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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #625 on: October 16, 2019, 10:36:40 pm »
I think, in this respect, he is a man of his word.  He's strictly "America first", and if we are bound by stupid treaties or accords I think he sees it in our best interests to find ways to not be bound.

Isolationism by any other name has never worked...and because of the international nation/superpower we are in the 21st Century it's a recipe for disaster.
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #626 on: October 17, 2019, 01:10:02 am »
I get it.
I don't care.
It ain't right.

Then YOU fix it.
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #627 on: October 17, 2019, 01:12:42 am »
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AP FACT CHECK: Trump Muddies Waters on US Syria Withdrawal
AP FACT CHECK: President Donald Trump is muddying the waters on America's withdrawal from Syria and the conditions on the ground there.
By Associated Press, Wire Service Content Oct. 16, 2019,

...

U.S. INTERVENTION IN SYRIA

TRUMP: "We were supposed to be in Syria for one month. That was 10 years ago."

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PRISON RELEASE

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2019-10-16/ap-fact-check-trump-muddies-waters-on-us-syria-withdrawal

When he speaks, it's more like boastfulness, I don't usually think it is that harmful, something like the prison release, he needs to get straight. I usually don't mind too much if he exaggerates matters, I don't think it's malicious, usually. Not lying like my saying "I did not eat that last piece of pie" or something.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #628 on: October 17, 2019, 01:29:56 am »
Late to the party.

@Jazzhead

You are inclined to believe the Turks?

FFS

Trump made the right call.  End of story.

ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AT WAR WITH EACH OTHER SINCE THE CONCEPTION OF MODERN DAY INTERPRETATION OF RECORDED HISTORY.

PICK ANY SOURCE. ANY SOURCE.

And then sit here and debate it.

FFS

You are WORSE than what they are.



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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #629 on: October 17, 2019, 01:37:39 am »
Late to the party.

@Jazzhead

You are inclined to believe the Turks?

FFS

Trump made the right call.  End of story.

ALL OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AT WAR WITH EACH OTHER SINCE THE CONCEPTION OF MODERN DAY INTERPRETATION OF RECORDED HISTORY.

PICK ANY SOURCE. ANY SOURCE.

And then sit here and debate it.

FFS

You are WORSE than what they are.

And none of that has the least bit to do with the fact Trump not only abandoned an ally to be slaughtered...he’s tossed them under the bus...backed over them and sped forward again with his stupid comments since he ordered the retreat.

And he’s tossing anyone under the bus who dares present facts that don’t agree with what he did.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #630 on: October 17, 2019, 01:39:47 am »
The libs/dems of today are the Quislings of former years. The cowards who would vote a fraud into office in exchange for handouts from the devil.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #631 on: October 17, 2019, 01:51:10 am »

FIX IT YOURSELF OR STFU. Career military. Welfare recipient.

Whatever Fred.  I’d be willing to bet in addition to my tax dollars paying my own salary and benefits I’ve funded a couple of your trips to rehab and the looney bin.

[Redacted] with your DU style military bashing.

I’ve contributed more to “fixing” things on my worst day than you’ve done in your entire weird life.
« Last Edit: October 17, 2019, 02:07:51 am by Cyber Liberty »
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #632 on: October 17, 2019, 02:00:34 am »
All articles or nearly all, will be swept into this bigger thread unless, said thread is active with many responses.

So, if anyone disagrees with this, let me know.

I said, about 2 days ago, that it looked like the WH was going into some damage control, now this article comes out.

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Pence and Pompeo in damage control with Christians over Trump’s Kurdish crisis
By Michael Wilner and Bryan Lowry
October 16, 2019

WASHINGTON

Christian leaders were blindsided last week by President Donald Trump’s sudden withdrawal of U.S. forces from northern Syria that left thousands of Kurds vulnerable to attacks. They sought audience with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Vice President Mike Pence, the two officials they thought could convince the president to change course.

But both men, evangelical Christians, fell conspicuously silent. They took several days to call members of a politically active Christian community perplexed by a decision that they considered a betrayal of U.S. moral authority.

Kurdish forces have lost 12,000 soldiers on the front lines of a U.S.-led global coalition fight against Islamic State and have protected vulnerable religious minorities across Syria and Iraq.

Read more here: https://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article236328633.html#storylink=cpy

Up go the groans with this one but anyway:

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Senator Mitt Romney
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Iran’s power position has significantly increased with Turkey wiping out our friends, the Kurds, in Syria. Because the U.S. is abandoning its position in Syria, Assad is becoming stronger, and Iran is smiling ear to ear. This is a foreign policy disaster.


https://twitter.com/SenatorRomney/status/1184570055079747584

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #633 on: October 17, 2019, 02:02:03 am »
Whatever Fred.  I’d be willing to bet in addition to my tax dollars paying my own salary and benefits I’ve funded a couple of your trips to rehab and the looney bin.

GFYS with your DU style military bashing.

I’ve contributed more to “fixing” things on my worst day than you’ve done in your entire weird life.

Why don't you stand by the order of your President?

Your Commander in Chief?

And then tell me about bashing.









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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #634 on: October 17, 2019, 02:09:16 am »
Groan at here I come, keep the tone of this thread civil... we have already been warned it could be shut down. Discuss the issues and discuss them civilly. I hate saying that, we like you all being here. Come on, for the good of the TBR.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #635 on: October 17, 2019, 02:09:56 am »
Hey, y'all....let's turn it down a little?  The neighbors are complaining.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #636 on: October 17, 2019, 02:11:36 am »
"America First", just seeing a post on the previous page, "Make America Great Again", okay,

For the latter, MAGA, I'd think Eisenhower was probably the land of milk and honey for America.

"America First", hmmn, President Kennedy promised a man on the moon but also said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".... not a bad take.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #637 on: October 17, 2019, 02:14:03 am »
You are WORSE than what they are.
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Good Lord that was a stupid thing to write.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #638 on: October 17, 2019, 02:15:21 am »
Hey, y'all....let's turn it down a little?  The neighbors are complaining.

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Yeah. I'm out. 
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #639 on: October 17, 2019, 02:19:28 am »
@bigheadfred
Good Lord that was a stupid thing to write.

How so? Tell me how many more American lives you are willing to spend?

How much do you get back in change?
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #640 on: October 17, 2019, 02:21:19 am »
Now,

I'm out.
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Trump Ignored Syria Exit Options that Could Have Kept Russia at Bay, NSC Official Says
By James LaPorta , Tom O'Connor AND Naveed Jamali On 10/16/19 at 4:51 PM EDT

n the weeks leading up to President Donald Trump's decision to exit Syria, his National Security Council staff had been preparing and presenting a variety of plans for an orderly withdrawal, a National Security Council official told Newsweek. The goal was to avoid a violent rush to fill a power vacuum opened by a sudden U.S. exit. These plans were abandoned completely by Trump in favor of an immediate retreat after a call with his Turkish counterpart. Within days of the decision, U.S. troops were handing over strategic positions to Russian forces.

The decision also set the stage for a deal between Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's government, an ally of Russia and Iran, and the U.S.-supported Syrian Democratic Forces, a mostly Kurdish militia that battled the Islamic State militant group, know commonly as ISIS, and now faced the wrath of Turkey and allied Syrian insurgents. Among senior U.S. policymakers, military officials and career professionals who have served in numerous administrations, the ensuing chaos of Trump's insistence on scrapping plans designed to prevent just that has damaged morale.

"Abandoning almost five years of training and development of an allied force, and gift-wrapping it for the Russians and Assad has been devastating to our morale," said the NSC official, who has direct knowledge of the U.S. evacuation efforts from northern Syria.

Read more at: https://www.newsweek.com/trump-ignored-syria-exit-options-russia-takeover-nsc-official-1465731

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #642 on: October 17, 2019, 04:18:03 am »
How so? Tell me how many more American lives you are willing to spend?

How much do you get back in change?
At the moment I can only think of one, they can keep the money.

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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #643 on: October 17, 2019, 04:21:19 am »
Jeremy Newberger @jeremynewberger
Dear ISIS.

I‘m warning you guys. Go easy on the Shariah Law stuff. Don’t be tough guys. And if you happen to find some nukes, I’ll be needing those back. You can thank me for the resurgence later with favors. Maybe we can meet for a photo-op.

Dollar Akbar,
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #644 on: October 17, 2019, 12:43:31 pm »
I think, in this respect, he is a man of his word.  He's strictly "America first", and if we are bound by stupid treaties or accords I think he sees it in our best interests to find ways to not be bound.

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Thank you!

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« Reply #645 on: October 17, 2019, 12:50:45 pm »
mmn, President Kennedy promised a man on the moon but also said "Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country".... not a bad take.

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He might have said it,but that cowardly retard was just reading words someone else wrote for him.
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #646 on: October 17, 2019, 01:00:08 pm »
@Sanguine

Thank you!

America is NOT the "Worlds Daddy".

So explain Saudi Arabia then.
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« Reply #647 on: October 17, 2019, 01:04:47 pm »
So explain Saudi Arabia then.

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« Reply #648 on: October 17, 2019, 01:07:54 pm »
@txradioguy

No problem. Bush Crime Family Pimps.

They aren’t the ones sending 1,800 troops to Saudi. Trump is doing that as he’s claiming he’s trying to stop “endless wars”.

The Saudi deployment totally negates his other argument.
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Re: Turkish Invasion of Northern Syria
« Reply #649 on: October 17, 2019, 01:15:17 pm »
ErdoÄŸan 'thoroughly rejected' Trump letter and threw it 'in the bin': report
https://thehill.com/policy/international/middle-east-north-africa/466229-erdogan-thoroughly-rejected-trump-letter-and
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