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Red flag law tested after Jersey man has guns seized. His opponent in a lawsuit said he felt threatened.
November 23, 2019 | Frieda Powers

New Jersey’s red flag law is being tested in a case involving a man who had his guns confiscated after his former doctor reported him.

Alfred Conti had his guns taken from his home by police in September after a surgeon who had sued him for defamation called authorities to report that the 56-year-old man “became agitated”during a phone call, according to the Asbury Park Press.

A hearing was held this week in order to determine if Conti will have his guns returned to him or lose his Second Amendment right and be banned from owning a gun for a period of time.

Conti was involved in an ongoing dispute with Dr. Matthew Kaufman because he was still in pain after Kaufman performed neck surgery on him. He was reportedly dismissed from the medical practice due to his “aggressive” behavior, according to the news outlet.

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But there did not seem to be any other evidence presented showing Conti was a danger to others or himself, and police apparently found him very “cooperative”when they arrived to seize his property.

“He was very cooperative in assisting us and his conversation with us,” Officer Dan Campanella with the Rumson Police Department said at the hearing. “As far as [discussing] what had occurred, he maintained he never threatened anybody and has rightful grievances with both parties.”

“Unlike other states with red flag laws on the books, New Jersey’s law doesn’t automatically expire after a specific period of time, which means if the judge approves the order, Conti will be permanently barred from legally owning firearms unless or until the judge decides at a future point in time that the red flag order can be lifted,” Cam Edwards of Bearing Arms wrote.

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There did not seem to be evidence that the man was in danger to himself or others, yet the property was seized!!!

Guilty before proven innocent!!!  Chances are he won't get his guns back.  Also, he would lose his right to conceal carry.  This is b.s.
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A "Red Flag Law" being abused by someone with a grudge? Who could have foreseen that? :sarc:
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A "Red Flag Law" being abused by someone with a grudge? Who could have foreseen that? :sarc:

Most of us here predicted this would happen.  But people who think they are infinitely smarter than you or I on such topics assured us this would never happen.
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So far, 17 states have implemented red flag laws.  State by state gun control is taking place. There is no due process; confiscate and prove your innocence later.  Former Governor Rick Scott betrayed the people in FL and I was really surprised that he was seated as Senator. 

    California
    Colorado
    Connecticut
    Delaware
    District of Columbia
    Florida
    Hawaii (effective Jan. 1, 2020)
    Illinois
    Indiana
    Maryland
    Massachusetts
    Nevada (effective Jan. 1, 2020)
    New Jersey
    New York
    Oregon
    Rhode Island
    Vermont
    Washington

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-are-red-flag-laws-and-which-states-have-implemented-them/


« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 06:25:07 pm by libertybele »
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Here is a list of current proposed gun laws before Congress:

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22legislation%22%2C%22congress%22%3A%22116%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22gun+laws%22%7D

I did run across one bill that was pro 2A -- co-sponsored by Cruz.

55. S.1519 — 116th Congress (2019-2020) Protecting Communities and Preserving the Second Amendment Act of 2019 Sponsor: Sen. Grassley, Chuck [R-IA] (Introduced 05/16/2019) Cosponsors: (1) Committees: Senate - Judiciary
« Last Edit: November 25, 2019, 06:53:14 pm by libertybele »
Romans 12:16-21

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Most of us here predicted this would happen.  But people who think they are infinitely smarter than you or I on such topics assured us this would never happen.

False claims of domestic abuse have become a common tactic in messy divorces.

False claims of child abuse have become a common tactic in messy child custody cases.

Anonymous false claims of child abuse have been used against parents and homeschoolers to ensnare them in CPS Hell.

That is the gun-grabbers' intent in "Red Flag Laws".
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We do not needed "Red flag laws". Every single state already has  'Involuntary confinement laws" and they work just fine.
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So far, 17 states have implemented red flag laws.  State by state gun control is taking place. There is no due process; confiscate and prove your innocence later.  Former Governor Rick Scott betrayed the people in FL and I was really surprised that he was seated as Senator. 

    California
    Colorado
    Connecticut
    Delaware
    District of Columbia
    Florida
    Hawaii (effective Jan. 1, 2020)
    Illinois
    Indiana
    Maryland
    Massachusetts
    Nevada (effective Jan. 1, 2020)
    New Jersey
    New York
    Oregon
    Rhode Island
    Vermont
    Washington

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-are-red-flag-laws-and-which-states-have-implemented-them/

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I'm surprised to see Floriduh on that list. The rest are mini-communist nations,and it's expected to see them.
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I'm surprised to see Floriduh on that list. The rest are mini-communist nations,and it's expected to see them.
There are 95 counties here in Virginia, To date 23 (with more on the way) have declared themselves as "Sanctuary Counties that will defy/ ignore any and all laws that will infringe on 2nd amendments rights. I expect NOVA and Wayne county (Richmond) to be the last bastions of stupidity. Which is kind of funny since MS-13 have made serious inroads into NOVA, unless they want to keep them as their drug suppliers.
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