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America would not exist without a strong central government.

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OfTheCross:
There's no way that all 50 States would have united as independent Nation-States.

There's no way that we'd have our current level of social freedoms with States imposing their will on the Federal government.

We need a strong National government to guarantee the Rights of the Constitution to all of us.

The Articles of Confederation failed because the States had too much independence. The Civil War happened because States wanted to be independent from the National government.

America, as we know it, simply wouldn't be a thing if the National government wasn't strong enough to tamp down the insurrection from the South and impose its will on the States to actually live up to the words of the Constitution and its Amendments.

skeeter:
We all agree that a Federal Government is a necessity. The question is how much.

After all, a Government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.

OfTheCross:

--- Quote from: skeeter on September 23, 2019, 12:34:11 am ---We all agree that a Federal Government is a necessity. The question is how much.

After all, a Government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.

--- End quote ---

I like that. What would you say is the tipping point of our Federal government being able to take everything we have?

Given the limitations of each branch of government, it'd be a difficult haul

goatprairie:

--- Quote from: OfTheCross on September 23, 2019, 12:08:17 am ---There's no way that all 50 States would have united as independent Nation-States.

There's no way that we'd have our current level of social freedoms with States imposing their will on the Federal government.

We need a strong National government to guarantee the Rights of the Constitution to all of us.

The Articles of Confederation failed because the States had too much independence. The Civil War happened because States wanted to be independent from the National government.

America, as we know it, simply wouldn't be a thing if the National government wasn't strong enough to tamp down the insurrection from the South and impose its will on the States to actually live up to the words of the Constitution and its Amendments.

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You  grant the federal gov. only as much power as is absolutely needed. If things can be done by the states, they should be.
Too much power in a central authority is a diseased recipe for an all-powerful dictatorship.

Sanguine:
This is fine with me as long as the feds stick to their Constitutionally limited (not SCOTUS defined) roles.

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