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Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
Tristan Justice
By Tristan Justice
November 8, 2019

The Mexican ambassador to the United States responded to Missouri Sen. Josh Hawley’s call to sanction Mexico for the recent escalation of violence from the nation’s ruling drug cartels by blaming the American public’s demand for black-market drugs.

“My government categorically rejects your recent mischaracterization on Mexico not actively combating transnational organized crime and suggesting to impose sanctions on Mexican officials,” Ambassador Martha Barcena wrote to Hawley, adding in a handwritten note at the end of the letter that she hopes to address the matter with the senator personally to discuss how to “reduce drug demand in the U.S.”

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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2019, 02:44:44 pm »
Very true, the US demand fuels the problems. We also, probably have relatively lax laws for most users as well. 

This is the way it has long been.  Now, the horse has gotten out of the barn, there are a number of sources for the violence, human trafficking, trafficking drugs around the world now.

Colombia as a main-producer and exporter stymied but it just moved to Mexico.
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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2019, 06:32:55 pm »
The existence of US drug users does not justify Mexico's decades of giving cartels a free transit pass.
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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2019, 06:47:10 pm »
Ooooh.... the drug cartels aren't gonna like that "reduce drug demand in the US" shtick from Barcena.  that would cut into their profits.  She should probably not buy any tickets for next week.   :whistle:
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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2019, 07:21:07 pm »
This degree of mayhem did not exist even around 15 years ago. There was no fentanyl then either that kills many Americans and we can't get adequate security on the border for various reasons so  yes, I think we do have plenty of blame ourselves.   We also probably don't have the stomach to severely punish drug use or drug selling. I think we are with fentanyl some but it's already at epidemic stages. Whatever happened with cleaning up one's own homestead first?

I forget, it may have happened under Obama but there were those anti-drug ads that showed, we are enriching the bad guys through drug use, the cartels.  To me, that's a good selling point, 30 years the cartels were bad but probably not nearly as it is nowadays.

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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2019, 07:34:58 pm »
American adults, have become more and more, childlike.

Voting to legalize drugs. Voting for free needle exchanges. Voting for early prison releases.

Police, aambulences carry Overdose drugs.

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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2019, 08:17:11 pm »
Prohibition doesn't work.

Over and over it creates violent organized crime that corrupts everything it comes into contact with. No amount of getting the "right people" in charge of it will fix it. It is flawed at its root and brings the same results.

Drugs are bad but the consequences to everyone else in the crossfire is worse. Mountains of regulations have been put into place from how much cash you can deposit or withdraw to no knock raids with paramilitary law enforcement and on and on are a direct result of all this. We have lost a tremendous amount of liberty to win something that is unwinnable. That ought to be obvious by now.

And just because something is decriminalized doesn't mean the government has to aid in the addiction by providing "safe" supplies.




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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 08:51:43 pm »
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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2019, 08:59:24 pm »

And just because something is decriminalized doesn't mean the government has to aid in the addiction by providing "safe" supplies.

"Harm reduction" is the cry of those who support clean needle exchaanges, etc.

That presumably applies to cops and ambulance attendants who carry drugs (Naloxone) to save people from overdoses.

https://harmreduction.org/issues/overdose-prevention/overview/overdose-basics/understanding-naloxone/



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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2019, 09:06:09 pm »
"Harm reduction" is the cry of those who support clean needle exchaanges, etc.

That presumably applies to cops and ambulance attendants who carry drugs (Naloxone) to save people from overdoses.

https://harmreduction.org/issues/overdose-prevention/overview/overdose-basics/understanding-naloxone/

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Re: Mexican Ambassador Blames Drug Cartel Violence On Addicted Americans
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2019, 12:14:22 am »
This degree of mayhem did not exist even around 15 years ago. There was no fentanyl then either that kills many Americans and we can't get adequate security on the border for various reasons so  yes, I think we do have plenty of blame ourselves.   We also probably don't have the stomach to severely punish drug use or drug selling. I think we are with fentanyl some but it's already at epidemic stages. Whatever happened with cleaning up one's own homestead first?

I forget, it may have happened under Obama but there were those anti-drug ads that showed, we are enriching the bad guys through drug use, the cartels.  To me, that's a good selling point, 30 years the cartels were bad but probably not nearly as it is nowadays.

We have that problem here in Washington.  People are starting to say no.  The old sheriff in Snohomish county was voted out because he was soft on crime.  Drug crime.  He tried to defend himself by saying people die in custody.

We need to #1 get rid of sanctuary cities.  #2 get tough on drug crime.  But we just went soft with prison reform.  Drugs are not a victimless crime.
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