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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #100 on: October 11, 2019, 12:26:32 pm »
Saw it.  Shameful.  Using dead and injured soldiers to sell his arranged invasion of Syria.  He laid it on so thick you could have cut it.

This was no troop withdrawal.  This was a withdrawal to allow an invasion by Turkey.  An arrangement that will lead to the deaths of God knows how many and the displacement of all those people.  I would support a troop withdrawal, but not as an arrangement with Turkey to get out of the way for ethnic cleansing.  A withdrawal because the area had stabilized.  Or, ISIS really was 100% gone.

Ask yourself why was it important to defeat ISIS and now it isn't?  It isn't important at all because Trump doesn't care that ISIS will be freed.

He gave his approval.

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Trump: "I Could Stand In the Middle Of Fifth Avenue And Shoot Somebody And I Wouldn't Lose Any Voters"

Posted on January 23, 2016

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/23/trump_i_could_stand_in_the_middle_of_fifth_avenue_and_shoot_somebody_and_i_wouldnt_lose_any_voters.html

Thanks for the feedback. You are correct the troops that were there were to ensure the stability of the region and also to keep ISIS in check.  Well, we shall see what happens as back in March Trump declared that ISIS is 100% defeated. He also just commented that he has beaten ISIS decisively. I believe Graham is correct in that this will be the biggest mistake he made in his presidency.

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-already-beaten-isis-decisively-syria-doesnt-want-bring-back-troops-1464586

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/18/trump-isis-terrorists-defeated-foreign-policy-225816
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #101 on: October 11, 2019, 12:29:18 pm »
This was not Pence's finest speech ... he's given much better, IMO.  But POTUS also spoke about the wall @libertybele   He had a little more to say ---   happy77

@Right_in_Virginia thanks for your input and the recap.  I was glad to see that Trump drew the crowd in MN that he did.

He has another year to make good on his promise of the wall and I'm still hoping he will leave the 2A untouched.  In my books he still has displayed a tremendous amount of patriotism and has done some good ... obviously I feel his recent move in the ME was a mistake.

I also believe that he will have a very difficult year ahead of him with all the corruption and mudslinging.  I do pray for him and his family.  To me he looks worn and tired and that is concerning.
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #102 on: October 11, 2019, 03:15:17 pm »
Trump said the wall was being built.

He said 2nd amendment is safe.

He said ISIS is 100% defeated and at that time, a heckler was shouting out "liar" and Trump said "get him out".   Of course, ISIS is not defeated 100% but it's certainly something that they've been beaten back and no thanks to the Russians or Syrian President really.

Still, despite those complaining, the course of the country is 100% better, oh, I don't know, let's say, it is much better than it was, immensely so.

He mentioned Christians in that region, overall,

Here, this guy, John Gilmore seems to be a fairly good reporter on all of this, independent.

https://twitter.com/shabbosgoy

Protesters seemed to set fire to Trump merchandise:

https://neonnettle.com/news/9076-anti-trump-protests-explode-in-minneapolis-as-activists-burn-maga-hats

Like another Seattle or Portland but the crowd itself was great.

You know, when he appeared in El Paso, the bill was over half a million, apparently the same last night,  it sounds like they are just stiffing the bill, fine with me, if these places are overcharging. El Paso hasn't been paid yet.

Spoke on pro-life issues too, covered about everything.

More coverage here, under the hash tag, #TrumpMpls:

https://twitter.com/hashtag/TrumpMpls?src=hashtag_click

Now, from one shot of WCCO I saw, the protesters did not look to big, anyway, pretty good coverage.
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #103 on: October 11, 2019, 03:58:53 pm »
This was not Pence's finest speech ... he's given much better, IMO.  But POTUS also spoke about the wall @libertybele   He had a little more to say ---   happy77

"We had to use the greatest patchwork of financing in history... but that sucker is going up  and it's the finest, strongest wall there is.  It's steel, it's concrete, it's deep,  .... it's a thing of beauty and it's going to keep bad people out of our country!"

@Right_in_Virginia

IMNSHO,somebody needs to whisper in his ear to stop implying that ALL illegal aliens are "bad" people. Many are people who are just desperate to live a better life,and mean no one any harm. There is nothing wrong with that,and it is a desire anybody can understand. Many would actually be assets that would be a hell of an improvement over some  of the native-born scum we have now. We just need the ability to screen them before allowing any of them into our country.

He should start calling them what they are,aliens looking to be illegal aliens.
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #104 on: October 11, 2019, 04:26:26 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

IMNSHO,somebody needs to whisper in his ear to stop implying that ALL illegal aliens are "bad" people. Many are people who are just desperate to live a better life,and mean no one any harm. There is nothing wrong with that,and it is a desire anybody can understand. Many would actually be assets that would be a hell of an improvement over some  of the native-born scum we have now. We just need the ability to screen them before allowing any of them into our country.

He should start calling them what they are,aliens looking to be illegal aliens.

Two things @sneakypete no there is nothing wrong with those seeking a better life, but there IS something wrong with them coming here ILLEGALLY!!  The other problem is that the U.N. is involved and determining who is granted asylum and deciding where to place them including in the U.S.  The U.N. needs to stay the heck out of our business.  They've done such a stellar job with this issue over in the UK and Germany!  /s
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #105 on: October 11, 2019, 04:35:39 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

IMNSHO,somebody needs to whisper in his ear to stop implying that ALL illegal aliens are "bad" people.

I don't think the President was @sneakypete  For a fuller context, POTUS has always included and frequently talks about drug dealers and human traffickers in addition to rapists and murderers as being among the "bad people" the wall will help prevent from entering the country illegally.  He just didn't itemize the list last night.   happy77

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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #106 on: October 11, 2019, 04:39:17 pm »
Two things @sneakypete no there is nothing wrong with those seeking a better life, but there IS something wrong with them coming here ILLEGALLY!!  The other problem is that the U.N. is involved and determining who is granted asylum and deciding where to place them including in the U.S.  The U.N. needs to stay the heck out of our business.  They've done such a stellar job with this issue over in the UK and Germany!  /s

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No argument from me on either point. I pretty much wrote the same thing about illegals in my post,and it HAS to be illegal for Congress,the Prisident,or anyone else to pass on administrative power over the US population to foreign sources. I would go so far as to call it treason,and no treaty ever written can be legal that authorizes treason.
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #107 on: October 11, 2019, 09:14:08 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia

IMNSHO,somebody needs to whisper in his ear to stop implying that ALL illegal aliens are "bad" people. Many are people who are just desperate to live a better life,and mean no one any harm. There is nothing wrong with that,and it is a desire anybody can understand. Many would actually be assets that would be a hell of an improvement over some  of the native-born scum we have now. We just need the ability to screen them before allowing any of them into our country.

He should start calling them what they are,aliens looking to be illegal aliens.

They are bad.  They are breaking the law.  That used to be wrong.  Now its right to people like you.  Coming to make a better life on the backs of American taxpayers.  Coming to get their free deliveries.  Free surgeries.  Free cancer treatments.  Free food and help with housing .  Cash assistance.  Dental and free meals in the schools for their children.  That's bad and it needs to stop.

Furthermore you talk about making a better life but many join up with gangs.  A very high percentage of illegal immigrants are represented in our prison systems too.  That's not bad?  They come from Socialism and they want Socialism.  And those good people are the ones bringing the help Democrats need to turn this country into a socialist nation.  And we know that isn't far off.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #108 on: October 11, 2019, 09:26:38 pm »
People should really listen to the entire display Trump put on.  Disgusting.  Playing out an affair of the FBI.  I think people like him for the entertainment.  It works because society is morally bankrupt.  They like that stuff.  I don't.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2019, 09:31:39 pm »
People should really listen to the entire display Trump put on.  Disgusting.  Playing out an affair of the FBI.  I think people like him for the entertainment.  It works because society is morally bankrupt.  They like that stuff.  I don't.

The only difference between us and Rome's "Bread and Circuses" is there hasn't been any real bloodletting...yet.

Dems/Antifa vs. Trump Brigades? My money's on the Brigadiers.
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #110 on: October 11, 2019, 10:04:25 pm »
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They are bad.  They are breaking the law.  That used to be wrong.  Now its right to people like you.


@Chosen Daughter 

I'm going to tell Jesus you are lying about me! You are going to go to hell for sure!

 
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Coming to make a better life on the backs of American taxpayers.


Once again,lying by implying that ALL of them are coming here to do that. It's simply not true. Some are and some aren't. The main focus should be on separating the illegals from the legal aliens. Or do you have a problem with foreigners who are here legally?


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Coming to get their free deliveries.  Free surgeries.  Free cancer treatments.  Free food and help with housing .  Cash assistance.  Dental and free meals in the schools for their children.

Almost sounds like they are on Social Security,doesn't it?   

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Furthermore you talk about making a better life but many join up with gangs.

And many don't. My sister married man whose parents immigrated here from Mexico. He grew up to own and  operate a very successful body and paint shop. So successful that when I visted with them in the 80's he owed rental property,and had enough money to send his youngest son to medical school,and that son ended up becoming a brain surgeon at a prestigious hospital.

He even had enough money to pay lawyers to try to keep his oldest son out of prison. He was a stereotypical "cholo",and there was nothing so stupid he wouldn't do it,while whining about how the white man won't give Chicano's a chance. IIRC,he had children by 5 different women on welfare and in public housing,and never paid a dime in child support because he never had a legal income in his life.

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  A very high percentage of illegal immigrants are represented in our prison systems too.  That's not bad?


Yes,it is. When did I ever say it wasn't?

 
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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
« Reply #111 on: October 11, 2019, 10:07:36 pm »
They are bad.  They are breaking the law.  That used to be wrong.  Now its right to people like you.  Coming to make a better life on the backs of American taxpayers.  Coming to get their free deliveries.  Free surgeries.  Free cancer treatments.  Free food and help with housing .  Cash assistance.  Dental and free meals in the schools for their children.  That's bad and it needs to stop.

I break the law when I don't buckle up.  That used to be OK.  Your points are a better argument against the socialism that is afforded to everyone who lives in the USA.

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Furthermore you talk about making a better life but many join up with gangs.  A very high percentage of illegal immigrants are represented in our prison systems too.  That's not bad?

There are 20 million illegals in the US.  The number who are gang members is a booger.  Tell me your ethnic group and I'll tell you your faults.   

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Re: LIVE THREAD Trump Rally Tonight: Minneapolis, MN 8:00pm EDT Target Center
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@Chosen Daughter 

I'm going to tell Jesus you are lying about me! You are going to go to hell for sure!

 

Once again,lying by implying that ALL of them are coming here to do that. It's simply not true. Some are and some aren't. The main focus should be on separating the illegals from the legal aliens. Or do you have a problem with foreigners who are here legally?


Almost sounds like they are on Social Security,doesn't it?   

And many don't. My sister married man whose parents immigrated here from Mexico. He grew up to own and  operate a very successful body and paint shop. So successful that when I visted with them in the 80's he owed rental property,and had enough money to send his youngest son to medical school,and that son ended up becoming a brain surgeon at a prestigious hospital.

He even had enough money to pay lawyers to try to keep his oldest son out of prison. He was a stereotypical "cholo",and there was nothing so stupid he wouldn't do it,while whining about how the white man won't give Chicano's a chance. IIRC,he had children by 5 different women on welfare and in public housing,and never paid a dime in child support because he never had a legal income in his life.
 

Yes,it is. When did I ever say it wasn't?

 

Well I have told this forum that our family has Hispanic heritage.  I also explained about one of the people who I admire most is Hispanic.  But I stick with what I posted.  The invasion this summer is as I said it is.  And we can all give examples of good Hispanic people.  And people are just people, but with influences that make them who they are.  What I posted can be verified by statistics and the President, ICE, Homeland Security and Border Patrol.  The socialism is well documented by statistics and anyone can look them up.

Also I am not anti immigrants.  I am for immigration legally at the right rates and according to the needs of the country.  This country should legislate laws that protect Americans from taking on the burden of people it says are needed for low income jobs like agriculture.  They should also cease using low income workers merely because they don't want to pay American wages.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.