says is worth listening to.  He still has his eye on the White House, and I would not be surprised if he runs again in 2024.  Romney is the reason the likes of an AOC could get elected POTUS.  He has limited appeal, and he says things that are dumber than Biden.  He lost his election over that 47% comment.  What a knucklehead.

Dynasties are usually despised here in the USA, but I would not mind one of Trump's son's running in 2024.  Wouldn't that be a hoot to have one of the Trump son's taking on AOC!!!
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2020, 03:41:12 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on December 31, 2019, 01:26:32 pm
Kudos to those Republicans who are unafraid to offer constructive criticism of the President.

@Jazzhead

I agree with that.  The problem is that I don't think any of those listed critics actually believed their criticism would be constructive, or would help Trump at all.  I think they were deliberately trying to weaken/hurt Trump politically simply because they don't like him.

Those critics who were truly trying to be constructive likely gave most of their criticism in private, or behind the scenes.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2020, 04:01:58 pm »
Quote from: Maj. Bill Martin on January 02, 2020, 03:41:12 pm
@Jazzhead

I agree with that.  The problem is that I don't think any of those listed critics actually believed their criticism would be constructive, or would help Trump at all.  I think they were deliberately trying to weaken/hurt Trump politically simply because they don't like him.

Those critics who were truly trying to be constructive likely gave most of their criticism in private, or behind the scenes.

An absolutely crucial distinction. Glad you reminded us of it.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2020, 04:49:05 pm »
Quote from: aligncare on December 31, 2019, 05:56:29 pm
Washington was broken way before Trump ever got there. And it is only because of his election to president that establishment Washington’s hubris showed the country just how corrupt, unethical and detached from everyday Americans it has become.

I don’t think we need to be cordial when confronting entrenched, corruptible politicians and bureaucrats, but rather we should attack them with outrage and with the truth and with strong words of condemnation—all of which President Trump justifiably does. And his supporters support him in that. We also knew it was never going to be pretty draining the swamp.

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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2020, 04:53:29 pm »
Quote from: bilo on December 31, 2019, 08:54:22 pm
Okay, he is notorious for striking back.

What did all the genteel Pub leaders ever get us?

@bilo

And it is past time we had a President that WILL fight back.

This is a political war for the survival of America as a free nation,and you people are whining because we FINALLY have a President that is willing to fight back against Globalism and the people pimping the nation out to the Globalists?

One thing is a certainty. Nobody EVER won a war or an argument without fighting back or arguing to defend their cause.
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Re: These were the Republicans most critical of Trump in 2019
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2020, 04:58:51 pm »
Quote from: jafo2010 on January 01, 2020, 09:49:32 pm


Dynasties are usually despised here in the USA, but I would not mind one of Trump's son's running in 2024.  Wouldn't that be a hoot to have one of the Trump son's taking on AOC!!!

@jafo2010

NOT boarding that train yet. I know next to nothing about them.

PLUS,2024 is a long time away,and who knows who else will pop up to run when it rolls around? Or even what conditions will exist? We need to put ALL of our focus on 2020 because the survival of America as a free and independent nation literally relies on Trump winning.
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