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It would be binary again, if Trump would get the F out of the way, and let the grown ups like Pence govern.

And you are right....  I wish the powers that be of this site, would put the hammer down on these folks who scream and accuse us of aiding the left by calling out this Orange Trojan Horse.

I think that is more or less right. Would I vote for Pence? Yes... But not as quickly as I would have back in the TEA Party days. I might have to get talked into it, but it could happen.

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It shouldn't.
I got nothing to do with all that except non-support.

   
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My apologies. I thought you were an American.
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That is why as badly as I dislike Trump, I will dress up in November 2020, and vote for him. 



ROTFL!  I don't know if the suit is enough.
Winning without problem is just victory , but winning with lots of trouble create History ..

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It shouldn't.
I got nothing to do with all that except non-support.

Would I vote for him? Absolutely not.
Would I have him impeached? Sure, if he has committed a crime, and there is evidence to prove it - And I would say the same of Reagan himself.
Would I have him impeached according to what I know now? No, but I will not defend him either.
Not my circus, not my monkey.

As is your prerogative.

It's those who wail about being abused by Trump supporters simply because they've declared they'll help the rats to toss him out office who make me chuckle.


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If you have not noticed that the Democrats have morphed into full flown communists that intend to take over the country anyway they can
and that the only one standing in their way is President Trump than there is no helping you. Today's Democrats are not your father's
Democrats.

It don't matter what they are. It matters what y'all are.

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It don't matter what they are. It matters what y'all are.

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Didn't do much thinking about that one before you hit the "post" button,did ya?
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@roamer_1

Didn't do much thinking about that one before you hit the "post" button,did ya?

Actually it makes complete sense. Sorry you didn't understand it.

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Actually it makes complete sense. Sorry you didn't understand it.

If "ya'll" means all (as in you too) then yeah, it does make sense.


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As is your prerogative.

It's those who wail about being abused by Trump supporters simply because they've declared they'll help the rats to toss him out office who make me chuckle.

I can live with that.

Maybe next time... er, well, the time after that.  :beer:

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@roamer_1

Didn't do much thinking about that one before you hit the "post" button,did ya?

Meant it precisely, @sneakypete

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If "ya'll" means all (as in you too) then yeah, it does make sense.

No, it means 'all y'all' who want support for Tumpy, versus all us all who ain't going to go there.
It matters what y'all are doing, not what the Dems are doing.

It is easy to point at the boogey-man.
It is a little harder to look at what y'all are supporting, and tell me why I, or rather, someone, should join you in it.

That is what I mean.

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No, it means 'all y'all' who want support for Tumpy, versus all us all who ain't going to go there.
It matters what y'all are doing, not what the Dems are doing.

It is easy to point at the boogey-man.
It is a little harder to look at what y'all are supporting, and tell me why I, or rather, someone, should join you in it.

That is what I mean.

This is a "if you aren't for us, you are against us" situation.  Your either all in or a deserter.

https://morningmail.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/firing-squad-e1427400023975.jpg
« Last Edit: October 05, 2019, 04:15:06 PM by Chosen Daughter »
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I haven't seen a single Presidential nominee I've been enthused to vote for in the entire time I've been an adult, Democrat, Republican or otherwise. I voted against Obama in '08 and '12 and it got me nowhere, and voted Libertarian (even though I hate the big-L's) as a protest vote against both Clinton and Trump in '16. I watched and saw Duncan L. Hunter, who actually has the record of supporting the kind of laws Trump claims to support, languish at 1% in the '08 elections while Rudy McRomney battled it out to see how far left they could drag the party en route to being slaughtered by Obama in the general.

Ted Cruz came the closest of any to being a candidate I could enthusiastically vote for—and even he I am slightly suspicious of because of his Harvard education (Fuller's rule of life #3: never trust anyone or anything from Harvard)—to actually making the general election. Yet the party voted for the same New York City liberals that are destroying the home state where I was born and raised.

It is as if the Republicans repeatedly choose the worst candidates in the field.

So true.  Same with me.  I am so tired of it.  But they don't pick the candidates based on what Americans want or need.  It is based on money and lobbying.  They (political donors, corporations) pick the candidates they are willing to support based on their political agenda.

Then we are forced to support whoever they pick in a two party system.  If we stray to third party we are helping the other side.  Thus lesser of evils.
« Last Edit: October 05, 2019, 04:39:57 PM by Chosen Daughter »
Winning without problem is just victory , but winning with lots of trouble create History ..

Where are the borders of the State of Israel? – Erdogan to UNGA | 2019
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=erdogan+where+is+Israels+border&&view=detail&mid=EB1A184AFB6EE9199B79EB1A184AFB6EE9199B79&&FORM=VRDGAR

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No, it means 'all y'all' who want support for Tumpy, versus all us all who ain't going to go there.
It matters what y'all are doing, not what the Dems are doing.

It is easy to point at the boogey-man.
It is a little harder to look at what y'all are supporting, and tell me why I, or rather, someone, should join you in it.

That is what I mean.

Then you're wrong.

First heal thyself & live with your own choices. I am just ducky with my own.
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Actually it makes complete sense. Sorry you didn't understand it.

I know it did.   Hate to tell him never to go Full Loon.   You never go Full Loon.

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If you have not noticed that the Democrats have morphed into full flown communists that intend to take over the country anyway they can
and that the only one standing in their way is President Trump than there is no helping you. Today's Democrats are not your father's
Democrats.
Sure, I have noticed that the Democrats have gone full blown Communist in their rhetoric. Totalitarian all the way, but it is only the consistent leftward morphing of the GOP to "pick up the moderate voters" which has enabled this insanity. The more the GOP has morphed to the Left, the less consistent contrast between self-anointed "conservatives" of the GOP and the Communists, so the Communists get away with this.

In the meantime, the Constitutional Conservatives who would love a return to Original Intent are treated like bastard stepchildren, and have been since Goldwater.

Because of machinations within the GOP, I didn't even get to vote in the GOP primary for the candidate in 2016--North Dakota did not have one. That was the last straw for this old pack mule.
Knowing full well that Trump would get this State's electoral votes (and thus not suffering from Hillaryphobia), I voted my conscience, for a guy who represented the only Party to have the Constitution of the United States as its platform.

Not even the corrupt Obama Adminstration would chance new gun control measures as this one has, propelled by an incident we hear little factual about, investigated by a bought and paid for police department in thrall to casino interests, a demonstrably corrupt FBI, and the BATFE which has ever been on the lunatic totalitarian fringe, and then only sketchily reported so that anyone who might have more or correct info about the incident could be dismissed as "conspiracy theorists".
America is still sinking--the wall isn't built, Hillary isn't in irons, Obamacare lives, the corruption in Federal agencies is still rampant.
Just because it isn't going down as fast as it would if the Democrats were scuttling it, kindly don't tell me drilling holes in the Ship of State will let the water out.
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It don't matter what they are. It matters what y'all are.
Yep. Claiming to be Conservative when policies ever drift leftward lets the competition get away with being far less so.
This is where the GOP morph to the Left has been a grievous error from the start.

In the meantime, powers usurped by (Liberty lost to) the Federal Government have grown beyond anything my grandparents would have stood for.
Right along with the National Debt.
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This is a "if you aren't for us, you are against us" situation.  Your either all in or a deserter.

https://morningmail.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/firing-squad-e1427400023975.jpg
Is it?

What do you do when all the options offered are against the Republic?

At what point does the 'lesser evil' become repugnant enough that you refuse to give it the support of your vote?

Because by then, evil will have prevailed, just in shorter steps.

What I am in favor of is an Originalist Interpretation of the Constitution, which would necessarily reduce Federal programs and employment by an incredible percentage, and put a tremendous amount of power back in the hands of the People and the several States, where it belongs--an option neither major Party is considering, because it would shrink the influence and concentrated power those entities wield, just as it would shrink the federal Government.

So whether you want Gambino to run your protection or Lucchese, it all boils down to the same thing. The rackets own you, and from the cheap seats, the DNC and RNC are rackets. Neither one is making us any more free.
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Is it?

What do you do when all the options offered are against the Republic?

At what point does the 'lesser evil' become repugnant enough that you refuse to give it the support of your vote?

Because by then, evil will have prevailed, just in shorter steps.

What I am in favor of is an Originalist Interpretation of the Constitution, which would necessarily reduce Federal programs and employment by an incredible percentage, and put a tremendous amount of power back in the hands of the People and the several States, where it belongs--an option neither major Party is considering, because it would shrink the influence and concentrated power those entities wield, just as it would shrink the federal Government.

So whether you want Gambino to run your protection or Lucchese, it all boils down to the same thing. The rackets own you, and from the cheap seats, the DNC and RNC are rackets. Neither one is making us any more free.

I disagree.   Currently, the economy is booming, no thanks to the radical leftist Democrats.   If the RNC were the exact same as the DNC....ie if the Republicans were exactly like the Democrats....the economy would be stagnated, unemployment up = people out of work, taxes would be up, corporations would be smothered with taxes and regulations and we'd be back to that Carter-era Misery Index.   A booming economy makes Americans "more free", as we are seeing. 

Hell, all one has to do is listen to just one of the idiots in the Twit Squad.... or one of the Democrat candidates for president.... to see how radically different the two parties are.   That's not to say there are not moles, traitors and rats embedded within the GOP.  But the results of non-Democrat rule are all around us in real time. 

I posit that thinking like that (that the two parties are both the same) is exactly what will hand the power back to the rats.   And if/when that happens...

game over.

Time for unity in America! (better late than never)


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Yep. Claiming to be Conservative when policies ever drift leftward lets the competition get away with being far less so.
This is where the GOP morph to the Left has been a grievous error from the start.

In the meantime, powers usurped by (Liberty lost to) the Federal Government have grown beyond anything my grandparents would have stood for.
Right along with the National Debt.

@Smokin Joe

Ok,now explain how Trump,who just became a political candidate for the first time 4 years ago,is responsible for everything the RINO's have been doing since Eisenhower,while you are your fellow "Uber Americans" are REFUSING to help him try to restore some of the ground we have lost?

Maybe if we had elected JEBBY or Cruz,or some other insider Party Person things would be better,right? After all,who better to change the system than a creature OF the system,right?
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Yep. Claiming to be Conservative when policies ever drift leftward lets the competition get away with being far less so.
This is where the GOP morph to the Left has been a grievous error from the start.

In the meantime, powers usurped by (Liberty lost to) the Federal Government have grown beyond anything my grandparents would have stood for.
Right along with the National Debt.

That's right... They gotta be sellin something more than big government and pointing at the dems and shrieking. I really can't believe how many buy into that crap.

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I disagree.   Currently, the economy is booming, no thanks to the radical leftist Democrats.   If the RNC were the exact same as the DNC....ie if the Republicans were exactly like the Democrats....the economy would be stagnated, unemployment up = people out of work, taxes would be up, corporations would be smothered with taxes and regulations and we'd be back to that Carter-era Misery Index.   A booming economy makes Americans "more free", as we are seeing. 

Hell, all one has to do is listen to just one of the idiots in the Twit Squad.... or one of the Democrat candidates for president.... to see how radically different the two parties are.   That's not to say there are not moles, traitors and rats embedded within the GOP.  But the results of non-Democrat rule are all around us in real time. 

I posit that thinking like that (that the two parties are both the same) is exactly what will hand the power back to the rats.   And if/when that happens...

game over.

The "economy is booming", at least for some, because the federal government is printing money with reckless abandon. It is easy to live well on the credit card before the consequences come due. This year's deficit spending is pushing a trillion dollars in supposedly a boom year.

That's criminal. There's nothing more destructive to our future.

Yet some claim this is the good times, lets continue doing what we're doing and party on...

Pretty amazing what "conservatives" have come to wholehearted support in the name of "winning"...

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The "economy is booming", at least for some, because the federal government is printing money with reckless abandon. It is easy to live well on the credit card before the consequences come due. This year's deficit spending is pushing a trillion dollars in supposedly a boom year.

That's criminal. There's nothing more destructive to our future.

Yet some claim this is the good times, lets continue doing what we're doing and party on...

Pretty amazing what "conservatives" have come to wholehearted support in the name of "winning"...

OH MAN, is that ever right!
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