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Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« on: November 28, 2019, 05:54:41 pm »
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2019/11/27/virginia-senate-bill-no-64-declaring-tactical-training-illegal/

Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
BY HERSCHEL SMITH

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SENATE BILL NO. 64
Offered January 8, 2020
Prefiled November 21, 2019
A BILL to amend and reenact § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia, relating to paramilitary activities; penalty.
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Patron– Lucas
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Referred to Committee for Courts of Justice
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Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Virginia:
1. That § 18.2-433.2 of the Code of Virginia is amended and reenacted as follows:

§ 18.2-433.2. Paramilitary activity prohibited; penalty.

A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he:

1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

2. Assembles with one or more persons for the purpose of training with, practicing with, or being instructed in the use of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, intending to employ such training for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

3. Assembles with one or more persons with the intent of intimidating any person or group of persons by drilling, parading, or marching with any firearm, any explosive or incendiary device, or any components or combination thereof.

2. That the provisions of this act may result in a net increase in periods of imprisonment or commitment. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of imprisonment in state adult correctional facilities; therefore, Chapter 854 of the Acts of Assembly of 2019 requires the Virginia Criminal Sentencing Commission to assign a minimum fiscal impact of $50,000. Pursuant to § 30-19.1:4 of the Code of Virginia, the estimated amount of the necessary appropriation cannot be determined for periods of commitment to the custody of the Department of Juvenile Justice.

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This is a remarkable development.  One refreshing thing is that the masks have all come off now.  With control of the Senate, House and Governor’s mansion, the controllers want you to know where they stand and are willing to say so out loud and in the clearest possible terms.

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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2019, 05:55:53 pm »
My reaction can be viewed here (52 second video):
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2019, 04:40:41 pm »
Our county is having a hearing about this tonight, I will be one of the speakers. Rumor has it that 100% of the Board of Supervisors are in agreement to make this a Sanctuary County. I guess 100% of them want to keep their jobs.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2019, 06:54:35 pm »
http://www.captainsjournal.com/2019/11/27/virginia-senate-bill-no-64-declaring-tactical-training-illegal/

 
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1. Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm, explosive, or incendiary device, or technique capable of causing injury or death to persons, knowing or having reason to know or intending that such training will be employed for use in, or in furtherance of, a civil disorder; or

 

@Holy CRAP! I didn't even have to read any further than Article 1,since it makes "suspicion of being suspicious" a felony! Stalin and Hitler would both have had spontaneous orgasms at the mere thought of having a law like that in effect.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 10:49:04 am »
Over 1800 people showed up, about 80 of us spoke on the matter. 100% unanimous. Augusta county Va. is now a sanctuary county.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2019, 11:22:43 pm »
Over 1800 people showed up, about 80 of us spoke on the matter. 100% unanimous. Augusta county Va. is now a sanctuary county.

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I sincerely hope it works out for all of you.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2019, 04:12:48 am »
@verga

I sincerely hope it works out for all of you.
Wsyesboro and Staunton City will both be holding hearings in the near future. I plan on speaking at both of them.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2019, 05:33:30 am »
Sounds like they could almost construe shooting at targets with a .22 as 'tactical training.'
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2019, 06:08:13 am »
Sounds like they could almost construe shooting at targets with a .22 as 'tactical training.'
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"Almost"???? They CAN. THEY are the ones that are making the rules,and "tactical training" is anything they want it to be,including teaching people how to march in step.

First aide can be considered to be tactical training.

You don't even need a gun.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2019, 06:16:59 am »
@Free Vulcan

"Almost"???? They CAN. THEY are the ones that are making the rules,and "tactical training" is anything they want it to be,including teaching people how to march in step.

First aide can be considered to be tactical training.

You don't even need a gun.

That was a wry understatement, but yeah, that's the broadest and vaguest bill I've seen in a long time.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2019, 06:45:56 am »
That was a wry understatement, but yeah, that's the broadest and vaguest bill I've seen in a long time.

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Don't worry about it. Once they pass it,it will start to get pretty damn specific pretty damn quickly.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2019, 12:36:28 am »
Sounds like they could almost construe shooting at targets with a .22 as 'tactical training.'

The way I read it was any type of firearms training could be construed as "tactical" training.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2019, 12:42:57 am »
Stupid bastards don’t know the hell they’re going to unleash.  Just last week, in Tazewell county,Va,  not only did they become the latest in a string of Va counties declaring themselves 2A sanctuaries... they also officially formed a county militia.
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Re: Virginia Senate Bill No. 64: Declaring Tactical Training Illegal
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2019, 04:47:40 pm »
Stupid bastards don’t know the hell they’re going to unleash.  Just last week, in Tazewell county,Va,  not only did they become the latest in a string of Va counties declaring themselves 2A sanctuaries... they also officially formed a county militia.
The Sheriff of Culpepper said he is ready to deputize Thousands of residents so the laws will not apply to them.
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