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The IRS at the Breaking Point
« on: November 07, 2019, 02:48:54 pm »
The IRS at the Breaking Point

By DANIEL J. PILLA
November 6, 2019 6:30 AM


The agency and the tax-collection system it oversees are on the brink of catastrophic collapse...

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/11/irs-tax-collection-system-brink-of-collapse/
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2019, 02:49:39 pm »
Be still my heart!  Can't collapse soon enough to suit me!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2019, 02:59:20 pm »
The decline of IRS services causes real harm to real taxpayers.   Since government shutdowns are a current form of political football,  it may be wise to declare the IRS an essential agency exempt from such shutdowns.   
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2019, 03:03:41 pm »
The decline of IRS services causes real harm to real taxpayers.   Since government shutdowns are a current form of political football,  it may be wise to declare the IRS an essential agency exempt from such shutdowns.   

How about we just get rid of it entirely and replace it with something much more in keeping with the founders' ideas?

http://fairtax.org
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2019, 03:03:53 pm »
Be still my heart!  Can't collapse soon enough to suit me!

Like an overweight man losing his dentures, this could be a very good thing.

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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 03:05:20 pm »
Like an overweight man losing his dentures, this could be a very good thing.

 :yowsa: Absolutely!
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 03:24:17 pm »
How about we just get rid of it entirely and replace it with something much more in keeping with the founders' ideas?

http://fairtax.org

Don't worry, you'll get your national tax on consumption.  It will be implemented to finance Medicare for All and other prog spending initiatives.  Mark my words.   
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2019, 05:45:48 pm »
The redesigned 1040 is a disaster brought to you by politicians.  Instead of making it harder for the IRS and tax preparers to do their jobs, congress should have eliminated the loopholes that make the code a monstrosity.  No, you can't just disband the IRS.  Somebody has to collect $4 trillion to pay for all of the crap Republicans want.

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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2019, 06:10:21 pm »
The redesigned 1040 is a disaster brought to you by politicians.  Instead of making it harder for the IRS and tax preparers to do their jobs, congress should have eliminated the loopholes that make the code a monstrosity.  No, you can't just disband the IRS.  Somebody has to collect $4 trillion to pay for all of the crap Republicans want.

Oh yes, we can and we can collect all the necessary revenues without a Marxist income tax code!  Did it for over 100 years in fact.

http://fairtax.org


« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 06:11:46 pm by Bigun »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 06:27:59 pm »
Don't worry, you'll get your national tax on consumption.  It will be implemented to finance Medicare for All and other prog spending initiatives.  Mark my words.

We're not going to have a European VAT tax implemented here.  Keep dreaming.

What @Bigun is talking about is something akin to a flat tax or a fair tax.  Not yet another big government strain on a workers already stressed paycheck.
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Re: The IRS at the Breaking Point
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2019, 06:33:28 pm »
We're not going to have a European VAT tax implemented here.  Keep dreaming.

What @Bigun is talking about is something akin to a flat tax or a fair tax.  Not yet another big government strain on a workers already stressed paycheck.

Exactly right @txradioguy.  Specifically what I'm talking about is a point of retail sale only sales tax on new goods and services only.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien