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[Elderberry]

 

This is what @Victoria33  was trying to relay.

“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 [of the Constitution] does not give him the power to do anything he wants,” testified Pamela Karlan, a professor at Stanford Law School. “The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, so while the president can name his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron.”

[Hoodat]

@Hoodat

The basis for that is what Trump said about himself and this is why Karlan said what she did:  It was brought up in testimony Trump's words when speaking as the President, "I can do anything I want".

That is what caused Karlan to speak as she did to point out, Trump cannot do anything he wants, he does not have the power of a King.

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[Hoodat]

 

This is what @Victoria33  was trying to relay.

“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 [of the Constitution] does not give him the power to do anything he wants

The President never made the argument that Article 2 gave him the power to do anything he wants.

[XenaLee]

What she did was use the name and she knew what she was doing when she said it.  Secondly, it has absolutely nothing to do with impeachment, nothing more than opinion and jockeying to throw a jab while she's at it.

Saying that Trump thinks that he is 'King' and thinks that he owns the United States is nothing more than opinion.  Even IF that opinion were true, explain the impeachable offense.

Since when do we remove the President of the United States of America who rightfully won an election, but the other side who lost doesn't want him in office?? 

That's all that this is and those who go along with it ought to be ashamed.

This 'kangaroo court' should have never been allowed.  Last time I checked we are a democracy within a Republic and not a Banana republic.

Quite frankly, with all that has gone on since his inauguration, the Russian collusion and now this circus of impeachment I think we all should be afraid.  Afraid of what the leftists, RINO's and globalist are capable of.

I'm thinking maybe they should be afraid of what We, the People are capable of.   

[240B]

I'm only asking you gentlemen to debate her point(s), (or lack thereof) without the use of words like idiot and sick.

Thank you, for repeating what you deleted. It needed to be said. And you, said it better than me.

[Elderberry]

The President never made the argument that Article 2 gave him the power to do anything he wants.

Then take it up with Pamela Karlan who said it today.

[Victoria33]

This is what @Victoria33  was trying to relay.

@Elderberry

Thanks for the below exact quote from the hearing today.  When Trump said that a while ago, that as President he can do anything he wants, I heard him say that and knew he meant it, that he does think he can do anything he wants - that means he thinks he can do anything to this country - like, he owns it and us who live in it. 

Karlan said:
“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 [of the Constitution] does not give him the power to do anything he wants,” testified Pamela Karlan, a professor at Stanford Law School. “The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, so while the president can name his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron.”

[libertybele]

The President never made the argument that Article 2 gave him the power to do anything he wants.

Exactly.  Still waiting on the proof that he committed an impeachment offense.  Not opinion, but proof.  Even IF the President said "I can do what I want; that comment in itself is NOT an impeachable offense.

[Wingnut]

  Just stop.

No.  Hell no.   

[Wingnut]

@Elderberry

Thanks for the below exact quote from the hearing today.  When Trump said that a while ago, that as President he can do anything he wants, I heard him say that and knew he meant it, that he does think he can do anything he wants - that means he thinks he can do anything to this country - like, he owns it and us who live in it. 

Karlan said:
“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 [of the Constitution] does not give him the power to do anything he wants,” testified Pamela Karlan, a professor at Stanford Law School. “The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, so while the president can name his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron.”

You suck

[libertybele]

@Elderberry

Thanks for the below exact quote from the hearing today.  When Trump said that a while ago, that as President he can do anything he wants, I heard him say that and knew he meant it, that he does think he can do anything he wants - that means he thinks he can do anything to this country - like, he owns it and us who live in it. 

Karlan said:
“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 [of the Constitution] does not give him the power to do anything he wants,” testified Pamela Karlan, a professor at Stanford Law School. “The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, so while the president can name his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron.”

So what?

As far as the Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, then I guess we can no longer call the President, "President"?

Seriously.  Anyway you cut it, she used his child.  She knew what she was doing.  Her comment had no place. It was nothing more than an assassination attempt on his character.

I again ask, where is the proof of an impeachable offense @Victoria33 ?  Trump handed over the transcript and pretty much everything else has been nothing but  opinion, hearsay and a lot of nothing to do with an actual offense.

[bigheadfred]

My take on the thing is that the manner in witch Karlan made her point that Trump cannot be a king made her a king.

[240B]

President Trump has a Phone and a Pen, so screw what Congress or the American People think!

Oh...Oh...wait. That was what Obama said, to absolutely no objection from anyone.

[sneakypete]

The new left are the same commies they've always been.  It's just that Trump's election has forced them out of the closet.   It should be glaringly apparent, even to the stuckonstupid Democrat constituents, what enemies of our nation they truly are.

@XenaLee

The left is upset and jealous because 13 year old Baron Trump is BOTH smarter AND more mature than 30-something Hunter Biden.

[Hoodat]

@Elderberry

Thanks for the below exact quote from the hearing today.  When Trump said that a while ago, that as President he can do anything he wants, I heard him say that and knew he meant it, that he does think he can do anything he wants - that means he thinks he can do anything to this country - like, he owns it and us who live in it. 

Karlan said:
“Contrary to what President Trump has said, Article 2 [of the Constitution] does not give him the power to do anything he wants,” testified Pamela Karlan, a professor at Stanford Law School. “The Constitution says there can be no titles of nobility, so while the president can name his son Barron, he can’t make him a baron.”

Karlan also said this:

When the President said, "Do us a favor", he was using the royal "we" there.  It wasn't a favor for the United States; he should have said 'Do me a favor'.  Because only kings say 'us' when they mean 'me'.

The logical disconnect here boggles the mind.  Trump thinks himself a king because he used the word "us".  It is a word that anyone else normally would have used.  Except when Trump used the word "us", he really meant the word "me".  For anyone else, 'us' means 'us'.  But for Trump, 'us' means 'me'.  And this proves that Trump thinks he is a king.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSQ6iStwJUM

[bigheadfred]

President Trump has a Phone and a Pen, so screw what Congress or the American People think!

Oh...Oh...wait. That was what Obama said, to absolutely no objection from anyone.

Noblesse oblige is dead. And that obama guy had nobility to be president.

[sneakypete]

The new left are the same commies they've always been.  It's just that Trump's election has forced them out of the closet.   It should be glaringly apparent, even to the stuckonstupid Democrat constituents, what enemies of our nation they truly are.

@XenaLee

It's worse than that to the left. They KNOW that if they lose this time,it's over for them. The Dim Party will have self-destructed,and they will have to start all over again from scratch.

When you consider they have  been working towards controlling the US government since the 1920's,and then come THIS close and blow it,you can see why they are so hysterical.

[libertybele]

I'm thinking maybe they should be afraid of what We, the People are capable of.

Except, the right wing of this country tends to do things by using the appropriate channels whereas the loonies on the left are the ones that rise up.  This is a huge concern.  I don't see this impeachment process ending well either way.

[libertybele]

@XenaLee

It's worse than that to the left. They KNOW that if they lose this time,it's over for them. The Dim Party will have self-destructed,and they will have to start all over again from scratch.

When you consider they have  been working towards controlling the US government since the 1920's,and then come THIS close and blow it,you can see why they are so hysterical.

Well, that's one way to look at things. 

[Hoodat]

Then take it up with Pamela Karlan who said it today.

I am intimately aware of the Left's propensity for utilizing non-rational persuasion.  But when it is repeated here, it will be challenged.  Capisce?

Trump is being attacked for holding the position that Article II of the Constitution allows him to do anything he wants.  Yet Trump does not hold that position.  It is a complete fabrication.  And when tripe like that gets posted here, expect a response from me.

[austingirl]

True. As am I.
What she is saying is ridiculous and is insulting to any intelligent person.

[austingirl]

The only thing that  "caused" Karlan to make her snarky, vile comment was the much-rehearsed leading question from Sheila JACKson Lee.

[MOD4]

I certainly expect you and others to respond @Hoodat my admonishment was not meant towards you as you are a gentleman and have refuted her points without relying on personal insults.  Thank you.

[austingirl]

Hitlery was going to put Pammy on the SC, imagine that!

[Hoodat]

Hitlery was going to put Pammy on the SC, imagine that!

Not for a mere $2,000 campaign contribution.  She would have had to pony up six figures to the Clinton Foundation as well.