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Offline TomSea

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I know, now Trump is saying, if the Turks do not behave, he will destroy their economy. Well, maybe he knows what he's talking about.  I'm not saying he does, just stating what is going on.

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I don't think giving Turkey a green light to invade Syria so the Turks can wipe out our ally the Kurds is a good idea. In fact I think it is a
terrible idea. I want the troops home too, at the very least Trump should have told Turkey to stay out of Syria. The Turks are as bad
as the NAZIs were.

Why the hell is Turkey in NATO?  This is actually a serious question @jpsb
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Sooo.... I guess this means we'll also be (finally) pulling completely out of Afghanistan, as well.   Right?

I don't know @XenaLee    :shrug:
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I know, now Trump is saying, if the Turks do not behave, he will destroy their economy. Well, maybe he knows what he's talking about.  I'm not saying he does, just stating what is going on.

Economic sanctions "may", if at all, only work on a long-term basis.   What about the here and now urgency of folks being slaughtered?  I want the troops home as much as anybody, but I don't want the US to be the cause of allowing genocide or massacres.   It's a Catch-22.
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Where the hell would the cold war have gone without Turkey. Seriously, @jpsb

Not everything is seen in clear simple ways.

Turkey probably was a crucial cold war partner to keep tabs on the USSR; now, 30 years after the Cold War, they probably should have been booted out 10 years ago at least.

But that just means, they might be Russia's ally and that might not be the best choice.

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Economic sanctions "may", if at all, only work on a long-term basis.   What about the here and now urgency of folks being slaughtered?  I want the troops home as much as anybody, but I don't want the US to be the cause of allowing genocide or massacres.   It's a Catch-22.

I totally agree, what Graham suggested sounds a bit impotent. That was my immediate reaction.

Our nukes are also over at Incilirk airbase in Turkey.

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No...   But at least put a plan in place to get them out of harms way.

And what makes you think the Kurds would accept this?
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I totally agree, what Graham suggested sounds a bit impotent. That was my immediate reaction.

Our nukes are also over at Incilirk airbase in Turkey.

Which... makes absolutely no sense to me.  WTH?
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Name anything Trump has stood firm on.


His private parts?
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Which... makes absolutely no sense to me.  WTH?

It's a throwback to the Cold War, we had nukes there to keep the USSR/Russkies in place. That's my view, nothing expert about it.

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Don't you hate it when Romney's right?

Beam me up, Scotty! 

On an unrelated note, the firestorm surrounding the Houston Rockets' GM re: China/Hong Kong has illustrated the hypocrisy of NBA owners and players. It appears the SJW's in the NBA are bending over backwards to mollify the Chinese regime.
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How would you propose we solve the Kurdish problem @mystery-ak   They are in four different countries, fighting all of them.

Which country do we choose to fight so the Kurds can carve out a safe haven ....  even though the Kurds now in Syria don't like the Kurds in Iraq who don't like the Kurds in Turkey who don't like the Kurds in Iran. . and so forth and so on.





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Okay, if the USA had never gone over there in the first place, one can argue that ISIS never would have risen up, it's been a comedy of errors though, I think Obama deserves most of the blame.

Once can argue that...but they'd be wrong.  That's a shortsighted mistake a lot of people...including some in DC make.
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Hence the reason I stopped listening to him 3 years ago.

That explains a lot.  Thank you.    :laugh:
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Defending this stupid POTUS on his most heinous action ever.  The Kurds have been our most loyal allies in the WOT for almost 20 years.

I was wondering if any of the Orange Brigade at TBR would defend  his actions.   You answered that question nicely, and predictably.

Absolutely right. There is blood on the ground. And that blood holds a promise to allies. Ad it holds a commitment  to win. This is a shameful day.

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How would you propose we solve the Kurdish problem @mystery-ak   They are in four different countries, fighting all of them.

Which country do we choose to fight so the Kurds can carve out a safe haven ....  even though the Kurds now in Syria don't like the Kurds in Iraq who don't like the Kurds in Turkey who don't like the Kurds in Iran. . and so forth and so on.





Good points RIV, history between these peoples is far too deep, too much mistrust among all the parties involved. International community is too involved with other matters, and the UN is a feckless, corrupt organization.

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You'd think we'd be smarter than to get in the middle of a foreign feud by now, thinking we can 'solve' the centuries old problem from thousands of miles away

I guess not.

Doesn't matter. We're in it now. So win it.

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How much are you willing to scarifice on our home soil when the attacks start over here?

Any truth to the reports that since 2017 PKK is fighting alongside Antifa @txradioguy ?
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Absolutely right. There is blood on the ground. And that blood holds a promise to allies. Ad it holds a commitment  to win. This is a shameful day.

That high horse makes your ass look big.

Show us your post(s) displaying the same emotion when Obama/Biden unilaterally picked up and left Iraq?

Pres. Trump has already 'promised' Turkey he will destroy their economy if he doesn't play nice.

Does he strike you as man who doesn't keep his promises?   
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Doesn't matter. We're in it now. So win it.

Well I must say I had no idea it'd be that easy.

Can't wait to hear the plan.

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So we're going for version 2 of Bush #1 abandoning the Kurds to Saddam after we asked them to rise up and "help" us...

It is a bloody stain on our country and will cost thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives all over again.

It is of low character to start something and not keep your word if at all possible. Why would anyone take our word for life and death issues in the future. Honor comes with a cost.

That's damn well right. Great to see you @DB   :beer: :patriot: :seeya:

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Whether you agree with the decision or not, it should come as no surprise.  Trump is an isolationist through and through.  He distrusts the entire foreign intelligence apparatus, which has been wrong about every foreign intervention since the Kuwait War, and thinks only in terms of American interests.  Personally, I find this point of view refreshing in a US president.  I wish GWB had this kind of hesitancy before he got us entangled in Iraq.

The truth is, all countries exist as the result of the use of force.  If countries are going to exist thanks to us using our force, then we ought to be getting some benefit.
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