Sweeping VA gun ban, likely confiscation without grandfather clause, proposed by state legislature

[Hoodat]

Shenandoah County board votes to become Second Amendment sanctuary

SHENANDOAH COUNTY, Va. (WHSV) — After decisions by over 40 localities across Virginia, Shenandoah County became the latest to adopt a resolution to become a 'Second Amendment Sanctuary' on Dec. 9.

The Shenandoah County Board of Supervisors voted unanimously on the decision at a special meeting on Tuesday night.

Hundreds of concerned residents packed Central High School, urging the board to pass the resolution opposing future gun control laws that infringe on second amendment rights.

"The second amendment is not to be compromised," said one speaker. "It is a document that our fathers wrote and came together and set it in place for us to live by.

https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Shenandoah-County-board-voting-on-2nd-Amendment-Sanctuary-resolution-565999651.html

[Hoodat]

‘Militia’ Resolution provides extra protection for Tazewell County residents

Jade Burks     |     9 Dec 2019

~snip~

But a second resolution is providing the residents of Tazewell County with more protection.

"Tazewell County also passed a militia resolution, which gives us some teeth to be able to act and do something if a law comes out dealing with firearms that we see is illegal," Sheriff Hieatt explained.

That resolution actually gives Tazewell County the opportunity to challenge any law it feels violates the Second Amendment rights of its citizens.

"The stronger legal arguments are the ones that we are preparing in the second resolution to allow us a constitutional challenge," Stacy said. "If the Virginia General Assembly passes these laws as they are written, and the governor signs them; we have the immediate ability to challenge those in both the Virginia and the United States Courts to challenge the constitutionality of those laws."

https://wvva.com/2019/12/09/militia-resolution-provides-extra-protection-for-tazewell-county-residents/


Interesting tactic.  Virginia law also allows for an 'unorganized militia'.  https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title44/chapter1/section44-4/

[Smokin Joe]

@ Smokin Joe


  Yeah,how bout that? Think many people will realize that and wake up in time to vote the Fascist bastards out before they seize total control?

Not so long as their assault words aren't banned.

Divide and conquer remains a viable strategy.

[Hoodat]

[Rockingham County] Supervisors To Support Second Amendment, Not Sanctuary

By JESSICA WETZLER     |     Dec 10, 2019 Updated 5 min ago

Rockingham County will not join other Virginia cities and counties in becoming a Second Amendment sanctuary under a proposed resolution released Tuesday.

The county released a draft document stating the board would declare its intent to oppose unconstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms through any and all legal means, but the word “sanctuary” was left out.

The board will hold a public hearing on the resolution Wednesday. Supervisors scheduled the hearing after being asked by the Rockingham County Republican Party to declare Rockingham a Second Amendment sanctuary.

County Attorney Thomas Miller said Tuesday that while the resolution shares some of the same elements as those approved by other counties that have become Second Amendment sanctuaries, Rockingham will not become a sanctuary if the resolution is approved.

https://www.dnronline.com/news/rockingham_county/supervisors-to-support-second-amendment-not-sanctuary/article_1590d310-2a82-548f-9994-9b348d53176e.html


This is disappointing.  Rockingham County supports the Second Amendment (unless the state government decides to confiscate everyone's guns).  Just another reason to hate Harrisonburg.

[Hoodat]

Grottoes Becomes Second Amendment Sanctuary

By JESSICA WETZLER     |      Dec 9, 2019 Updated 22 hrs ago

GROTTOES — Days before Rockingham County will consider a resolution declaring itself a Second Amendment sanctuary, the town of Grottoes took an extra step and became a Second Amendment sanctuary town.

The resolution was not on the agenda for Monday’s Town Council meeting, but was brought up by Councilman Joshua Bailey during new business.

Bailey read the resolution to make Grottoes a Second Amendment sanctuary town off the only copy made available to council members. Mayor Emily Holloway said only one copy was present during the meeting.

The resolution passed 4-1, with Councilman Mark Keeler in opposition and Councilman David Raynes absent.

https://www.dnronline.com/news/rockingham_county/grottoes-becomes-second-amendment-sanctuary/article_777f5328-3935-564c-8d61-0e04096bf578.html


Grottoes sits on the line between Augusta and Rockingham counties.

[sneakypete]

[Rockingham County] Supervisors To Support Second Amendment, Not Sanctuary

By JESSICA WETZLER     |     Dec 10, 2019 Updated 5 min ago

Rockingham County will not join other Virginia cities and counties in becoming a Second Amendment sanctuary under a proposed resolution released Tuesday.

The county released a draft document stating the board would declare its intent to oppose unconstitutional restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms through any and all legal means, but the word “sanctuary” was left out.

The board will hold a public hearing on the resolution Wednesday. Supervisors scheduled the hearing after being asked by the Rockingham County Republican Party to declare Rockingham a Second Amendment sanctuary.

County Attorney Thomas Miller said Tuesday that while the resolution shares some of the same elements as those approved by other counties that have become Second Amendment sanctuaries, Rockingham will not become a sanctuary if the resolution is approved.

https://www.dnronline.com/news/rockingham_county/supervisors-to-support-second-amendment-not-sanctuary/article_1590d310-2a82-548f-9994-9b348d53176e.html


This is disappointing.  Rockingham County supports the Second Amendment (unless the state government decides to confiscate everyone's guns).  Just another reason to hate Harrisonburg.

@Hoodat

Translation:  "We support the 2nd Amendment because we want to get re-elected,but we're not serious about it."

[Smokin Joe]

The bottom line is that while these might be great for protest or statements of intent, the resolutions are not legally binding, nor do they exempt these jurisdictions from State Law, as the AG smugly pointed out.
That the AG is tone deaf, completely, when it comes to gun owners and folks outside of the cities is evident. I'll confine my comment to that rather than give an opinion based on my impressions.

https://gundynamics.com/articles/no-legal-effect-whatsoever?utm_source=deployer&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter&utm_content=20191210235905

However, the unorganized militia resolution passed by Tazewell County has more weight, legally, and brings the standing to challenge acts out of Richmond in court immediately. https://wvva.com/2019/12/09/militia-resolution-provides-extra-protection-for-tazewell-county-residents/

What are needed are ordinances or laws passed by these local jurisdictions that give the ability to challenge the State Law in court.

[Hoodat]

Chesapeake council passes Second Amendment sanctuary resolution

The Associated Press 13 hrs ago

CHESAPEAKE — Virginia's third-largest city has joined the growing list of local governments to pass a 2nd Amendment sanctuary resolution.

The Virginian-Pilot reported that Chesapeake City Council members on Tuesday unanimously voted to designate the city as a “Second Amendment Constitutional City.”

The vote drew a standing ovation and cheers from the packed crowd in attendance.

https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/chesapeake-council-passes-second-amendment-sanctuary-resolution/article_7ae30b55-7ed6-5379-a4ed-65ddc0d18db3.html

[Hoodat]

Amid push for gun ‘sanctuaries,’ Hanover and Henrico adopt resolutions but Chesterfield declines

By C. SUAREZ ROJAS AND SEAN GORMAN Richmond Times-Dispatch 3 hrs ago 

Leaders in two Richmond suburbs have voted this week on resolutions in response to a growing demand across Virginia for local governments to declare they are “sanctuaries” that will not infringe on residents’ gun rights under the Second Amendment.

The Hanover County Board of Supervisors’ adoption Wednesday of a modified “sanctuary” resolution was loudly cheered by many of the several hundred people in attendance, but a resolution passed a day earlier by Henrico County’s supervisors made no mention of gun rights, disappointing dozens of people who had sought a stronger stance in the face of possible legislation in the upcoming Virginia General Assembly.

In Chesterfield County, hundreds of people attended the county’s Board of Supervisors meeting Wednesday to advocate for the adoption of a sanctuary resolution. The board declined to do so.

In all three localities, fire marshals had to cut off access to the boardrooms because there were too many people and the rooms were at capacity.

https://www.richmond.com/news/local/government-politics/amid-push-for-gun-sanctuaries-hanover-and-henrico-adopt-resolutions/article_be0818d1-e4b4-5fa9-aaf3-62b7ca0c886f.html

[sneakypete]

Amid push for gun ‘sanctuaries,’ Hanover and Henrico adopt resolutions but Chesterfield declines

By C. SUAREZ ROJAS AND SEAN GORMAN Richmond Times-Dispatch 3 hrs ago

Leaders in two Richmond suburbs have voted this week on resolutions in response to a growing demand across Virginia for local governments to declare they are “sanctuaries” that will not infringe on residents’ gun rights under the Second Amendment.

The Hanover County Board of Supervisors’ adoption Wednesday of a modified “sanctuary” resolution was loudly cheered by many of the several hundred people in attendance, but a resolution passed a day earlier by Henrico County’s supervisors made no mention of gun rights, disappointing dozens of people who had sought a stronger stance in the face of possible legislation in the upcoming Virginia General Assembly.

In Chesterfield County, hundreds of people attended the county’s Board of Supervisors meeting Wednesday to advocate for the adoption of a sanctuary resolution. The board declined to do so.

In all three localities, fire marshals had to cut off access to the boardrooms because there were too many people and the rooms were at capacity.

https://www.richmond.com/news/local/government-politics/amid-push-for-gun-sanctuaries-hanover-and-henrico-adopt-resolutions/article_be0818d1-e4b4-5fa9-aaf3-62b7ca0c886f.html

@Hoodat

I understand that the yankee weasel elected as Governor by the yankee weasel carpet-baggers that moved to Virginia went on tv to say or imply that he would have any sheriffs and deputies that refused to follow the law arrested and/or removed from office. Laugh if you want,but that is a serious threat to people who dreamed about wearing a badge their whole lives because they know it would end their LEO careers permanently.

[mountaineer]

'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don't enforce gun control
by Kerry Picket
 | December 11, 2019 10:01 PM

Democratic lawmakers on Capitol Hill say local police who do not enforce gun control measures likely to pass in Virginia should face prosecution and even threats of the National Guard.

After November's Virginia Legislature elections that led to Democrats taking control of both chambers, the gun control legislation proposed by some Democrats moved forward, including universal background checks, an “assault weapons” ban, and a red flag law.  ...

McEachin also noted that Democratic Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam could call the National Guard, if necessary.

“And ultimately, I'm not the governor, but the governor may have to nationalize the National Guard to enforce the law,” he said. “That's his call, because I don't know how serious these counties are and how severe the violations of law will be. But that's obviously an option he has.” ... More at Washington Examiner

Dana Loesch  @DLoesch
I challenge Democrats to follow through with this and drag innocent, law-abiding people off into the night for not willingly forfeiting their Second Amendment rights. Let’s put it on televisions across the country.
9:30 AM · Dec 12, 2019

[sneakypete]

Dana Loesch  @DLoesch
I challenge Democrats to follow through with this and drag innocent, law-abiding people off into the night for not willingly forfeiting their Second Amendment rights. Let’s put it on televisions across the country.
9:30 AM · Dec 12, 2019

@mountaineer

Yeah,that will work until the first time the carpetbagger governor calls out the NG and orders them to open fire,if necessary,on their relatives and neighbors. That will happen at roughly the same time he looks out his office window and sees the VA NG surrounding the Governor's Mansion.

[Hoodat]

Here's a reversal

Rockingham County votes to become Second Amendment sanctuary


WHSV Newsroom  |  Posted: Wed 9:03 PM, Dec 11, 2019  |  Updated: Thu 10:37 AM, Dec 12, 2019

ROCKINGHAM COUNTY, Va. (WHSV) — Rockingham County became the latest locality in Virginia to declare itself a Second Amendment sanctuary on Wednesday night.

In a unanimous vote, the Rockingham County Board of Supervisors passed a resolution, similar to that which has been passed by more than 60 other localities, in support of their citizens' Second Amendment rights.

The vote came after a public comment period was held at Spotswood High School on Wednesday night. The meeting was packed with thousands of supporters of the decision. The large majority of speakers supported the resolution, while some spoke against it.

Overall, there were over 3,000 people in attendance.

Before and during the hearing, there were significant traffic delays in the area around the high school, with some people reporting that it took them at least 45 minutes just to get into the school parking lot.

More than dozen people spoke, before the board announced they had made a decision, hoping the resolution would put political pressure on Democratic lawmakers in Richmond who have made clear they want to put in place stricter gun laws in Virginia.

Those laws include universal background checks, banning any magazines that hold more than ten rounds, red flag laws, and more.

"In the words of a very intelligent, but defeated admiral, I am afraid we have done nothing but awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with great resolve. For that is exactly what they have done. Next election, we patriots of Virginia in Rockingham County will not forget that we will vote for that. God bless America and may his hand protect you and the Constitution," said one Rockingham County citizen.  .  .  .

https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Rockingham-County-votes-to-become-Second-Amendment-sanctuary-566110821.html

[Hoodat]

'The law is the law': Virginia Democrats float prosecution, National Guard deployment if police don't enforce gun control

Speaking of the law, this is what Virginia law already says:

§ 44-1. Composition of militia.

The militia of the Commonwealth of Virginia shall consist of all able-bodied residents of the Commonwealth who are citizens of the United States and all other able-bodied persons resident in the Commonwealth who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, who are at least 16 years of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of age. The militia shall be divided into three classes: the National Guard, which includes the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard; the Virginia Defense Force; and the unorganized militia.

In other words, every able-bodied resident between 16 and 55 who's either or wants to be a citizen is by law considered a militia member.

Here's the regulation regarding the unorganized militia:

§ 44-4. Composition of unorganized militia.

The unorganized militia shall consist of all able-bodied persons as set out in § 44-1, except such as may be included in §§ 44-2 and 44-54.6 and except such as may be exempted as hereinafter provided.

So it looks like these Democrats who claim to stand by the law here don't actually know what existing law says.  They plan to call out one militia to disarm another militia, both of which are regulated by Commonwealth law.  The bottom line here is that Democrats are straight-up fascists who don't give a damn about what the law, or the Constitution for that matter.

[Hoodat]

The bottom line is that while these might be great for protest or statements of intent, the resolutions are not legally binding, nor do they exempt these jurisdictions from State Law, as the AG smugly pointed out.

@Smokin Joe

The part the AG is failing to admit is that Virginia Law qualifies just about anyone as a militia member.  (See: Amendment II)

[Hoodat]

Updated map:




Not sure how accurate it is because I have not found any stories from Bath or Rockbridge Counties confirming passage.

[Hoodat]

Nelson County board joins dozens of others to become a 2nd Amendment sanctuary

Annie Schroeder ; WHSV newsroom  |  Posted: Tue 1:54 PM, Dec 10, 2019  |  Updated: Tue 4:40 PM, Dec 10, 2019

NELSON COUNTY, Va. (WVIR/WHSV) — Nelson County became the latest locality in Virginia to declare itself a Second Amendment sanctuary on Tuesday afternoon.

In a 4-1 vote, the Nelson County Board of Supervisors passed a resolution, similar to that which has been passed by over 40 other localities, in support of their citizens' Second Amendment rights.

The Nelson County courthouse was packed with people there for the decision, but even before the hearing, the night before, poor weather didn’t stop people from packing the parking lot at the courthouse advocating for it in a rally.

"We don't have anybody carrying weapons, nobody's in tactical gear. We're just sane Americans and we just like to hunt we like to shoot guns. It’s all legal and we want everybody to know that we're normal folks,” organizer Don Heres said.  .  .  .

https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Nelson-County-community-rallies-for-Second-Amendment-Sanctuary-resolution-566035491.html


This one surprised me because Nelson County typically votes Democrat.  With this much anger, VA-5^th could easily swing GOP in 2020.

The article also confirms Rockbridge County (which I would expect).

Also voting Monday night to become a Second Amendment Sanctuary were the city of Galax, the town of Grottoes, the town of Rocky Mount, Rockbridge County, and Bedford County.

It would be great if we could get Albemarle, Faquier, and Loudon counties.  If those declare as sanctuary cities, Trump could win Virginia in 2020.

[Smokin Joe]

@Hoodat

I understand that the yankee weasel elected as Governor by the yankee weasel carpet-baggers that moved to Virginia went on tv to say or imply that he would have any sheriffs and deputies that refused to follow the law arrested and/or removed from office. Laugh if you want,but that is a serious threat to people who dreamed about wearing a badge their whole lives because they know it would end their LEO careers permanently.

Those hired guns would be directly interfering with and arresting the very people elected to enforce the law in those counties.
Think about that for a second.
Let the ramifications of allowing appointed hirelings to overturn the will of the People, even to the degree they'd remove those elected people  from their offices against the will of the electorate.

[sneakypete]

Those hired guns would be directly interfering with and arresting the very people elected to enforce the law in those counties.
Think about that for a second.
Let the ramifications of allowing appointed hirelings to overturn the will of the People, even to the degree they'd remove those elected people  from their offices against the will of the electorate.

@Smokin Joe

We are not going to have to imagine it for long because it is going to be a reality within a year in Virginia. The leftist weasel the yankee immigrants elected is as serious about this stuff as a heart-attack. Unlike a lot of pols who claim to be something for personal gain,this asshat is a True Believer,and between him and Terrible Terry McAulliffe,the guy he replaced,they have appointed enough lapdog yankee weasels in positions of authority with the Va police and courts that he considers it to be a done deal he is going to get away with.

And he might. This thing could easily go to total gun confiscation,or total anarchy and revolution. Too early to tell at this time which way it will go,but the one thing that is certain is the situation that exists now can't continue to exist. It IS going to go one way or the other. Governor Ralph Northam (just remembered his name) has gone too far now to back off,and thinks he now has total control over Virginia and has no intention of backing off.

This could get ugly quickly if the gun confiscation begins and shooting starts,which then causes gun owners from surrounding states to pick up their guns to go help the Virginia Militia.

Northham would have no option but activate the NG,but who knows which side they would show up to support? When that fails,his only option is to request federal troops,which would mean the 82nd Abn Division IF President Trump would give them to him,which would be a big surprise to me. Then the next question would be "How many of the enlisted swine in the 82nd Abn Division would shoot other Americans to help gun confiscation? Would they just refuse their orders and sit in protest,or would they join the rebels,bringing their equipment with them?

Don't say this CAN'T happen,either. I agree that it is unlikely,but don't forget,the British didn't think Americans would rise up to fight the Crown,either.

ALL it could take to light off that powder keg is ONE tv broadcast of Police,NG,and/or Federal troops dragging the dead bodies of a local family out of their house because they refused to turn their guns over,and it would be Game ON!

Unintended Consequences is more than the name of a movie.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

We are not going to have to imagine it for long because it is going to be a reality within a year in Virginia. The leftist weasel the yankee immigrants elected is as serious about this stuff as a heart-attack. Unlike a lot of pols who claim to be something for personal gain,this asshat is a True Believer,and between him and Terrible Terry McAulliffe,the guy he replaced,they have appointed enough lapdog yankee weasels in positions of authority with the Va police and courts that he considers it to be a done deal he is going to get away with.

And he might. This thing could easily go to total gun confiscation,or total anarchy and revolution. Too early to tell at this time which way it will go,but the one thing that is certain is the situation that exists now can't continue to exist. It IS going to go one way or the other. Governor Ralph Northam (just remembered his name) has gone too far now to back off,and thinks he now has total control over Virginia and has no intention of backing off.

This could get ugly quickly if the gun confiscation begins and shooting starts,which then causes gun owners from surrounding states to pick up their guns to go help the Virginia Militia.

Northham would have no option but activate the NG,but who knows which side they would show up to support? When that fails,his only option is to request federal troops,which would mean the 82nd Abn Division IF President Trump would give them to him,which would be a big surprise to me. Then the next question would be "How many of the enlisted swine in the 82nd Abn Division would shoot other Americans to help gun confiscation? Would they just refuse their orders and sit in protest,or would they join the rebels,bringing their equipment with them?

Don't say this CAN'T happen,either. I agree that it is unlikely,but don't forget,the British didn't think Americans would rise up to fight the Crown,either.

ALL it could take to light off that powder keg is ONE tv broadcast of Police,NG,and/or Federal troops dragging the dead bodies of a local family out of their house because they refused to turn their guns over,and it would be Game ON!

Unintended Consequences is more than the name of a movie.

The potential for this powder keg to become more is evident to me as well. As I said, the pols are tone deaf to the desires (and, actually, the Rights) of the rural population, and with typical urban leftist liberal smugness have no problem imposing on those they view as less than themselves what they consider "good" for the masses.

If they (The Democommies in the Legislature) don't back down, this might not end well.

[sneakypete]

If they (The Democommies in the Legislature) don't back down, this might not end well.

@Smokin Joe

I guess that determination will be determined by who is hanging from the trees when the smoke finally clears,as well as each individuals POV.

I don't see a civil war as a win for anyone,but it may well be necessary to have another one to preserve individual freedoms as well as the independence of America.

Make no mistake about it,the lefties like Northam and McAulliffe seek nothing less than a One World Government under their control,and they know if they are to ever be able to feel safe in their "benign dictatorship of the left",they MUST disarm the peons. They are not personally afraid of a uprising or revolution because THEY and THEIR families have and will always have ARMED State Police and even military police units to protect them from the serfs.

Northam and the others can smugly call for gun control because THEY have armed bodyguard details protecting them and theirs 24/7,and it doesn't even cost them one thin dime.

The "good news" for YOU is that IF you contribute money and physical support for them and their campaigns,they MIGHT allow YOU to hire off-duty armed cops to protect you and your family.

[Hoodat]

Prince William supervisors approve Second Amendment sanctuary resolution

InsideNoVa.com     |     December 11, 2019, 8:43 AM

If only for a few weeks, Prince William County has joined 58 other municipalities around Virginia in declaring itself a so-called Second Amendment sanctuary.

The resolutions across the state in recent weeks are an effort to shore up support for gun owners as a new Democratic majority takes control of the General Assembly in January, with gun law reforms near the top of the agenda.

There’s also a change in leadership coming in Prince William, and it could be the first county to overturn a sanctuary resolution.

The 6-2 Republican majority approved the resolution down party lines after hours of public comment. But new supervisors that will be sworn in Jan. 6 will flip control of the board to Democrats, with a 5-3 majority — and Chair-elect Ann Wheeler has already said the board will move to overturn the Second Amendment resolution.

Four of the six Republicans who voted for the resolution Tuesday night will not be on the board in January — three of them will be replaced by Democrats.

Hundreds of residents filled the county administration building Tuesday night. Out of the more than 100 people who spoke, only one spoke in opposition.

The resolution states that the board will oppose efforts to unconstitutionally restrict Second Amendment rights, as enshrined in the U.S. and state constitutions.  .  .  .

https://wtop.com/prince-william-county/2019/12/prince-william-supervisors-approve-second-amendment-sanctuary-resolution/



Democrats on record again openly opposing the Constitution.

[mountaineer]

Source: Second Amendment Sanctuaries: Flames of Freedom, at ConcealedCarry.com

[Smokin Joe]

Source: Second Amendment Sanctuaries: Flames of Freedom, at ConcealedCarry.com

I'd say that is a pretty clear message to the legislature, and the Governor--If they aren't completely tone deaf.

[sneakypete]

I'd say that is a pretty clear message to the legislature, and the Governor--If they aren't completely tone deaf.

@Smokin Joe

You don't seriously think they give a rabid rats ass about what the "little people" think,do you? If they manage to win power back again,the "little people" will think what they are TOLD to think,if they know what is good for them.