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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5018141/ISIS-connection-anarchists-revealed-Ed-Klein-book.html

Awww thanks. RIV.  APpreciate that.

Ed Klein huh?  I figured it had to be some kind of Progressive "journalist".  Thanks for proving me right.

BTW...@DCPatriot I thought you always dismissed people who were writers for Newsweek...the NY Times and gossip columnists as not credible and "fake news"?


Are they fake news when they are critical of Trump and legit sources when you're White Knighting for someone?  Just trying to figure out when Newsweek and the NY Times are credible and when they aren't.
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Awww thanks. RIV.  APpreciate that.

Ed Klein huh?  I figured it had to be some kind of Progressive "journalist".  Thanks for proving me right.

BTW...@DCPatriot I thought you always dismissed people who were writers for Newsweek...the NY Times and gossip columnists as not credible and "fake news"?


Are they fake news when they are critical of Trump and legit sources when you're White Knighting for someone?  Just trying to figure out when Newsweek and the NY Times are credible and when they aren't.

Nope....all I did was google Isis Antifa Connection....and grabbed the first one that wasn't Alex Jones.   :tongue2:
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Bingo!  888high58888

I get it...

That does not mean I am for the moderate globalist nation building that is going on parallel to that purpose... The true purpose is apparent, and served nonetheless.

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Maybe we shouldn’t let the executive branch decide on a whim where and when we are at war, and where and when we are not. We could do something else instead, maybe involving the legislature. We could call it Article I, Section 8, Clause 11.



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Don’t ask, tell. That’s the legislature’s job—arguably its most important job. At present, the executive has a free hand, and it can proffer or withdraw it at will. Don’t reactively sanction the actions you dislike; draw hard lines that must be followed. https://twitter.com/LindseyGrahamSC/status/1181181862183604224



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“I’m alarmed that the president is usurping the constitutional authority of my branch,” said Senator Partisan (D/R-All 50 States). “I intend to ask him to reverse course, do nothing else legislatively, and then endorse him for re-election, just as I’ve done for decades.”

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Nope....all I did was google Isis Antifa Connection....and grabbed the first one that wasn't Alex Jones.   :tongue2:

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LOL! I think Ed Klein and Alex Jones would get along quite nicely.  Funny thing about people like them...regardless of politics...they are both so far to the left and right fringe they end up meeting in the middle and find lots of common ground.
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That wasn't snark.

Please link to this silliness you tossed out into the middle of this discussion. 

Why?  So you can start war within a war with me as your target @txradioguy

You ... as resident expert on all things military .... said there's no truth to the reports.

I accept that. 

You are free to move on.   :shrug:
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Charles Cooke was totally trashed as a member of the TOS. He was deemed not a "conservative" because he didn't bend with the populist wind there.

@DB as were many of us here.
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That's a good point that hadn't occurred to me before.

Sadly, I am not military (4F'd)... But I am a mountain boy, and I know there ain't nothing that will get me out of those mountains, to include all the might of the United States of America. I get dug in like a tick, all you can do is scratch.

That tends to be the case in any mountain fighting. No matter the force, the terrain will always favor the locals. To wit: The mountains of Afghanistan have broken the back of every country that ever tried to take them. We are no different in that.

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I get it...

That does not mean I am for the moderate globalist nation building that is going on parallel to that purpose... The true purpose is apparent, and served nonetheless.

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If the politicians would let the Generals and the Soldiers do what we're trained to do...this would have been over much much sooner.
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LOL! I think Ed Klein and Alex Jones would get along quite nicely.  Funny thing about people like them...regardless of politics...they are both so far to the left and right fringe they end up meeting in the middle and find lots of common ground.

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I think it was a rousing success. The whole point of Iraq, omitting the political dancing, is that it s easier to kill them in a sandbox than on the eternal mountains of Afghanistan... And it was, and still is.

Rousing success, except had we not topped Saddam Iran wouldn’t be in northern Iraq, we wouldn’t have had to eliminate ISIS there and 2000 year old Christian communities wouldn’t have been wiped out.

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Is this the same GW Bush that was watching yesterday's Cowboys game with Ellen DeGeneres?

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So what? The horror of going to a football game with someone you disagree with politically.  Big Frakin deal.
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Rousing success, except had we not topped Saddam Iran wouldn’t be in northern Iraq, we wouldn’t have had to eliminate ISIS there and 2000 year old Christian communities wouldn’t have been wiped out.

Yep. ”Democratizing” Iraq opened up a Pandora’s box of hurt in the region and effectively flushed about $6 to $8 trillion in treasure down the drain, and losses to the families of fallen troops, incalculable.

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I think it was a rousing success. The whole point of Iraq, omitting the political dancing, is that it s easier to kill them in a sandbox than on the eternal mountains of Afghanistan... And it was, and still is.


It is true that there was a large jihadi call to the region and we got rid of a lot of people that may have had designs of causing problems here. Still, we have someone like Muqtada al-Sadr in charge of Iraq, now. Along with fighting them there, instead of here, there was the whole idea of nation building and western style democracy, spreading across the region. That was folly.
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#BREAKING The US has redeployed only 50-100 troops away from Syria's northern border as Turkish troops threaten to cross, a senior administration official said, denying reports that Washington pulling out completely from the country

https://mobile.twitter.com/AFP/status/1181323484015861762

Also, while a missile strike was reported on today, it was on the Turk side.
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Wow US Senior official completely contradicts Trump on #Syria

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• US troops moving within Syria
• US 50 Special Ops moving to different locations/basis
• US doesn’t support Turkey operation but mentions refugees + ISIS captives

https://mobile.twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1181316118633431040
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It's a throwback to the Cold War, we had nukes there to keep the USSR/Russkies in place. That's my view, nothing expert about it.

Well, you know... as time goes on... things change.   I repeat....

WTH?
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Rousing success, except had we not topped Saddam Iran wouldn’t be in northern Iraq, we wouldn’t have had to eliminate ISIS there and 2000 year old Christian communities wouldn’t have been wiped out.

Which is a rather rude and startling wake up call.   Because... at that time... I (and my entire family, circle of friends and associates) thought we were doing the "right thing" by going into Iraq and eliminating Saddam.   Scary to realize that we can be so easily fooled.
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The only way to stop this sh!t is to kill every Moslem out there.

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I don't know what to think.

I don't like abandoning the Kurds, but the Kurds also have their own internal problems as well as the PKK.

The rest of the Middle East is also a dog's breakfast and everything we do there turns to turd.

Yet, if we leave it alone as we have tried before, things like 9/11 happen, Israel is attacked, Iran sows terrorisim everywhere, and Russia gets back into empire building mode. Now throw China in the mix.

What the hell do you do?

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I don't know what to think.

I don't like abandoning the Kurds, but the Kurds also have their own internal problems as well as the PKK.

The rest of the Middle East is also a dog's breakfast and everything we do there turns to turd.

Yet, if we leave it alone as we have tried before, things like 9/11 happen, Israel is attacked, Iran sows terrorisim everywhere, and Russia gets back into empire building mode. Now throw China in the mix.

What the hell do you do?

Again, Catch 22.   We're damned if we do and damned if we don't.   Especially if and when we have a Congress and government infected and embedded with anti-American traitors seeking our defeat, destruction and demise.
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And what makes you think the Kurds would accept this?

Maybe intelligence that they would be facing a 10:1 force disadvantage, plus the wrath of all the technology Russia has provided Turkey.
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I don't know what to think.

I don't like abandoning the Kurds, but the Kurds also have their own internal problems as well as the PKK.

The rest of the Middle East is also a dog's breakfast and everything we do there turns to turd.

Yet, if we leave it alone as we have tried before, things like 9/11 happen, Israel is attacked, Iran sows terrorisim everywhere, and Russia gets back into empire building mode. Now throw China in the mix.

What the hell do you do?

Drill deep, drill wide.  Drill here, drill there, pretty soon man you drill everywhere.

At the same time, support "alternate" energy sources by getting gov't out of the picking winners/losers.

Without massive oil revenues, what's the ME good for?  I believe it was @thackney who once posted that the SOBs even had to import sand.
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Drill deep, drill wide.  Drill here, drill there, pretty soon man you drill everywhere.

At the same time, support "alternate" energy sources by getting gov't out of the picking winners/losers.

Without massive oil revenues, what's the ME good for?  I believe it was @thackney who once posted that the SOBs even had to import sand.


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Exactly about the ME, oil and too, I guess Israel.

Look how conflicted Africa has been for decades and we mostly don't care. I guess, if we see Islamic terrorists are there, like El Shabaab or ISIS in West Africa, we might become involved.
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