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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2019, 09:21:05 AM »
 

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True,it's just about the survival of America as a free and independent nation,and neither of you care about that.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2019, 09:52:35 AM »


@Chosen Daughter @roamer_1

True,it's just about the survival of America as a free and independent nation,and neither of you care about that.

If I might add; there is a huge difference between McCain, Romney and Trump with Trump so far being much more to the right and has begun to unravel the corruption.  That truly IMHO is what Romney is afraid of; his corruption unveiled.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2019, 10:02:18 AM »
If I might add; there is a huge difference between McCain, Romney and Trump with Trump so far being much more to the right and has begun to unravel the corruption.  That truly IMHO is what Romney is afraid of; his corruption unveiled.

Obviously Romney represents the interests of those who've been profiting from the status quo.

A curious person would ask themselves why he and his like hate Trump so much. Perhaps they're motivated by that tiny sliver of their psyche that actually contains some principles. But I doubt it.


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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2019, 10:51:58 AM »


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True,it's just about the survival of America as a free and independent nation,and neither of you care about that.

Bullcrap Pete.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #29 on: October 08, 2019, 10:53:48 AM »
If I might add; there is a huge difference between McCain, Romney and Trump with Trump so far being much more to the right and has begun to unravel the corruption.  That truly IMHO is what Romney is afraid of; his corruption unveiled.

I see no difference whatsoever. SOSDD.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2019, 10:59:15 AM »
If I might add; there is a huge difference between McCain, Romney and Trump with Trump so far being much more to the right and has begun to unravel the corruption.  That truly IMHO is what Romney is afraid of; his corruption unveiled.

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I have no doubt Romney is corrupt,but compared the the Bush,Clinton,and Obama crime families,he is a shoplifter at most.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2019, 11:05:29 AM »
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Obviously Romney represents the interests of those who've been profiting from the status quo.

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There are damn few party regulars that doesn't apply to,and they are all ones from mostly rural states whose names you never hear mentioned. Today's alleged Republican Party is in partnership with the Dim Party to overthrow America and make us a cog in "Worldwide Government,Inc".

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A curious person would ask themselves why he and his like hate Trump so much.


Seems pretty obvious to me. He is a threat to the Good Old Boy system they have in place. Not only that,but he is an outsider who doesn't have to kiss any rings t get media attention. The alleged Republicans can't do to Trump what they did to Newt because Trump is not a career politician.

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Perhaps they're motivated by that tiny sliver of their psyche that actually contains some principles. But I doubt it.

Me,too. You have to HAVE principles before you can violate them.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2019, 11:08:19 AM »
@skeeter

There are damn few party regulars that doesn't apply to,and they are all ones from mostly rural states whose names you never hear mentioned. Today's alleged Republican Party is in partnership with the Dim Party to overthrow America and make us a cog in "Worldwide Government,Inc".
 

Seems pretty obvious to me. He is a threat to the Good Old Boy system they have in place. Not only that,but he is an outsider who doesn't have to kiss any rings t get media attention. The alleged Republicans can't do to Trump what they did to Newt because Trump is not a career politician.

Me,too. You have to HAVE principles before you can violate them.

At the risk of being tagged with 'fanboi' I'm glad Trump came along, if for no other reason than he exposed a whole bunch of phonies.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #33 on: October 08, 2019, 11:16:39 AM »
Bullcrap Pete.

Screaming "bullcrap" at the truth does not change its veracity.

We all get that you don't want this to be a binary choice, just as we all understand that this election is precisely that. The next President will be either Donald Trump, or whomever the Dems nominate. That is, by definition binary. So you can stomp your feet, take your ball and go home, or curl up and cry about how unfair it is to have such a binary choice....just quit pretending that what you're doing is anything less than a tantrum.

While you're at it, quit pretending that anyone other than the two individuals laid out in my 3rd sentence above has any chance at becoming the President in 2020.

And finally, quit pretending that this election is anything less than the existential battle sneakypete defines it to be in his "snarky" but spot on statement above.

In summary, quit pretending and face reality...and then act rationally in response. That's all any of us are asking you to do. As yet, you all seem determined to live in a fantasyland of "Presidential resignations, 3rd Party Champions rising to win the White House, and holier than thou votes cast for holier than thou candidates with zero chances of winning anything"...all whilst the Mongol-like hordes of Socialist "reform" pound at our gates and demand the fall of the Republic.

You fiddle, while Rome falls. Smart.

And please, I hope none of you are childish and ignorant enough to retort that there's no difference between a Trump presidency and the Socialists...as accepting that requires the kind of vacuous suspension of facts, evidence and truth that is beneath the intellect and dignity of this board.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #34 on: October 08, 2019, 11:25:07 AM »
At the risk of being tagged with 'fanboi' I'm glad Trump came along, if for no other reason than he exposed a whole bunch of phonies.

@skeeter

And that REALLY riled up the alleged Republican fanbois into a stage of rabid hatred for Trump.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #35 on: October 08, 2019, 11:31:10 AM »
If I might add; there is a huge difference between McCain, Romney and Trump with Trump so far being much more to the right and has begun to unravel the corruption.  That truly IMHO is what Romney is afraid of; his corruption unveiled.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2019, 11:32:08 AM »

True,it's just about the survival of America as a free and independent nation,and neither of you care about that.

That task is made more difficult by the deficiencies of the current incumbent.  I oppose his impeachment, but he needs to be replaced as the GOP nominee.   
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #37 on: October 08, 2019, 11:34:58 AM »
Screaming "bullcrap" at the truth does not change its veracity.

We all get that you don't want this to be a binary choice, just as we all understand that this election is precisely that. The next President will be either Donald Trump, or whomever the Dems nominate. That is, by definition binary. So you can stomp your feet, take your ball and go home, or curl up and cry about how unfair it is to have such a binary choice....just quit pretending that what you're doing is anything less than a tantrum.

While you're at it, quit pretending that anyone other than the two individuals laid out in my 3rd sentence above has any chance at becoming the President in 2020.

And finally, quit pretending that this election is anything less than the existential battle sneakypete defines it to be in his "snarky" but spot on statement above.

In summary, quit pretending and face reality...and then act rationally in response. That's all any of us are asking you to do. As yet, you all seem determined to live in a fantasyland of "Presidential resignations, 3rd Party Champions rising to win the White House, and holier than thou votes cast for holier than thou candidates with zero chances of winning anything"...all whilst the Mongol-like hordes of Socialist "reform" pound at our gates and demand the fall of the Republic.

You fiddle, while Rome falls. Smart.

And please, I hope none of you are childish and ignorant enough to retort that there's no difference between a Trump presidency and the Socialists...as accepting that requires the kind of vacuous suspension of facts, evidence and truth that is beneath the intellect and dignity of this board.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #38 on: October 08, 2019, 11:43:58 AM »
That task is made more difficult by the deficiencies of the current incumbent.  I oppose his impeachment, but he needs to be replaced as the GOP nominee.

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The problem is there is no one to replace him that has the stones to do what needs to be done. One more "creature of the system" in the Oval Office at this moment in history,and America is done.

You don't see Pacifists or handicapped people being sent in to rescue hostages,you send in people who can and WILL fight,and America is currently being held hostage by the globalists of the RepublaDim Party and needs to be rescued.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #39 on: October 08, 2019, 11:59:25 AM »
That task is made more difficult by the deficiencies of the current incumbent.  I oppose his impeachment, but he needs to be replaced as the GOP nominee.

As some old French writer once said (in Italian)Il meglio รจ l'inimico del bene
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #40 on: October 08, 2019, 12:13:45 PM »
@Jazzhead

The problem is there is no one to replace him that has the stones to do what needs to be done. One more "creature of the system" in the Oval Office at this moment in history,and America is done.

You don't see Pacifists or handicapped people being sent in to rescue hostages,you send in people who can and WILL fight,and America is currently being held hostage by the globalists of the RepublaDim Party and needs to be rescued.

Cut me a break.  Trump's not the only fighter in the GOP.   But he is the one who is both likely to be re-nominated and just as likely to lose and take the Senate with him.   That's reality as I see it, and why I cannot stay silent as the GOP commits electoral suicide.    With a year to go before the elections,  there is plenty of time to replace him as the nominee.   I see it as imperative, given the increasingly likely scenario of the Dems nominating a socialist. 

Grow some stones, people!   
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #41 on: October 08, 2019, 01:31:50 PM »


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Cut me a break.  Trump's not the only fighter in the GOP.
 


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Really? Name the other one.

 
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But he is the one who is both likely to be re-nominated and just as likely to lose and take the Senate with him.
 

He was also considered to be the most likely one to lose the last election. How did that work out for you?

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That's reality as I see it, and why I cannot stay silent as the GOP commits electoral suicide.    With a year to go before the elections,  there is plenty of time to replace him as the nominee.   I see it as imperative, given the increasingly likely scenario of the Dems nominating a socialist. 

Suicide would be nominating one of the usual "go along to get along" RINO  Globalist suspects.

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Grow some stones, people!

You have no idea how ironic that sounds,do you?
 
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #42 on: October 08, 2019, 04:10:47 PM »
Screaming "bullcrap" at the truth does not change its veracity.

It was all that needed said. Pete knows better.

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We all get that you don't want this to be a binary choice, just as we all understand that this election is precisely that. The next President will be either Donald Trump, or whomever the Dems nominate. That is, by definition binary. So you can stomp your feet, take your ball and go home, or curl up and cry about how unfair it is to have such a binary choice....just quit pretending that what you're doing is anything less than a tantrum.

It is not a binary choice. There is also the choice of non-participation, at the very least.
I will refuse to participate in that which I cannot support.
And that will ever be my criteria.

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While you're at it, quit pretending that anyone other than the two individuals laid out in my 3rd sentence above has any chance at becoming the President in 2020.

So what? If people are unwilling to stand upon the principle things they believe in, things will never change. In that I am leading by example. All you need to obtain my vote is a conservative to support. It is a simple thing.

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And finally, quit pretending that this election is anything less than the existential battle sneakypete defines it to be in his "snarky" but spot on statement above.

Existential my ass. There is no difference between the two sides. Both spend money we don't have, and both are statist, supporting a behemoth of a federal government. On those two points alone, no other criteria are necessary - There is no appreciable difference, and y'all just think you're better at it.

I am never, ever going to support that, period.

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In summary, quit pretending and face reality...and then act rationally in response. That's all any of us are asking you to do.

And that is precisely what I am doing. If one supports Conservatism, then it only follows that one must vote for Conservatives. One doesn't get more conservatives by voting for liberals, as the current state of the Republican party proves perfectly. That IS the reality.

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As yet, you all seem determined to live in a fantasyland of "Presidential resignations, 3rd Party Champions rising to win the White House, and holier than thou votes cast for holier than thou candidates with zero chances of winning anything"...all whilst the Mongol-like hordes of Socialist "reform" pound at our gates and demand the fall of the Republic.

You fiddle, while Rome falls. Smart.

If the other choice is to support y'all, then fiddling is the proper choice - The fiscal irresponsibility alone requires that I withhold my vote. Because Rome has already fallen unless we return to principle things, and damn soon. You are stopping nothing. You are opening the gates.

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And please, I hope none of you are childish and ignorant enough to retort that there's no difference between a Trump presidency and the Socialists...as accepting that requires the kind of vacuous suspension of facts, evidence and truth that is beneath the intellect and dignity of this board.

Certainly there is no difference. The difference would be the very principles I am seeking, and they are not to be found in the current administration.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #43 on: October 08, 2019, 04:19:04 PM »
The fiscal irresponsibility alone requires that I withhold my vote.

I understand your position vis a vis the general election, @roamer_1 . Like you, I blanche at "lesser of two evils" choices.  But don't fail to vote in the primary - Mark Sanford has an unusually consistent record when it comes to fiscal responsibility.

Sanford may not win, but dammit I will enjoy voting FOR a candidate I respect, even in a lost cause.   
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #44 on: October 08, 2019, 04:48:43 PM »
It was all that needed said. Pete knows better.

It is not a binary choice. There is also the choice of non-participation, at the very least.
I will refuse to participate in that which I cannot support.
And that will ever be my criteria.

So what? If people are unwilling to stand upon the principle things they believe in, things will never change. In that I am leading by example. All you need to obtain my vote is a conservative to support. It is a simple thing.

Existential my ass. There is no difference between the two sides. Both spend money we don't have, and both are statist, supporting a behemoth of a federal government. On those two points alone, no other criteria are necessary - There is no appreciable difference, and y'all just think you're better at it.

I am never, ever going to support that, period.

And that is precisely what I am doing. If one supports Conservatism, then it only follows that one must vote for Conservatives. One doesn't get more conservatives by voting for liberals, as the current state of the Republican party proves perfectly. That IS the reality.

If the other choice is to support y'all, then fiddling is the proper choice - The fiscal irresponsibility alone requires that I withhold my vote. Because Rome has already fallen unless we return to principle things, and damn soon. You are stopping nothing. You are opening the gates.

Certainly there is no difference. The difference would be the very principles I am seeking, and they are not to be found in the current administration.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #45 on: October 08, 2019, 05:06:02 PM »
I understand your position vis a vis the general election, @roamer_1 . Like you, I blanche at "lesser of two evils" choices.  But don't fail to vote in the primary - Mark Sanford has an unusually consistent record when it comes to fiscal responsibility.


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You can bet money I will be looking at Sanford. He was a high 90's rated Conservative before his fall from grace... And yes, his fiscal conservatism is unimpeachable.

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Sanford may not win, but dammit I will enjoy voting FOR a candidate I respect, even in a lost cause.   

That is my standard, and one I have followed since 07... I will vote *for* someone, every time, or I will not vote at all. I refuse to participate in this 'lesser evil' mentality. It has brought us to the brink of destruction.

In the end, that is all your vote can be - a positive affirmation. I will not squander that endorsement anymore.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #46 on: October 08, 2019, 05:22:15 PM »
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Of course you will never convince the folks that believe professional wreatling is real... :shrug:

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« Reply #47 on: October 08, 2019, 05:24:00 PM »
To applaud stupidity, is to become its accomplice.

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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2019, 06:06:54 PM »
To applaud stupidity, is to become its accomplice.

The stupidity is yours. You keep doing the same thing expecting a different result. Until enough people have enough courage to get out of the herd mentality nothing will change. Every election is the same old voting in fear of the other party no matter how bad your party's candidate is. It is the path to ruin but you brilliant thinkers can't seem to change course no matter how dire things become. You scream but the other is worse! So what. You're determined to ride the country into the ground which is exactly where it is going. You excuse it by saying it is happening ever so slightly more slowly with your team. Again, so what. Down is down.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2019, 10:08:25 PM »
Of course you will never convince the folks that believe professional wreatling is real... :shrug:

I heard that, @montanajoe , I truly did.   :beer:


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