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Re: Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2019, 02:13:02 pm »
https://www.c-span.org/video/?464509-1/acting-director-national-intelligence-maguire-testifies-whistleblower-complaint


Live link for hearing coverage.

Watching it now.   The rats are trying to cast blame upon Maguire for not releasing the transcript sooner.... even though he asked them for another week and it was granted (by Schiff, I believe).  Typical.
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Re: Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2019, 02:17:30 pm »
Coates and Gordon are probably so glad to have resigned. Maguire is in an untenable position. Bolton has been conspicuously silent, throughout this ordeal. You have to wonder if this subject was one of the contributions to the falling out between him and Trump.
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Re: Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 02:19:00 pm »
Coates and Gordon are probably so glad to have resigned. Maguire is in an untenable position.

And he is obviously not accustomed to being grilled (bbq'd) like this.
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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2019, 02:25:16 pm »
Whistleblower complaint has been declassified and contains no 'surprises,' GOP lawmaker says
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/whistleblower-complaint-on-ukraine-call-has-been-declassified-gop-lawmaker-says

I watched this on Laura Ingraham's show last night...clip is at link above
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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2019, 02:37:35 pm »
Yet another Democrat "show trial" .... based on another nothing burger....  but with the rats attempting to portray this "whistleblower" BS  as a heinous criminal act by Trump and now, of course, also by Maguire.  Despicable. 
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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2019, 03:17:47 pm »
This is not the crime of the century Democrats are claiming, at this time, but it’s not the ‘nothing’ Republicans are saying, either. Giuliani does not have an official position, within the administration. The complaint makes allegations the conversation with the Ukrainian president was put into a separate network for archiving. A number of factors put this complaint in a gray area. It looks like an overt attempt to memory hole the activity. If we were looking at it as something done by the opposition, that conclusion would be quickly made.

During the Cuomo interview, Giuliani claimed the investigation material was in the proper hands. Bar has denied having any communication with Ukrainian officials, regarding the Biden inquiry. So who has this suppose it information and for what purpose?  It’s not unreasonable to wonder if this was unofficial, had nothing to do with trying to route out corruption, and was, in fact, and effort to procure damaging information on a political opponent.
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2019, 03:18:30 pm »
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2019, 03:21:55 pm »
This is not the crime of the century Democrats are claiming, at this time, but it’s not the ‘nothing’ Republicans are saying, either. Giuliani does not have an official position, within the administration. The complaint makes allegations the conversation with the Ukrainian president was put into a separate network for archiving. A number of factors put this complaint in a gray area. It looks like an overt attempt to memory hole the activity. If we were looking at it as something done by the opposition, that conclusion would be quickly made.

During the Cuomo interview, Giuliani claimed the investigation material was in the proper hands. Bar has denied having any communication with Ukrainian officials, regarding the Biden inquiry. So who has this suppose it information and for what purpose?  It’s not unreasonable to wonder if this was unofficial, had nothing to do with trying to route out corruption, and was, in fact, and effort to procure damaging information on a political opponent.

Yeah, IMO it's not a famous "nothing burger" but it's not an impeachable offense either.

Trump funnels everything through his lawyer so he stays out of trouble. Probably something he learned from Roy Cohn.

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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2019, 03:24:48 pm »
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They tried to impeach president John Tyler.

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...A hearing on hearsay -- shouldn't the so-called whistleblower be the 1st witness, his identity known, his complaint question & scrutinized, etc., before questioning the acting DNI about the complaint? Of course, but that wouldn't serve the purposes of the Dems and the media.

We do not know who the whistle-blower is, it was floated on twitter, I will not say her name but not someone most of us have heard of. A stocky middle age white woman with gray hair.  Others were refusing to pass her name on. Because we sure don't know who it is and that is innuendo.

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Maguire trying to have it both ways is causing him some trouble here.

He got a fake whistle blower complaint that didn't fit the legal requirements for being a whistleblower complaint, but he wants to demonstrate very earnestly that he took it seriously, etc. etc.
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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2019, 03:26:31 pm »
This is not the crime of the century Democrats are claiming, at this time, but it’s not the ‘nothing’ Republicans are saying, either. Giuliani does not have an official position, within the administration. The complaint makes allegations the conversation with the Ukrainian president was put into a separate network for archiving. A number of factors put this complaint in a gray area. It looks like an overt attempt to memory hole the activity. If we were looking at it as something done by the opposition, that conclusion would be quickly made.

During the Cuomo interview, Giuliani claimed the investigation material was in the proper hands. Bar has denied having any communication with Ukrainian officials, regarding the Biden inquiry. So who has this suppose it information and for what purpose?  It’s not unreasonable to wonder if this was unofficial, had nothing to do with trying to route out corruption, and was, in fact, and effort to procure damaging information on a political opponent.

Actually, it is indeed unreasonable to wonder that.... considering the ongoing and previous known lies that Democrats and their leftist minions have already spewed.   And especially since the actual transcript has been released and there is NOTHING in it about procuring damaging information on any political opponent.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2019, 03:43:15 pm »
Actually, it is indeed unreasonable to wonder that.... considering the ongoing and previous known lies that Democrats and their leftist minions have already spewed.   And especially since the actual transcript has been released and there is NOTHING in it about procuring damaging information on any political opponent.


Well, again, Giuliani told Cuomo he obtained information and it’s in the ‘proper hands,’ whatever that means. As @Weird Tolkienish Figure mentioned, this is a Roy Cohn type op. Giuliani is (seemingly) his latest errand boy and bagman, in the tradition of Cohn and Cohen.
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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2019, 03:43:47 pm »
well we just learned one thing.  The leaker is a man.   
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« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2019, 03:51:11 pm »

Well, again, Giuliani told Cuomo he obtained information and it’s in the ‘proper hands,’ whatever that means. As @Weird Tolkienish Figure mentioned, this is a Roy Cohn type op. Giuliani is (seemingly) his latest errand boy and bagman, in the tradition of Cohn and Cohen.

Ah... but... much like the idiot left Democrats.... you are assuming.

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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2019, 03:55:58 pm »
Maguire says he doesn't know if Giuliani has security clearance
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/463183-maguire-says-he-doesnt-know-if-giuliani-has-security-clearance?fbclid=IwAR2KNgNfBXdQfDOJrX8G6RUGnYZ0rC8iitsleF0HINN8DIyWb3iqFZ4ASlY


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« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2019, 04:12:12 pm »
Ah... but... much like the idiot left Democrats.... you are assuming.

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No, I’m being deductive. At around the 2:30 mark, Rudy says the information is in the right hands. Barr has said he’s not involved. So, who has it? It doesn’t seem like it’s in the care of Justice.


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Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said the attorney general was first made aware of the call several weeks after the July conversation between the two world leaders.

“The president has not spoken with the attorney general about having Ukraine investigate anything related to former Vice President Biden or his son,” she said in a statement. “The President has not asked the attorney general to contact the Ukraine — on this or any other matter.”

“The attorney general has not communicated with Ukraine — on this or any other subject. Nor has the attorney general discussed this matter, or anything relating to Ukraine with Rudy Giuliani,” she continued.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/25/transcript-trump-ukrainian-call-reveals-no-quid-pr/
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« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2019, 04:18:19 pm »

No, I’m being deductive. At around the 2:30 mark, Rudy says the information is in the right hands. Barr has said he’s not involved. So, who has it? It doesn’t seem like it’s in the care of Justice.


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Justice Department spokeswoman Kerri Kupec said the attorney general was first made aware of the call several weeks after the July conversation between the two world leaders.

“The president has not spoken with the attorney general about having Ukraine investigate anything related to former Vice President Biden or his son,” she said in a statement. “The President has not asked the attorney general to contact the Ukraine — on this or any other matter.”

“The attorney general has not communicated with Ukraine — on this or any other subject. Nor has the attorney general discussed this matter, or anything relating to Ukraine with Rudy Giuliani,” she continued.


https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/25/transcript-trump-ukrainian-call-reveals-no-quid-pr/

Don't get me started on Guiliani.  I think he's a blithering fool.   What I do firmly believe based on what I already know... is that the only "effort to procure damaging information on a political opponent" going on in this country is, and has been done, by the g'damned lying Democrats and their radical (commie) minions.
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Re: LIVE>>Acting DNI Maguire Testifies on Whistleblower Complaint
« Reply #18 on: September 26, 2019, 04:20:44 pm »
Democrat after democrat, making speeches and badgering the witness.

Adam Schitt arguing with witness.

Interrupting the witness, when he refuses to follow their script.

I don't need to hear six hours of this plot, to have the jist of it.

Some sources, opine the stupid dems are doing exactly what Trump wants them to do.

Russia, Russia, Russia, Mueller, Mueller, Muleller.

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Whistleblowe, Whistleblower, Whistleblower.

Like addicts, this time it will be different, but they can't stop.

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« Reply #19 on: September 26, 2019, 04:35:12 pm »
Don't get me started on Guiliani.  I think he's a blithering fool.  What I do firmly believe based on what I already know...is that the only "effort to procure damaging information on a political opponent" going on in this country is, and has been done, by the g'damned lying Democrats and their radical (commie) minions.


What do you do think the investigation request was about? It certainly isn’t related to their sudden concern for corruption within Ukraine. If that was the case, they would’ve insisted Ukrainian officials continued cooperation with Mueller, when they were investigating Manafort‘s connections with Yanukovich and Deripaska - two notoriously corrupt individuals. After all, they insisted they’d done nothing wrong.

As far as Giuliani goes, he’s the pointman Trump has chosen for this. He told Zelensky, during the conversation, Rudy was ‘highly respected’ and ‘capable.’ One assumption I am perfectly comfortable making is that Barr does not appreciate being dragged into this, at all.
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« Reply #20 on: September 26, 2019, 04:39:25 pm »

What do you do think the investigation request was about? It certainly isn’t related to their sudden concern for corruption within Ukraine. If that was the case, they would’ve insisted Ukrainian officials continued cooperation with Mueller, when they were investigating Manafort‘s connections with Yanukovich and Deripaska - two notoriously corrupt individuals. After all, they insisted they’d done nothing wrong.

As far as Giuliani goes, he’s the pointman Trump has chosen for this. He told Zelensky, during the conversation, Rudy was ‘highly respected’ and ‘capable.’ One assumption I am perfectly comfortable making is that Barr does not appreciate being dragged into this, at all.

Nevertheless..... the "whistleblower" is not a real whistleblower.... and lied about what was said during the call, proven by the released transcript.... which also proved that there was no "oppo research help" requested by Trump.   The term grasping at straws while lying out their ass comes immediately to mind re: the ssdd despicable Democrats.
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« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2019, 04:55:24 pm »
Nevertheless..... the "whistleblower" is not a real whistleblower.... and lied about what was said during the call, proven by the released transcript.... which also proved that there was no "oppo research help" requested by Trump.   The term grasping at straws while lying out their ass comes immediately to mind re: the ssdd despicable Democrats.

Absolutely so.

Impeachment is largely political as I heard this morning. I will see how this goes per that... but yes, this whole dog and pony show is based on fabrications, lies, deceit.

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« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2019, 04:56:26 pm »
Democrat after democrat, making speeches and badgering the witness.

Adam Schitt arguing with witness.

Interrupting the witness, when he refuses to follow their script.

I don't need to hear six hours of this plot, to have the jist of it.

Some sources, opine the stupid dems are doing exactly what Trump wants them to do.

Russia, Russia, Russia, Mueller, Mueller, Muleller.

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine, Whistleblowe, Whistleblower, Whistleblower.

Like addicts, this time it will be different, but they can't stop.

The front man is Schitt, not sympathetic. Later today plan to hear from Romney, agreeing with democrats.
There’s about as much here as there was with the dozen or so farces the rats have thrown up against the wall over the past two or three years.

This one stands out a bit as being hilariously hypocritical though.
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Nevertheless..... the "whistleblower" is not a real whistleblower.... and lied about what was said during the call, proven by the released transcript.... which also proved that there was no "oppo research help" requested by Trump.   The term grasping at straws while lying out their ass comes immediately to mind re: the ssdd despicable Democrats.

But, but...Guiliani...Mueller...Ukraine...Russia...or something.

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« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2019, 05:35:16 pm »
Nevertheless..... the "whistleblower" is not a real whistleblower.... and lied about what was said during the call, proven by the released transcript.... which also proved that there was no "oppo research help" requested by Trump.   The term grasping at straws while lying out their ass comes immediately to mind re: the ssdd despicable Democrats.


What the complaints about the call is fairly accurate, despite not having firsthand knowledge of the conversation. Nowhere in the section covering the call does it mention a request for opposition research. You may be conflating something that was reported by a news outlet, over with the complaint actually says.

Additionally, there are two redacted sections that could say anything. Outside of the IC, only those with clearance, on the committees, know what it says.


https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/20190812_-_whistleblower_complaint_unclass.pdf
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