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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #100 on: October 09, 2019, 08:08:54 PM »
Nope, not that I can see.  But we will all get to live with the consequences. 

Well, maybe putting a bull in the china shop wasn't such a great idea.

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I'll continue to work to help my local politicians, but I give up on all the rest.  I can't afford to be the only one in the foxhole, which is the way it is today.  Drawbridge up.

Me too. there is nothing for Conservatism in the current federal climate.
I will keep working with the TEA Party, and continue to put a shoulder to the CP, and I will vote for any Conservative I can find, regardless of party.

But the Republican national leadership needs to go. All of it.
Maybe if it is restructured I could come back. Time will tell.
As it is, it is useless, and has been my entire life.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #101 on: October 09, 2019, 08:09:13 PM »
He will be anyway, because he's now officially beneath the protections of the law.  Even the so-called "conservatives" are rubbing their hands with glee. Its more important to be seen as having been correct, sailing over the waterfall with all flags flying, than to stoop to insisting the Bill of Rights apply to everybody, even Presidents they don't like.

You know darn well that's not my position.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #102 on: October 09, 2019, 08:11:24 PM »
Don't be foolish.  It more than a year from the election.  It is precisely the time for the two parties to be figuring out who will lead them.   What is wrong with constructive opposition to Trump from fellow Republicans and conservatives?  No one here wants to see the Democrats win.

Nope.  I'm gone.  I don't want to see the Rats win either, but the Republican'ts decided to split the party so we can't get elected anybody dog catcher anymore.  Ohmygosh!  He tweeted a mean thing!  Let him be Impeached!  We can't even agree a President should be subject to due process anymore.  One has to be a Democrat now, if he expects to lead.

As the last man in the foxhole, I have to tell you, "You're on your own now."

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #103 on: October 09, 2019, 08:13:59 PM »
You know darn well that's not my position.

I don't care.  That may not be your desire, but that is the effect and that's what matters.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #104 on: October 09, 2019, 08:15:34 PM »
Well, maybe putting a bull in the china shop wasn't such a great idea.

Me too. there is nothing for Conservatism in the current federal climate.
I will keep working with the TEA Party, and continue to put a shoulder to the CP, and I will vote for any Conservative I can find, regardless of party.

But the Republican national leadership needs to go. All of it.
Maybe if it is restructured I could come back. Time will tell.
As it is, it is useless, and has been my entire life.

It will be a time when the name, "United States of America" is just a phrase in an old history book.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #105 on: October 09, 2019, 08:19:05 PM »
Don't confuse prudence for nihilism.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #106 on: October 09, 2019, 08:19:34 PM »
It will be a time when the name, "United States of America" is just a phrase in an old history book.

Rightly so if we cannot return ourselves to our foundations.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #107 on: October 09, 2019, 08:29:55 PM »
I'd like to think that, without the distraction of Donald Trump and the reality show, we can convince 65 million to oppose socialism,  support a dynamic, growing economy, and vote to revive Dr. King's dream of a nation that rewards the content of individual character.

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Ain't going to happen.

The big push is towards the Singularity. Reality will become a distraction. And anyone showing signs of individual character pushed off  to the edge and labeled part of the lunatic fringe.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #108 on: October 09, 2019, 08:46:00 PM »
Don't confuse prudence for nihilism.

There is no functional difference. 
Don't call it the "Federal Government," that's an insult to the Founders.  It's a "National Government."
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #109 on: October 09, 2019, 08:49:28 PM »
Rightly so if we cannot return ourselves to our foundations.

It's too late.  The majority have figured out they can vote themselves largess from the Treasury, and you know what happens after that.  As I've noted many times:  The takers now outnumber the makers.  When we choose to stop giving, the takers will turn to violence, comfortable in their SJW "morals."  The game's been over for some time now.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #110 on: October 09, 2019, 08:52:30 PM »
Ain't going to happen.

The big push is towards the Singularity. Reality will become a distraction. And anyone showing signs of individual character pushed off  to the edge and labeled part of the lunatic fringe.

Hell, we can't even expect anybody to follow the Constitution anymore.  At this point, the Constitution is whatever Pelosi and McConnell decide it is at a given moment, and Republicans with Class are OK with that as long as they get to keep their sinecures.  Hint:  Your liberty and mine is NOT in their goal.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #111 on: October 09, 2019, 08:58:41 PM »
Cyber mused:
"It will be a time when the name, "United States of America" is just a phrase in an old history book."

I sense that time is "now".
Look at states like California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont.

Are they still part of the older, traditional "United" States?
Or do their voters and governments harbor other notions?

We are in a state of "cold civil war" right now, with states like California actively in sedition against certain federal laws (such as immigration).

It's 1857 all over again.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #112 on: October 09, 2019, 09:04:58 PM »
Cyber mused:
"It will be a time when the name, "United States of America" is just a phrase in an old history book."

I sense that time is "now".
Look at states like California, Oregon, Washington, Illinois, Maryland, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Vermont.

Are they still part of the older, traditional "United" States?
Or do their voters and governments harbor other notions?

We are in a state of "cold civil war" right now, with states like California actively in sedition against certain federal laws (such as immigration).

It's 1857 all over again.

The time is now.  Your time-frame to the Soviet States of America is off.  If the Rats get away with this coup, nobody will ever dare resist them again.

Buy more ammo, because however much you have, it isn't enough.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #113 on: October 09, 2019, 09:11:53 PM »
Rightly so if we cannot return ourselves to our foundations.

Exactly.  The very root of the problems that this country is facing is because we have failed to hold our politicians responsible and accountable for not adhering to the Constitution; the very principles upon which this country was founded. 

I know of very few Constitutional conservatives within our government; certainly Pelosi and McConnell are poor leaders.  We have vast corruption in every corner of our government including the DOJ.

I don't see that we as a country our making any headway in maintaining our Republic.  We seem to be digging a deeper hole.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #114 on: October 09, 2019, 09:19:23 PM »
Exactly.  The very root of the problems that this country is facing is because we have failed to hold our politicians responsible and accountable for not adhering to the Constitution; the very principles upon which this country was founded. 

I know of very few Constitutional conservatives within our government; certainly Pelosi and McConnell are poor leaders.  We have vast corruption in every corner of our government including the DOJ.

I don't see that we as a country our making any headway in maintaining our Republic.  We seem to be digging a deeper hole.

I think that ship has already sailed.  When people who call themselves "conservative" have signed on to the coup attempt, then it can be said the majority of the country does not want a Republic anymore.  Don't look around the foxhole, you are alone in it.  The Army deserted.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #115 on: October 09, 2019, 09:19:42 PM »
The time is now.  Your time-frame to the Soviet States of America is off.  If the Rats get away with this coup, nobody will ever dare resist them again.

Buy more ammo, because however much you have, it isn't enough.

If the coup is successful we will no longer have a two party system.  We will no longer be a Republic.  We will become a socialistic entity and when that happens, short of a revolution, there will be no come back.

In Ron Paul's book "The Revolution", the very last lines the he wrote now perhaps take on a different meaning but still rings true..."If freedom is what we want, it is ours for the taking.  Let the Revolution begin".
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #116 on: October 09, 2019, 09:19:54 PM »
Exactly.  The very root of the problems that this country is facing is because we have failed to hold our politicians responsible and accountable for not adhering to the Constitution; the very principles upon which this country was founded. 

I know of very few Constitutional conservatives within our government; certainly Pelosi and McConnell are poor leaders.  We have vast corruption in every corner of our government including the DOJ.

I don't see that we as a country our making any headway in maintaining our Republic.  We seem to be digging a deeper hole.

I see a lot of worn-out people in this country. Tired of it all. Like @Cyber Liberty. Like me. Time to do some nation-building here. Not in the ME or anywhere else, but here.

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #117 on: October 09, 2019, 09:25:42 PM »
Don't be foolish.  It more than a year from the election.  It is precisely the time for the two parties to be figuring out who will lead them.   What is wrong with constructive opposition to Trump from fellow Republicans and conservatives?  No one here wants to see the Democrats win.
How can anyone say 'constructive' and 'Romney' in the same sentence?
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« Reply #118 on: October 09, 2019, 09:27:32 PM »
I see a lot of worn-out people in this country. Tired of it all. Like @Cyber Liberty. Like me. Time to do some nation-building here. Not in the ME or anywhere else, but here.

I think the great Experiment has failed, so it's time to get local.  I'm looking at the City Council now.  I don't GAF about who's President anymore, because if they're any good they'll be toppled in favor of a group who will maintain their status quo.  We're watching it now, with people we once thought of as friends changing sides and helping the socialists.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #119 on: October 09, 2019, 09:28:20 PM »
How can anyone say 'constructive' and 'Romney' in the same sentence?

And say it with a straight face as well
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #120 on: October 09, 2019, 09:28:54 PM »
How can anyone say 'constructive' and 'Romney' in the same sentence?

With the same aplomb you will find people saying "Kasich" and "conservatism" in the same sentence.
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #121 on: October 09, 2019, 09:35:50 PM »
How can anyone say 'constructive' and 'Romney' in the same sentence?

You just did.  :shrug:

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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #122 on: October 09, 2019, 10:44:10 PM »
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« Reply #123 on: October 11, 2019, 04:16:58 PM »
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Re: Rumblings: Mitt Romney Is Weighing a Primary Challenge to Donald Trump
« Reply #124 on: October 11, 2019, 04:24:52 PM »
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Democrats will impeach as they have the votes - Senate won't convict so no point in impeaching.  You don't know what I think so you should ask instead of listing me as something I am not.   :chairbang:

I hope I am incorrect, but I thought you posted you favor Impeachment and Removal?
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