Ken Starr says Pelosi engaging in 'abuse of power' and Senate may have to dismiss impeachment case

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Ken Starr says Pelosi engaging in 'abuse of power' and Senate may have to dismiss impeachment case
By Nick Givas | Fox News

    Congressional Democrats have pushed too hard on President Trump's impeachment hearings and may force Republican senators to dismiss the case altogether, said former special prosecutor Ken Starr on Thursday.

Starr appeared on "The Brian Kilmeade Show" on Fox News Radio to discuss the impeachment inquiry and said he was shocked by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's, D-Calif., "abuse of power."

"It's an outrage to seize control of the deliberate process of a committee -- [it] simply compounds a series of very, very terrible abuses," he said. "The House Judiciary committee with its incredibly rich history needs to go into... an open session and debate this."

"Where did she get this power?" Starr asked. "I am honestly surprised. Then again, why shouldn't I be surprised? Because back early in the fall, she unilaterally with no debate in the people's House says, 'we now have an impeachment inquiry.' Now she's dictating the committee to actually draft articles of impeachment? It is an abuse of power."

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[Formerly Once-Ler]

What a bizarre rant.  The House has the Constitutional duty to conduct impeachment when the President is a crook.  Pelosi leads the House.  Who else would be in charge of it?
I think Starr will say anything to keep making rate as a paid political contributor at Fox.

[XenaLee]

I don't know why the hell Starr ...or anybody... would be surprised at this point.   Pelosi is, after all, the commie/Democrat that gleefully rammed ObamaCare through with her "gavel", against the will of most Americans and without one single Republican vote of support.   

Let's face it.  She's a totalitarian bitch.  And let's not talk about what a lying hypocrite she also is, while pretending to give a damn about the Constitution, and while pretending to be a Christian/Catholic.  She is, without any doubt, a typical lying leftist Democrat, IOW. 

[Snarknado]

Pelosi can't walk back impeachment and knows a trial would be a disaster so she'll give the Senate every possible reason to dismiss.

[aligncare]

Pelosi can't walk back impeachment and knows a trial would be a disaster so she'll give the Senate every possible reason to dismiss.

Great point. She’s boxed in and must proceed with impeachment—even though what they have is nothing.

[Lando Lincoln]

Pelosi can't walk back impeachment and knows a trial would be a disaster so she'll give the Senate every possible reason to dismiss.

My quick, maybe super quick thought on this is it would be the best political outcome the Pelosi Dems could hope for.  A trial in the Senate would likely prove disastrous for her party.  Shine the light of day on it.

[Snarknado]

My quick, maybe super quick thought on this is it would be the best political outcome the Pelosi Dems could hope for.  A trial in the Senate would likely prove disastrous for her party.  Shine the light of day on it.

Right - a trial gives Trump total exoneration and puts an end to the farce for this election cycle. Dismissal wouldn't carry the same weight and would give her an excuse to drag out more bogus investigations.

Edit> One more point - dismissal wouldn't get a dem vote and probably not all repubs, whereas acquittal will be bi-partisan.

[massadvj]

I doubt very much that McConnell will give her the opportunity to "option out."  I think the GOP would love Kavanaugh II and subject the American people to another exciting episode of "Democrats Behaving Badly," especially in an election cycle in which the the electoral college will matter more than the urban vote.

That said, I stick with my prediction and say this will not be referred to the senate.  The house will decide to censure and that will be it until the next impeachment should the Dems win back the house, which seems likely.

[Cyber Liberty]

My quick, maybe super quick thought on this is it would be the best political outcome the Pelosi Dems could hope for.  A trial in the Senate would likely prove disastrous for her party.  Shine the light of day on it.

That is my opinion as well.  Dismissing the charges without a trial would deprive the President of his day in court.  Instead, it will allow the Rats to declare the process "unfair," all the charges will be assumed true by the press and that would be the most damaging (to Trump) scenario our there.

McConnell is a two-faced bleep who would be thrilled if Trump loses in 2020.  He doesn't like having his boat rocked any more than Pelosi does.

[Cyber Liberty]

I doubt very much that McConnell will give her the opportunity to "option out."  I think the GOP would love Kavanaugh II and subject the American people to another exciting episode of "Democrats Behaving Badly," especially in an election cycle in which the the electoral college will matter more than the urban vote.

That said, I stick with my prediction and say this will not be referred to the senate.  The house will decide to censure and that will be it until the next impeachment should the Dems win back the house, which seems likely.

Anything to prohibit Trump from proving his innocence is OK by both McConnell and Pelosi.  Those two will collude, given the stakes.

[Right_in_Virginia]

That said, I stick with my prediction and say this will not be referred to the senate.  The house will decide to censure and that will be it until the next impeachment should the Dems win back the house, which seems likely.

Small point @massadvj   I assume you mean when the Dems win back the Senate.  If so, where do you see their victories in 2020?

Thanks.

[Bigun]

My quick, maybe super quick thought on this is it would be the best political outcome the Pelosi Dems could hope for.  A trial in the Senate would likely prove disastrous for her party.  Shine the light of day on it.

  Sunlight is still the best disinfectant!

Good to see you @Lando Lincoln !

[Lando Lincoln]

Good to see you @Lando Lincoln !

Thanks @Bigun

 

[conservativevoter]

Why should Nana pretend to be a Catholic?  Didn't Torquemada do exactly what she is doing?   

[massadvj]

Small point @massadvj   I assume you mean when the Dems win back the Senate.  If so, where do you see their victories in 2020?

Thanks.

No, I assume they win back the house and impeach again after the 2020 election. 

[Cyber Liberty]

No, I assume they win back the house and impeach again after the 2020 election.

If that happens, and Trump still wins, there will be a "permanent" Committee on Impeachment, sucking all the air out of DeeCee until at least 2023.  There will be an endless parade of allegations, each more ridiculous than the previous.  Never Trump coverage in the press will creep to over 97% of all stories.

Winning the House back is almost as important as reelecting the President.

[massadvj]

If that happens, and Trump still wins, there will be a "permanent" Committee on Impeachment, sucking all the air out of DeeCee until at least 2023.  There will be an endless parade of allegations, each more ridiculous than the previous.  Never Trump coverage in the press will creep to over 97% of all stories.

Winning the House back is almost as important as reelecting the President.

I think if this farce is successful for the Democrats it means that impeachment will be on the table whenever there is divided government between the house and the presidency.  It will in effect demonstrate that impeachment can be used as a pre-election marketing tool whenever the party that controls the house wants the presidency.  You are absolutely right.  The voters have to put this down because the implications of electoral success after this stunt are potentially disastrous for the republic.

[Right_in_Virginia]

No, I assume they win back the house and impeach again after the 2020 election.

Here's my stumbling block:  do you mean "they" being democrats KEEP the house, or "they" being Republicans win back the House?

I'm just trying to make sense of your assertion @massadvj

Thanks.

[bilo]

Great point. She’s boxed in and must proceed with impeachment—even though what they have is nothing.

I think they realize they are starting to be seen as the evil totalitarians they are.

I think it's a safe bet that what ever they send to the Senate will open the door for the Pubs to show the public the lack of due process, lack of any evidence of a crime by Trump, the secret spying of members of Congress the press and violation of attorney client privilege. If that doesn't get the public mad enough, then the Pubs can show how this was all a set up from the beginning and finally how Trump was right to be concerned about corruption by looking into the Bidens.

The end result should be messaging to the public can you trust these Rats with power?

[bilo]

I doubt very much that McConnell will give her the opportunity to "option out."  I think the GOP would love Kavanaugh II and subject the American people to another exciting episode of "Democrats Behaving Badly," especially in an election cycle in which the the electoral college will matter more than the urban vote.

That said, I stick with my prediction and say this will not be referred to the senate.  The house will decide to censure and that will be it until the next impeachment should the Dems win back the house, which seems likely.

If the Rats have any sense you're right. I think they are so consumed with hate and fear there is no way they can stop at this point.

Thankfully, the American public is beginning to see the Rats are modern day Bolsheviks and a trial in the Senate should further cement that image.

[massadvj]

Here's my stumbling block:  do you mean "they" being democrats KEEP the house, or "they" being Republicans win back the House?

I'm just trying to make sense of your assertion @massadvj

Thanks.

I assume Trump will win a second term, the Dems will keep the house, and that the Dems will try to impeach again, on whatever "new" evidence arises out of the 2020 campaign.

[Bigun]

I assume Trump will win a second term, the Dems will keep the house, and that the Dems will try to impeach again, on whatever "new" evidence arises out of the 2020 campaign.

I'll wager a free round of golf that if the Democrats actually do impeach the president, they will lose the house in an epic fashion @massadvj

[massadvj]

I'll wager a free round of golf that if the Democrats actually do impeach the president, they will lose the house in an epic fashion @massadvj

Earl, the problem with that scenario is that the congressional house map looks almost impossible to beat.  The GOP has a huge number of retirements, and Trump will likely lose the popular vote nationwide by four or five points.  That helps the Democrats in the house because the vote for congress critters more closely parallels the popular vote.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I assume Trump will win a second term, the Dems will keep the house, and that the Dems will try to impeach again, on whatever "new" evidence arises out of the 2020 campaign.

Got it, thanks.  Wish I could disagree about the House.

[Bigun]

Earl, the problem with that scenario is that the congressional house map looks almost impossible to beat.  The GOP has a huge number of retirements, and Trump will likely lose the popular vote nationwide by four or five points.  That helps the Democrats in the house because the vote for congress critters more closely parallels the popular vote.

Thanks for the warning my friend but the wager remains available if you dare.