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Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« on: October 04, 2019, 10:32:43 AM »
Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
by David M. Drucker
 | October 04, 2019 12:00 AM



Prominent “Never Trump” Republicans insist they would never back rising Democratic contender Elizabeth Warren, describing an election that pits the liberal Massachusetts senator against a president they despise as a choice between two unacceptable options.

A few Republicans opposed to Trump are prepared to support Warren if she emerges as the only viable challenger, affirming a commitment to topple the president at all costs. But for many well-known Republicans and unaligned political operatives inside the community of conservative Trump opponents, there are limits. Joe Biden, the former vice president, is a traditional labor Democrat they can stomach, and even promote for. Warren is another matter, at least as they see things now.

The senator is a progressive populist vowing “big structural change.” She plans to implement a wealth tax, abolish private health insurance and maintain Trump’s quasi-protectionist trade policies. This agenda is too liberal for many Never Trump Republicans, and they are poised to sit out the 2020 campaign or cast their vote for a hopeless third-party challenger if Warren, 70, wins the Democratic nomination.

“There is no universe where I will ever vote for Donald Trump and there is no universe where I could ever vote for Elizabeth Warren,” said Jennifer Horn, former chairman of the New Hampshire Republican Party. “If Democrats really care about mending our nation, they shouldn’t be looking at the most far-Left people.”

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2019, 10:40:19 AM »
Presumably, NTer's would be fine with Clinton or Biden.

This confirms, for me at least, that the NeverTrump opposition is predominantly based in economics & not 'conservative principles'.

Warren is despised by the Wall St types because of her socialist rhetoric.


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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2019, 11:45:28 AM »
Presumably, NTer's would be fine with Clinton or Biden.

This confirms, for me at least, that the NeverTrump opposition is predominantly based in economics & not 'conservative principles'.

Warren is despised by the Wall St types because of her socialist rhetoric.

Voting for any Democrat has nothing to do with conservativism.  Voting Democrat in my opinion is essentially doing so out of spite.  People are voting against Trump, rather than voting for a particular candidate.  To me, that's just plain wrong. and is not what a real conservative would do.

And I believe that, contrary to some opinions, voting Biden would not be better than voting for Warren.  The Dem party is moving further left and if Biden becomes president, he will be compelled to embrace the new radical socialist/communist Democrat party platform.   if anyone thinks there will be an economic benefit from voting for any Democrat, they will be greatly mistaken.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2019, 12:07:01 PM »
Trump vs. Warren is the most repulsive choice ever presented on this side of the Atlantic.  Third parties need to recruit serious candidates ... especially the Libertarians, as this could be the first time they break 5%.  Public funding would be available in 2024.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 12:39:09 PM »
A few Republicans opposed to Trump are prepared to support Warren if she emerges as the only viable challenger, affirming a commitment to topple the president at all costs.


That’s absurd. The only Dem I ever even considered worth a potential cross party vote was Sam Nunn. Eventually, even he disappointed. Warren is light years left of his worst position.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 01:07:29 PM »
This confirms, for me at least, that the NeverTrump opposition is predominantly based in economics & not 'conservative principles'.

Yes, thus how Trump got elected the first round. Half of TBR based that as a reason to vote for Trump over more true conservatives. The real "nevertrumpers" like myself, that get ignored by the media, were quite the opposite of what gets the news cycles like this. Funny how it played out... A few political bigwigs in their own right get the use of the term, while probable the majority of voters that first claimed the term have been ignored. Why, because I imagine there is just a few vocal ones that have been pushed to the side and either stopped posting in forums (few would accept us) or have disappeared in the cracks... Gone Gaut is common especially with older folks.
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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2019, 01:17:21 PM »
Yes, thus how Trump got elected the first round. Half of TBR based that as a reason to vote for Trump over more true conservatives. The real "nevertrumpers" like myself, that get ignored by the media, were quite the opposite of what gets the news cycles like this. Funny how it played out... A few political bigwigs in their own right get the use of the term, while probable the majority of voters that first claimed the term have been ignored. Why, because I imagine there is just a few vocal ones that have been pushed to the side and either stopped posting in forums (few would accept us) or have disappeared in the cracks... Gone Gaut is common especially with older folks.

I respect those who oppose Trump on principled grounds, I really do.

I do not understand their opposition at this point - evidence that Trump has been far more 'conservative' than most thought he would be abounds - but their stand for the sake of principle is worthy of respect.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 01:25:41 PM »
Yes, thus how Trump got elected the first round. Half of TBR based that as a reason to vote for Trump over more true conservatives. The real "nevertrumpers" like myself, that get ignored by the media, were quite the opposite of what gets the news cycles like this. Funny how it played out... A few political bigwigs in their own right get the use of the term, while probable the majority of voters that first claimed the term have been ignored. Why, because I imagine there is just a few vocal ones that have been pushed to the side and either stopped posting in forums (few would accept us) or have disappeared in the cracks... Gone Gaut is common especially with older folks.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 02:04:02 PM »
Trump vs. Warren is the most repulsive choice ever presented on this side of the Atlantic.  Third parties need to recruit serious candidates ... especially the Libertarians, as this could be the first time they break 5%.  Public funding would be available in 2024.
Thanks for revealing your political IQ.

Gonna get a brilliant "Libertarian,"" like dope smokin, memory failin Gary Johnston? Blame America first Harry Browne?

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 03:00:03 PM »
Trump vs. Warren is the most repulsive choice ever presented on this side of the Atlantic.  Third parties need to recruit serious candidates ... especially the Libertarians, as this could be the first time they break 5%.  Public funding would be available in 2024.

Wow. Just...wow.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 03:30:16 PM »
Thanks for revealing your political IQ.

Gonna get a brilliant "Libertarian,"" like dope smokin, memory failin Gary Johnston? Blame America first Harry Browne?

Memory failing?  Are you referring to the Aleppo gaffe?  There is little chance Trump would have been prepared to answer that question.  I am not certain he could have found Syria on a map of the Middle East.  And if you think he frequented Studio 54 without partaking, well then I guess you will believe anything the man says.

You hold the minor party candidates to a lofty standard when ... let's face it ... the Republicans aren't sending us their best.  The Libertarians can do better than Browne or Johnson, which was the point of my comment.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 03:35:37 PM »
Wow. Just...wow.

Wow yourself.  Trump is an idiot.  He's asking red China to investigate Biden ... says he takes Kim at his word.  You might believe that claiming NA heritage is more absurd.  Good luck selling that to nonpartisans. 

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 03:53:28 PM »
A few Republicans opposed to Trump are prepared to support Warren if she emerges as the only viable challenger, affirming a commitment to topple the president at all costs.


That’s absurd. The only Dem I ever even considered worth a potential cross party vote was Sam Nunn. Eventually, even he disappointed. Warren is light years left of his worst position.

Nah... Wall Street being against her... Now the liberal so called 'Never Tumpers'...
Its a narrative. How can she be the heroic underdog and the plucky fighter without the boogey-man?
Its so dang familiar...

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 06:48:49 PM »
Wow yourself.  Trump is an idiot.  He's asking red China to investigate Biden ... says he takes Kim at his word The language he uses with Kim is precisely what has kept him much better contained than in previous administrations...and may ultimately yield a no-nukes agreement. .  You might believe that claiming NA heritage is more absurd.  Good luck selling that to nonpartisans.

If you're looking for idiots...see those undermining a president who is, almost single handedly fighting the Deep State, the Left and the Media (and a sprinkling of Quislings within his own party)...all while he is consistently governing in a powerfully conservative manner.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 06:58:47 PM »
Wow yourself.  Trump is an idiot.  He's asking red China to investigate Biden ... says he takes Kim at his word.  You might believe that claiming NA heritage is more absurd.  Good luck selling that to nonpartisans.

You convinced me.  I'm going to write in McMuffin.  yymouse
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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 07:39:46 PM »
Well,the NT's can't vote for Boy Jorge anymore and JEB seems to be hiding or his wife won't let  him out of the house,so I guess that leaves Meagan McLunatic for them to vote for since they can't get the RINO's of their dreams.
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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 07:43:04 PM »
I respect those who oppose Trump on principled grounds, I really do.

I do not understand their opposition at this point - evidence that Trump has been far more 'conservative' than most thought he would be abounds - but their stand for the sake of principle is worthy of respect.

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2019, 07:44:58 PM »
Well,the NT's can't vote for Boy Jorge anymore and JEB seems to be hiding or his wife won't let  him out of the house,so I guess that leaves Meagan McLunatic for them to vote for since they can't get the RINO's of their dreams.

McMuffin, 2020!  Bubblehead McCain is too conservative.  (She'll get the "Boob Vote" for sure, though.)
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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2019, 07:50:36 PM »
   There's still plenty of time @sneakypete to start a write in Campaign for GPB 

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2019, 08:00:14 PM »
   There's still plenty of time @sneakypete to start a write in Campaign for GPB 



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Sounds like a plan!

Is he off probation yet?

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2019, 08:03:23 PM »
@corbe

Sounds like a plan!

Is he off probation yet?

How does "Brown Bush 2020!" sound?

@sneakypete

That rolls trippingly from the tongue!

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2019, 08:04:23 PM »
@sneakypete

That rolls trippingly from the tongue!

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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2019, 08:11:00 PM »
   He'll never get the DRT (Daughters of Texas Republic) vote, since he stole the management of the Alamo from them, but there's still hope that the nostalgic wing of the GOP that long for the good ol pre Trump days, could make it possible.

   Barbara's dead, get over your animosity.   :beer:
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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2019, 08:24:14 PM »
   He'll never get the DRT (Daughters of Texas Republic) vote, since he stole the management of the Alamo from them, but there's still hope that the nostalgic wing of the GOP that long for the good ol pre Trump days, could make it possible.

   Barbara's dead, get over your animosity.   :beer:

@corbe

Just because the head of the snake is dead,that doesn't mean it is harmless. There can be NO question that Babs was the evil genius that ran that organization,but just because she is dead now,that doesn't mean they are harmless. Don't forget,they are multi-generational felons,starting back with Prescott Bush Sr laundering Nazi money for them during WW-2.
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Re: Maybe not Trump? Never Trumpers insist they won’t back Warren
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2019, 08:26:43 PM »
"N'ertrumper" = someone who either is, or sympathizes with, the democrat-communist party and its goals.
Or otherwise, just malcontents.
And that applies to some folks right here.

I will not retract that statement.
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