Oberlin College appeals $31 million Gibson bakery decision (Again)

[Free Vulcan]

You're dealing with the cult mentality of the commie Left. They aren't going to back down till they're beat down.

[Smokin Joe]

Can you believe the smug wedindonuffin attitude of the new Oberlin President.

Yep. Liberals. They can do no wrong. Just ask 'em.

They also don't learn from their mistakes, or they'd never be pushing the very social mores and type of Government that have cost the lives of countless millions and destroyed formidable nations in the past.

I wouldn't send my kid to a College that can't/won't learn from its mistakes.

[Smokin Joe]

The college trustees should can the president of the college for violating his/her fiduciary duty. Throwing good money into a lost cause is such a violation.

Appeals courts should have the option (with criteria) of ruling that an appeal is frivolous and to significantly increase judgments as a consequence of abusing the court system with frivolous appeals.

I believe the appeal can be dismissed with prejudice, which essentially means the matter is closed and not to be brought up again.
Actually, I'd be tempted, were I a judge, to reinstate the former fine and add costs.

[Cyber Liberty]

His head is dead.

"Dead Head Ted?"  Does he miss Jerry Garcia?

[Wingnut]

"Dead Head Ted?"  Does he miss Jerry Garcia?

LOL that'll work but I was thinking more along the "Dirty Laundry" angle!

[Wingnut]

Merged like topics/

[IsailedawayfromFR]

The college trustees should can the president of the college for violating his/her fiduciary duty. Throwing good money into a lost cause is such a violation.

Guess you are not quite up on the background here.

The trustees are moving in exactly the opposite direction. 

They got rid of the President who handled this initially and brought in a lawyer as President instead to deal with the lawsuit.  She is married to a radical who adores Malcom X.  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,365326.msg1994410.html#msg1994410

A former president believes Oberlin should pay up and apologize but he is ignored. 
Former Oberlin College President: “Pay the court’s judgment, don’t fight it; apologize to the Gibson family and to the community”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/former-oberlin-college-president-pay-the-courts-judgment-dont-fight-it-apologize-to-the-gibson-family-and-to-the-community/

As far as Trustees are concerned, they believe they are doing their duty to not apologize and pursue via appeal.  Here's the college's attitude to deal with race relations from its website:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,366415.msg1997275.html#msg1997275

Oh, and the Head of the Trustees?  He works for George Soros, or at least until earlier this year.

[PeteS in CA]

Guess you are not quite up on the background here.

The trustees are moving in exactly the opposite direction. 

They got rid of the President who handled this initially and brought in a lawyer as President instead to deal with the lawsuit.  She is married to a radical who adores Malcom X.  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,365326.msg1994410.html#msg1994410

A former president believes Oberlin should pay up and apologize but he is ignored. 
Former Oberlin College President: “Pay the court’s judgment, don’t fight it; apologize to the Gibson family and to the community”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/former-oberlin-college-president-pay-the-courts-judgment-dont-fight-it-apologize-to-the-gibson-family-and-to-the-community/

As far as Trustees are concerned, they believe they are doing their duty to not apologize and pursue via appeal.  Here's the college's attitude to deal with race relations from its website:
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,366415.msg1997275.html#msg1997275

Oh, and the Head of the Trustees?  He works for George Soros, or at least until earlier this year.

  @IsailedawayfromFR, did you notice that I used the word "should"? That was intentional, not an accident, mmkay?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

@IsailedawayfromFR, did you notice that I used the word "should"? That was intentional, not an accident, mmkay?

That should is for them really a won't.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Another article with details on the court case between bakery and Oberlin.

Oberlin spent $5 million to defend itself.  This is likely more than the bakery would have settled for in the first place.  Now on appeal it has hired some even higher-priced lawyers.

And Oberlin attacked the jury, then the judge, then the bakery for the verdict handed out.

No apologies, no admission of guilt.  This is liberal expression in all its nasty, gory details.

Conservative Law Professor Challenges Campus Left on Free Speech (and Wins Them Over)
The Daily Signal 11.11.19
https://www.countable.us/articles/37724-conservative-law-professor-challenges-campus-left-free-speech-wins

[Maj. Bill Martin]

They're gonan rack up more in attorney fees if they keep fighting this than what they owed the bakery in the first place.

I understand your point, but the appeal will cost much less.  The total defense through trial were in the neighborhood of $5M, but that includes a very long period of intense discovery, battles over that discovery, the filing of all those motions, and then of course the trial.  All of that is done and need not be repeated.  The appeal is basically all written submissions apart from an oral argument that will last somewhere around an hour or two.  I'd be shocked if the costs of the appeal reached $1M.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Oh, and here's an amusing piece written by the Emeritus Chair of Africana(whatever that is) studies at Oberlin.

https://oberlinreview.org/19144/opinions/college-should-respect-any-future-appeal-decision/

A few excerpts belittling the verdict of the jury and judge:

1. Raimondo was on the scene to ensure the safety of the students, to make sure that the deaths that occurred at the Kent State University Vietnam War protests in 1970 were not repeated in a similar tragedy in Oberlin. That objective was achieved.

2. Outsiders in support of Gibson’s could have shown up with guns.

8. The College’s image or reputation to attract students may have been irreparably damaged by the charges that it tried to hurt Gibson’s.

9. The first jury’s verdict stains much of Oberlin College’s storied history and legend, as well as that of those who have worked and currently work at the College.

The appeals process may not change that decision, but history needs to record that the College fought valiantly to get the facts right

Desperation

Looks like the dean who caused all this trouble is finally stepping down now.  Had to wait for a mass murderer to rampage so no one would notice.  She did such an excellent job for public relations and hiring dirtbag lawyers to the tune of $5 million....

Vice President and Dean of Students Steps Down to Return to Faculty
Ella Moxley, News Editor|February 5, 2021

Meredith Raimondo will step down from her role as Vice President and Dean of Students at the end of the spring 2021 semester. After taking a sabbatical, Raimondo will return to her previous position as a tenured faculty member in 2023.

Raimondo was named dean of students in November 2016, after starting the position on an interim basis a few months earlier in July. During her tenure, Raimondo dealt with significant challenges, including a structural budget deficit, the Gibsons Bakery lawsuit, and a global pandemic. Raimondo’s departure was announced on Jan. 29 in an email to the Oberlin community.

“During her nearly five years as dean, Meredith elevated Oberlin’s dining options; strengthened the collaboration between Student Senate and other student organizations and the senior leadership team; and forged important partnerships among students, staff, and faculty in support of initiatives such as OC Votes and ObieSafe,” President Ambar wrote. “We thank Meredith for her deep dedication to this work.” https://oberlinreview.org/22398/news/vice-president-and-dean-of-students-steps-down-to-return-to-faculty/

[Hoodat]

They're gonan rack up more in attorney fees if they keep fighting this than what they owed the bakery in the first place.

We can only hope.

[PeteS in CA]

Judging by this, https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/live-gibsons-bakery-v-oberlin-college-appeal-oral-argument/ , it looks like the case is still entangled in courts, complicated somewhat by Covid. That November 2020 blogpost was the most recent info I could find on the case. I wonder if this female's resignation augurs a decision Oberlin won't like.

[Sled Dog]

That is not German to what is happening now.

Actually, it sounds exactly like something those other national socialists would do.