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New Mexico to Launch Its First Astronauts to Space This November

autoevolution by Daniel Patrascu 11/7/2020

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-mexico-to-launch-its-first-astronauts-to-space-this-november-151183.html

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Sometime by the end of this month, New Mexico will join the very short list of American states from where people have launched into space. This is possible thanks to Virgin Galactic and its efforts of making Spaceport America one of the pillars of future space tourism.

Virgin does not say when exactly it plans to conduct the launch, but it does say it should be by the end of this month. Two astronauts, CJ Sturckow and Dave Mackay, will climb into the cabin of the VSS Unity and head out to the edge of space with the goal of both testing the spacecraft some more, and also conduct experiments on behalf of NASA.

The two will become the first people to leave for space from New Mexico soil, but the occasion is a tad more important for Sturckow, who is set to become the first human to have flown to space from three different U.S. states.

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New Mexico to Launch Its First Astronauts to Space This November

autoevolution by Daniel Patrascu 11/7/2020

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/new-mexico-to-launch-its-first-astronauts-to-space-this-november-151183.html

I wasn't aware Richard Branson's Virgin was this far along in development of manned flight....
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SpaceX Starship saved by ‘burst disk’ after Raptor static fire ends badly

TESLArati  By Eric Ralph 11/13/2020

https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-saved-by-burst-disk-static-fire-gone-wrong

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Around 7:15 pm local time, SpaceX Starship prototype SN8 fired up one or several Raptor engines for the third time ever, catching onlookers – only expected a dress rehearsal – by surprise. An hour later, CEO Elon Musk revealed that SpaceX had effectively lost control of the rocket.

Unfortunately for SpaceX, this is not the first incident in which a fire led to a loss of Starship control. Back in May 2020, Starship serial number 4 (SN4) – the first full-scale prototype to have a Raptor installed – completed its third successful static fire test. Moments later, a vent line adjacent to the engine section caught fire, burning for a minute or two. Ultimately, likely due to destroyed wiring or plumbing, SpaceX seemingly lost control of SN4 and had to wait a full two days for cryogenic propellant to boil off and evaporate before teams could approach the rocket to inspect, repair, and regain control.

Now, more likely than not, Starship SN8 has suffered a similar – but not identical – failure, cutting some level of control. Elon Musk took to Twitter about an hour after the rocket’s third Raptor static fire, revealing that SpaceX had lose control of Starship’s pneumatics, referring to hydraulic systems needed to operate most of the rocket’s valves. For SN8, that meant nothing but bad news.

    We lost vehicle pneumatics. Reason unknown at present. Liquid oxygen header tank pressure is rising. Hopefully triggers burst disk to relieve pressure, otherwise it’s going to pop the cork.

Yay! Looks like a burst disk, which is better than "the front fell off" pop.

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Starship SN8 hoping for speedy return to testing as additional vehicles line up

NASA Spaceflight by Chris Bergin November 14, 2020

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/11/sn8-speedy-return-testing-vehicles-line-up/

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Following Starship SN8’s eventful Static Fire test, it was feared the test flight would likely suffer from a lengthy delay. However, thanks in part to a burst disk that avoided a damaging “pop” scenario, SN8 may yet still fly to 50,000 feet this month, albeit with a realigned trio of Raptor engines.

While repair work on SN8 is conducted at the Launch Site, there’s been no slowdown of the incredible production cadence a short distance down Highway 4, with three Starships assembled or in a stacking processing flow. The first sections of the BN1 prototype Super Heavy are also into stacking operations in the High Bay.

Starship SN8 was in the process of following up her initial three engine Static Fire test with a new trio of ignitions over the space of around a week.

The first test involved the first-ever firing of a Raptor engine via the two Header Tanks, one of which – the LOX Header Tank – being located at the nosecone’s tip. Previous Starship prototypes (bar the pathfinder MK1) have been tested without a nosecone.

That test went to plan, despite social media speculation citing concerns with the sparks that were seen flying into the air during ignition. Those sparks were from the pad surface, not the engine letting go – as later confirmed by SpaceX pressing on to the second test promptly without removing any of the engines.

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Starship SN8 hoping for speedy return to testing as additional vehicles line up

NASA Spaceflight by Chris Bergin November 14, 2020

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2020/11/sn8-speedy-return-testing-vehicles-line-up/
I watched the last test.  There was speculation that it was hydraulic fluid burning as it dripped from the engine bay.  Or was it the engine melting?  Know anything different @Elderberry ?

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I watched the last test.  There was speculation that it was hydraulic fluid burning as it dripped from the engine bay.  Or was it the engine melting?  Know anything different @Elderberry ?


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What wasn’t expected was a stream of molten liquid dripping from one of the engine nozzles onto the pad surface several seconds after engine shutdown. That clearly wasn’t a nominal situation.

Concerned Starship followers bombarded Elon Musk with inquiries into the problem before SpaceX CEO and Chief Designer replied, “We lost vehicle pneumatics. Reason unknown at present. Liquid oxygen header tank pressure is rising. Hopefully triggers burst disk to relieve pressure; otherwise, it’s going to pop the cork.”

That immediately moved the focus on the top part of the vehicle, with the hope of seeing a release of pressure, as opposed to a potential “RUD – Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly”.

Thankfully, the burst disk – a specially designed sheet of metal that is weakened to the point an overpressure breaks the sheet before the pressure rises to the point of an explosive event – worked as planned, mitigating the lack of primary valve control via the loss of pneumatics.

A plume of released LOX was observed emanating from the top of the nosecone, effectively saving SN8.


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SpaceX’s Elon Musk hints at “notable” Starship changes, explains static fire anomaly

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 11/18/2020

CEO Elon Musk has offered an explanation for SpaceX’s recent Starship static fire anomaly and says that an overview of the next-generation rocket development program will be delayed to account for some “notable” design changes.

Over the last several months, Musk has promised to do one of his (thus far) usual annual Starship updates, either in the form of a presentation in South Texas, an article published on SpaceX’s website, or both. Originally expected in September or October, the CEO’s tentative schedules have come and gone several times. Simultaneously, however, SpaceX has been preparing Starship serial number 8 (SN8) for a range of crucial tests and Starship program firsts, recently culminating in a successful cryogenic proof test, multiple wet dress rehearsals (WDRs), nosecone installation, the first triple-Raptor static fire test, engine tests using smaller ‘header’ tanks, and more.

Unfortunately for SN8, the most recent Raptor engine header static fire – drawing propellant from two small internal tanks mainly used for landing burns – did not go according to plan, resulting in some kind of high-temperature fire and severing Starship’s hydraulic systems. For SpaceX test controllers, that meant a total loss of control of most vehicle valves and pressurization systems, essentially putting one of Starship SN8’s header tanks through an unplanned pressure and failsafe test. In the days since, what exactly caused that unfortunate failure has been the subject of a great deal of discussion – discussion that can finally be put to rest with new information from Musk himself.

Avionics cables moving to steel pipe shields & adding water-cooled steel pipes to test pad

In a surprise, SpaceX had apparently decided to add a failsafe to Starship SN8’s new nose section, installing what is known as a burst disk – effectively an automatic single-use valve. Once the upper (liquid oxygen) header tank reached dangerous pressures, the force of that pressure broke the seal, allowing the rocket to vent excess pressure and avoid what would have otherwise been a potentially catastrophic explosion.

The cause of that near-miss, according to Elon Musk, was as simple as debris kicked up during the Starship SN8 Raptor engine static fire directly prior. Producing up to 200 metric tons (~450,000 lbf) of thrust and an exhaust stream traveling some 3.3 kilometers per second (2 mi/s, Mach ~10), Musk says that Raptor tore apart a special ceramic coating covering the concrete directly beneath Starship SN8. Likely accelerated to extreme velocities in milliseconds, shards of that coating reportedly “severed [an] avionics cable, causing [a] bad [Raptor engine shutdown].”

More: https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-elon-musk-explains-failed-static-fire/

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SpaceX’s Elon Musk hints at “notable” Starship changes, explains static fire anomaly

TESLARATI  By Eric Ralph 11/18/2020

CEO Elon Musk has offered an explanation for SpaceX’s recent Starship static fire anomaly and says that an overview of the next-generation rocket development program will be delayed to account for some “notable” design changes.

Over the last several months, Musk has promised to do one of his (thus far) usual annual Starship updates, either in the form of a presentation in South Texas, an article published on SpaceX’s website, or both. Originally expected in September or October, the CEO’s tentative schedules have come and gone several times. Simultaneously, however, SpaceX has been preparing Starship serial number 8 (SN8) for a range of crucial tests and Starship program firsts, recently culminating in a successful cryogenic proof test, multiple wet dress rehearsals (WDRs), nosecone installation, the first triple-Raptor static fire test, engine tests using smaller ‘header’ tanks, and more.

Unfortunately for SN8, the most recent Raptor engine header static fire – drawing propellant from two small internal tanks mainly used for landing burns – did not go according to plan, resulting in some kind of high-temperature fire and severing Starship’s hydraulic systems. For SpaceX test controllers, that meant a total loss of control of most vehicle valves and pressurization systems, essentially putting one of Starship SN8’s header tanks through an unplanned pressure and failsafe test. In the days since, what exactly caused that unfortunate failure has been the subject of a great deal of discussion – discussion that can finally be put to rest with new information from Musk himself.

Avionics cables moving to steel pipe shields & adding water-cooled steel pipes to test pad

In a surprise, SpaceX had apparently decided to add a failsafe to Starship SN8’s new nose section, installing what is known as a burst disk – effectively an automatic single-use valve. Once the upper (liquid oxygen) header tank reached dangerous pressures, the force of that pressure broke the seal, allowing the rocket to vent excess pressure and avoid what would have otherwise been a potentially catastrophic explosion.

The cause of that near-miss, according to Elon Musk, was as simple as debris kicked up during the Starship SN8 Raptor engine static fire directly prior. Producing up to 200 metric tons (~450,000 lbf) of thrust and an exhaust stream traveling some 3.3 kilometers per second (2 mi/s, Mach ~10), Musk says that Raptor tore apart a special ceramic coating covering the concrete directly beneath Starship SN8. Likely accelerated to extreme velocities in milliseconds, shards of that coating reportedly “severed [an] avionics cable, causing [a] bad [Raptor engine shutdown].”

More: https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-elon-musk-explains-failed-static-fire/
They'd better change the ceramic coating of the concrete or they'll have the same problem again.  You'd think steel plates attached to the concrete would take care of it, but what do I know.

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They'd better change the ceramic coating of the concrete or they'll have the same problem again.  You'd think steel plates attached to the concrete would take care of it, but what do I know.

It does make the point this is not an "accurate to real life" test.  Usually, when you light the candle, it doesn't stay on the pad, but in the static fire test, the rocket stays clamped down for the entire burn.   :shrug:
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WOW! Just caught this incredible, brief moment at Port Canaveral:

A double rainbow formed over Falcon 9 B1061.1!



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SpaceX competitor Rocket Lab makes first Electron booster splashdown

CNET by  Eric Mack, Jackson Ryan Nov. 19, 2020

https://www.cnet.com/news/spacex-competitor-rocket-lab-makes-first-electron-booster-splashdown/

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The company aiming to be SpaceX for smaller satellites is working up to a historic helicopter recovery.

Rocket Lab is following in the footsteps of SpaceX by going to some pretty dramatic lengths to recycle its rockets. The startup with facilities in the US and New Zealand attempted to recover the first-stage booster from one of its Electron rockets for the first time Thursday.

The rocket blasted off from New Zealand and boosted a number of small satellites -- including one particularly special garden gnome -- toward orbit for the mission, appropriately dubbed Return to Sender. The first stage then separated to make a controlled soft water landing in the Pacific Ocean using parachutes.

The live feed of the mission was lost when the rocket descended back toward Earth at high speed, but Rocket Lab confirmed via social media that the parachutes deployed successfully and that the rocket splashed down in the Pacific.

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SpaceX launches advanced ocean-mapping satellite for NASA and Europe, nails rocket landing

Space.com by Amy Thompson 11/21/2020

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The Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich satellite will map Earth's rising sea levels.

A SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket launched an advanced ocean-mapping satellite into orbit for NASA and the European Space Agency Saturday (Nov. 21) in a stunning morning launch from California.

The 229-foot-tall (70-meter) Falcon 9 leapt off the pad from Space Launch Complex 4E at California’s Vandenberg Air Force Base at 9:17 a.m. PST (12:17 p.m. EST/1717 GMT). It's payload: the oceanography satellite Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich developed by U.S. and European space and weather agencies.

The launch marked SpaceX's SpaceX 22nd Falcon 9 this year. About nine minutes after liftoff, the rocket's first stage returned to terra firma, capping off the flight with a successful landing.

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Rumor has it that SN8 is supposed to launch on Nov. 30th.  Also, there are road closures starting Monday for additional testing.

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SpaceX Starship Updates! SN8 15km Flight Soon, SN13 & SN15 Exist, SN9 Nose Work! TheSpaceXShow

TheSpaceXFans •Nov 22, 2020

Welcome to the latest SpaceX Starship updates video from TheSpaceXFans. Starting off today, we have the recently launched Sentinel-6 mission, as well as some other standard SpaceX news. Like always, we then have a handful of Boca Chica infrastructure updates to take a look at. After which, we have Starship with SN8 15km flight soon, plus SN9 nose work, as well as SN11 stacking. Finally we now also know that SN13 & SN15 exist. Sit back and enjoy!

All sorts of cool and up to date SpaceX info from launches to boosters and more:


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LIVE: Starship SN8 Static Fire #4

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SpaceX is set to perform the fourth static fire with Starship SN8. This test will use Raptor engines SN30, SN36, and SN42.

Updates: https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/ind...

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I hope they add another layer of aluminum foil this time.  :crossed:
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Static Fire performed.

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SpaceX's Starship SN8 prototype fires engines ahead of major test flight

Space.com by Mike Wall 11/24/2020

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This was static fire number four for SN8. It could launch next week.

SpaceX's latest Starship prototype fired its engines for the fourth time on Tuesday evening (Nov. 24), keeping the vehicle on track for a landmark test flight next week.

The Starship SN8 prototype performed its fourth "static fire" test at 6:23 p.m. EST (2323 GMT) Tuesday at SpaceX's South Texas facility, near the seaside village of Boca Chica.

Static fires, in which engines briefly blaze up while a vehicle remains bolted to the ground, are common preflight checkouts for SpaceX rockets. And SN8 ("Serial No. 8") is indeed gearing up for a flight — a test that will take it to a target altitude of 9 miles (15 kilometers), far higher than any other Starship prototype has gone.

Tuesday's test kept SN8 on target for that milestone leap, SpaceX founder and CEO Elon Musk said.

"Good Starship SN8 static fire! Aiming for first 15km / ~50k ft altitude flight next week. Goals are to test 3-engine ascent, body flaps, transition from main to header tanks & landing flip," Musk tweeted Tuesday evening, about 45 minutes after the test occurred.

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Good Starship SN8 static fire!

Aiming for first 15km / ~50k ft altitude flight next week.

Goals are to test 3 engine ascent, body flaps, transition from main to header tanks & landing flip.

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How are you feeling about Starship’s chances of landing in one piece?

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Lot of things need to go right, so maybe 1/3 chance

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Elon Musk @elonmusk

Good Starship SN8 static fire!

Aiming for first 15km / ~50k ft altitude flight next week.

Goals are to test 3 engine ascent, body flaps, transition from main to header tanks & landing flip.

Michael Sheetz @thesheetztweetz·

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How are you feeling about Starship’s chances of landing in one piece?

Elon Musk@elonmusk·

Lot of things need to go right, so maybe 1/3 chance
After watching them land the first stage of a Falcon rocket over and over on the drone ship, I'd give them about a 75% chance of landing the thing.  The first time I saw the Falcon stage land and I think both stages landed at once, I just couldn't take my eyes off of it and replayed it over and over.  The technology to do that is just astounding.

The static fire the other day looked wonderful, not much debris flying up.  If the hop is a failure, I just pray it lands in the gulf and not on the tank farm.  They likely need a new reef out there anyways...lol.

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SpaceX planned 9 mile launch, 'self-destruct' zone over Gulf

KRGV5 by Christian Von Preysing 11/25/2020

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SpaceX came close to hitting the launch button on an early November flight up to 50,000 feet (9.4 miles) at its Boca Chica launch site, according to federal and state emails.

The company planned to launch its SN8 Starship prototype November 3, according to emails obtained from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department, and later between November 9 and 11, according to an email from a U.S. Coast Guard official.

Both of those launch dates did not happen. SpaceX neither announced those plans nor any cancellations. Meanwhile, the company followed through with a series of static fire tests and road closures at its Boca Chica launch site. SpaceX now plans the 50 thousand foot launch (15km) for next week.

The most striking detail among plans shared between emergency personnel, was the emergency scenario, which called for a "self-destruct" area, up to 9.9 nautical miles offshore of the Brazos Santiago southern jetty tip, according to an email written by Jason Cross, with the U.S. Coast Guard's Corpus Christi Sector.

"There is a good chance of failure on this test vehicle with debris falling into the ocean," wrote Cross, to emergency response personnel in the area. "We will need everyone to stay out of the self-destruct zone in case there is an incident."

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StarShip Flight dates posted!
SN8 will fly up to 15Km(9.4 Miles/~50kft) and attempt to land.
MON, Nov 30 (7am-6pm CST/ 1pm-12am UTC)
Closures: SN8 15km FLIGHT 🚀
Boca Chica, TX (*Primary date)
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TUES-WED, Dec 1-2 (8am-5pm CST/ 2pm-11pm UTC)
Closures: SN8 15km FLIGHT🚀
Boca Chica, TX (*Backup dates)
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If you want to see the 15km launch of the Starship here is one of the links:


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SpaceX's Starship SN8 flight attempt to 50,000 feet "no earlier than Wednesday"


https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1333123173815087111
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