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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2019, 11:44:17 AM »
Remember Warren Harding's winning and inherently conservative pitch after the chaos of World War 1:  a return to normalcy.    A lot of voters today seek a return to normalcy.   Who should they support?   
What normalcy are you talking about? The normalcy of continued warfare in the Mideast or the continued operation of Guantanamo, or perhaps the normalcy of a president bowing to foreign leaders and apologizing for America, corruption and collusion with unions, the giving of military secrets and huge amounts of cash to countries that want to destroy us? The democrat kind of normalcy? If you think that Biden, or any other democrat, in any way represents or offers the type of normalcy America had for a few short years post WWI and WWII I'd like some of what your smoking.

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2019, 12:18:46 PM »
Let me first say that we should all be "leery" of every Politician...in the general sense.

That said, "Conservatives" are NOT specifically leery of Trump...members of the conservative Party, the GOP, support him at near 90% levels as per Gallup. That is inclusive of strong support from the Evangelical and the most conservative elements of the American Right. That 90% reflects incredibly strong support amongst conservatives for President Trump and his policies...which is NOT to say that there are no concerns or skepticism on certain issues.

Still, support overall amongst conservatives is almost unprecedentedly strong for President Trump. The "10%" not supporting him are a tiny embittered polyglot of RINO's, Moral Narcissists, and foreign policy Neocons who find the man too gauche...too tweety...or who cling to the "he used to be an NY lib" back in the 90's (oddly akin to Reagan being head of the Hollywood actors' guild and a Democrat in the early 60's....18 years before he ascended to the White House).

Exactly, Trump's not perfect, we watch our steps but he's been the most pro-life prez or close to it, yeah, those who disagree with this should go to the life news forum where they rarely seem to show up... and some success in beating back ISIS. Compare this to a Democrat president and it's almost a wonder nowadays, that any Republican could be elected president.  The demographics may start to indicate other. Already with any presidential election, a Democrat starts out almost assuredly with California, New York, Illinois and Massachusetts.  Fine, fine if others don't want to pitch in but don't tell us we aren't conservative.

There's a lot to question about those who routinely attack the Prez. I mean, are they on Planned Parenthood's side or something? They like holding others to standards, what about them?

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2019, 12:41:04 PM »
Not surprising.  Virginia Republicans did the same thing a few years back by quietly supporting Terry McAuliffe as governor just to prevent a Conservative from sitting in the governor's mansion.

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2019, 12:46:25 PM »
So your saying that conservatives must place ideology over all else?   So how do you explain Trump, who has been a New York liberal for far more years than he's been your conservative champion?   

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I am going to type slowly so even someone surgically attached to a Hookah can understand it. Trump was NOT a "New York liberal". Not ever. What he WAS,was someone doing business in NYC,which meant he HAD to do business with NYC politicians and political appointees,all of whom are leftists because that is the system that put them in power and in mansions.

So he played along and did what he had to do to survive as a businessman in that atmosphere.

I know this is going to be a serious challenge to your reasoning ability (?),but Trump is no longer dependent on the good will of those people. In FACT,he has EVERY reason,including resentment for all the money they cheated him out of,to hate them with a passion.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2019, 12:49:58 PM »


It's also why you and some others don't understand why Conservatives are leery of Trump.

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I understand perfectly well why you and the other fake Conservatives are leery of Trump. You are NOT Conservatives,you are bible-thumping moralizing dictators. You hate him because he is rich,has had multiple wives,and you are jealous because life hasn't been so kind for you.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2019, 12:51:50 PM »

I'd have more respect for a hard lefty who supports those progressive goals because they believe in them than I would for a Republican who prioritizes civility and "normalcy" over core principles of liberty.  They don't care if we're free as long as things are otherwise "normal".

They're Vichy Republicans.

 

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2019, 01:02:39 PM »
@Jazzhead

I am going to type slowly so even someone surgically attached to a Hookah can understand it. Trump was NOT a "New York liberal". Not ever. What he WAS,was someone doing business in NYC,which meant he HAD to do business with NYC politicians and political appointees,all of whom are leftists because that is the system that put them in power and in mansions.

So he played along and did what he had to do to survive as a businessman in that atmosphere.

I know this is going to be a serious challenge to your reasoning ability (?),but Trump is no longer dependent on the good will of those people. In FACT,he has EVERY reason,including resentment for all the money they cheated him out of,to hate them with a passion.

 :thumbsup:

Really, we have to hear these smears routinely, in lieu of this, it's hard to be sure anyone else could have been elected as a Republican candidate. I mean, that's how extreme BHO was.

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Yeah, I really wish some Never-Trumpers would save some of their wisdom, often, it's just being as smart as a box-of-rocks but we've got to take it seriously.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2019, 01:05:51 PM »
:thumbsup:

Really, we have to hear these smears routinely, in lieu of this, it's hard to be sure anyone else could have been elected as a Republican candidate. I mean, that's how extreme BHO was.

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Yeah, I really wish some Never-Trumpers would save some of their wisdom, often, it's just being as smart as a box-of-rocks but we've got to take it seriously.

Before you go singing the praises of Jazzy...you might like to know that he thinks the only way for the GOP to win in November of 2020 is for Trump to step aside and have someone like a John Kasich be at the top of the ticket.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2019, 02:52:33 PM »
Before you go singing the praises of Jazzy...you might like to know that he thinks the only way for the GOP to win in November of 2020 is for Trump to step aside and have someone like a John Kasich be at the top of the ticket.

OH, I'm quite certain that with Trump as the nominee,  the GOP will lose the Presidency and Senate.   And since it's more than a year before the election,  I advocate doing something to try to avert that impending disaster (and no, I'm not suggesting John Kasich).  But most here dismiss me as a crank.  So have it your way, you're lemmings all.   
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2019, 03:03:49 PM »
@Jazzhead

I am going to type slowly so even someone surgically attached to a Hookah can understand it. Trump was NOT a "New York liberal". Not ever. What he WAS,was someone doing business in NYC,which meant he HAD to do business with NYC politicians and political appointees,all of whom are leftists because that is the system that put them in power and in mansions.

So he played along and did what he had to do to survive as a businessman in that atmosphere.

I know this is going to be a serious challenge to your reasoning ability (?),but Trump is no longer dependent on the good will of those people. In FACT,he has EVERY reason,including resentment for all the money they cheated him out of,to hate them with a passion.



One of the clearest recounting of the facts that NeverTrumpers and wayward conservatives revel in  distorting.

May I offer you my humble thanks and a big  :thumbsup:  for setting the record straight so definitively.

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2019, 03:03:50 PM »
@Jazzhead

I am going to type slowly so even someone surgically attached to a Hookah can understand it. Trump was NOT a "New York liberal". Not ever. What he WAS,was someone doing business in NYC,which meant he HAD to do business with NYC politicians and political appointees,all of whom are leftists because that is the system that put them in power and in mansions.

So he played along and did what he had to do to survive as a businessman in that atmosphere.

I know this is going to be a serious challenge to your reasoning ability (?),but Trump is no longer dependent on the good will of those people. In FACT,he has EVERY reason,including resentment for all the money they cheated him out of,to hate them with a passion.

   You need to type SLOWER for us stoners, @sneakypete cause I still don't get it.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2019, 03:12:19 PM »
   You need to type SLOWER for us stoners, @sneakypete cause I still don't get it.

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Sometimes you do and say what you HAVE to do and say in order to survive and thrive,even if you don't want to do and say those things.

Then,when you your head is no longer under the chopping block,you only do what you WANT to do,and may even want a little "get back" on the people that pressured you when they could BECAUSE they could.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2019, 03:40:48 PM »
@corbe

Sometimes you do and say what you HAVE to do and say in order to survive and thrive,even if you don't want to do and say those things.

Then,when you your head is no longer under the chopping block,you only do what you WANT to do,and may even want a little "get back" on the people that pressured you when they could BECAUSE they could.

Above the other necessary qualities, good negotiators should be realistic and optimistic. Trump is both.

Years ago a doctor in New York hired me to be his associate doctor. He was big in local, city, and state democrat politics. I always avoided letting our conversation stray into politics and the times it did, I simply feigned political indifference. What would be the point? I needed the work, not the grief.

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2019, 04:31:45 PM »
Jazzhead....you could not be more wrong.  Trump is well positioned to win in 2020, and the Democommies have literally nothing.

It does not matter if it is Biden, Warren or Sanders, they are all losers.  It does not matter if the Never Trumpers side with Biden.  Rest assured, Biden will put his senile or idiot foot in his mouth and turn off voters.  Count on it.

And what is the TRUTH of the matter, most logical Democommies know they are the party of nothing but lunacy.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2019, 04:41:40 PM »
OH, I'm quite certain that with Trump as the nominee,  the GOP will lose the Presidency and Senate.   And since it's more than a year before the election,  I advocate doing something to try to avert that impending disaster (and no, I'm not suggesting John Kasich).  But most here dismiss me as a crank.  So have it your way, you're lemmings all.   

Well, you've been "advocating" for quite some time now.  What though are YOU personally doing to promote someone else who will win the GOP nomination and eventually the oval office???

I have heard of no one with a snowball's chance of winning running against Trump -- so you can "advocate" all you want, it is quite futile.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2019, 04:41:44 PM »
Jazzhead....you could not be more wrong.  Trump is well positioned to win in 2020, and the Democommies have literally nothing.

It does not matter if it is Biden, Warren or Sanders, they are all losers.  It does not matter if the Never Trumpers side with Biden.  Rest assured, Biden will put his senile or idiot foot in his mouth and turn off voters.  Count on it.

And what is the TRUTH of the matter, most logical Democommies know they are the party of nothing but lunacy.

Believe me, I'd rather you be right than me.   But I fear that Trump will effectively be used by the Dems as a distraction to impose socialism on our Republic.   
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2019, 04:43:55 PM »
Believe me, I'd rather you be right than me.   But I fear that Trump will effectively be used by the Dems as a distraction to impose socialism on our Republic.   

Yeah. Okay.  I could see how that would keep you up at night.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2019, 06:19:49 PM »
@Jazzhead

I am going to type slowly so even someone surgically attached to a Hookah can understand it. Trump was NOT a "New York liberal". Not ever. What he WAS,was someone doing business in NYC,which meant he HAD to do business with NYC politicians and political appointees,all of whom are leftists because that is the system that put them in power and in mansions.

So he played along and did what he had to do to survive as a businessman in that atmosphere.

It is not often I agree with Jazzhead, but yeah, Trump is/always will be/always has been a NY Liberal or a LIAR... you choose... The 3rd option is both... and you can guess which I select.

But lets just hear Trump in his own words... before you decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAHKGP10yc

Now having heard that again I ask, is Trump telling the truth or lying as you suggested (play acting for business purposes)?

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I understand perfectly well why you and the other fake Conservatives are leery of Trump. You are NOT Conservatives,you are bible-thumping moralizing dictators. You hate him because he is rich,has had multiple wives,and you are jealous because life hasn't been so kind for you.

Odd most of Bible Thumpers fully understand the 10th commandment... it is you that doesn't. Perhaps you can point out where we said something against Trump's wealth? The only jabs I have noticed on the rich is when it is hypocritical (like rich liberals talking about taking guns away while living in gated communities)..  Heck most of us fully understand the value of having rich folk is that wealth does work it's way down (thus it is opportunity to better ourselves/family). It is only the left that wants the world to believe that conservatives want everyone to be poor. Christian Conservatives realize that poor people are the most expensive segment of society so we really want them to be able to care for themselves if possible. If not, then there is provisions put in place to help the poor help themselves (like not gleaming a field twice so the poor can pick the left over).
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2019, 06:40:46 PM »
I spent most of my life as a registered Democrat.  I got elected by 89% in a majority Republican community.  Back then, I was a fiscal conservative, and a moderate for social issues.  Like many, I believed a woman had a right to choose in regard to abortion.  But with age comes wisdom, and greater knowledge, and a clearer view of right versus wrong.

When I was younger, I never heard of Margaret Sanger.  I never knew that Charles Lindbergh worked closely with her to develop eugenics policies.  Did not know that Lindbergh was a staunch supporter of Nazi Germany, so much so, he and his wife were planning to move there and establish residence in Germany.  And yet to this day, he and Sanger are heralded in this country as courageous. 

Well, live and learn....otherwise!

Judge Trump by what he does, and not what he said or did 20 years ago.  He is hands down the most conservative president in my lifetime since Eisenhower.  He is attempting to do more for right to life than any president.  For that issue alone, he is a champion conservative.

He has successfully implemented tax changes that scream conservative.  He is fighting almost alone for a secure border, and no other president has fought this hard.

He has strengthened our military and brought back respect for our nation globally.  He has forced our so called allies to carry more of the water, where they have failed to do so with prior Republican presidents, not to mention POSs like Obama.

He has reduced regulation in America unlike any prior Republican.  In fact, I consider his success far greater than Reagan, who when he left office, left a government much larger than what it was when he entered.  ANd that was one of Reagan's big planks when he ran, to reduce government.  Hmmm!

Fact is, Trump has had far more success implementing conservative principles as POTUS than any other, despite having nonstop resistance from both Democommies and Republicans.  Heck you have Romney and Lee wanting to pass legislation to stop Trump.  And those two b*st*rds consider themselves conservative.  People better awaken to the fact that Trump with his rough edges may well be the best conservative and effective president we have had in 60 years!

And if it wasn't for the fact the Democommies are total whack jobs, they would find him an easy president to work with, for he does want to produce results, but they are too damn stupid.  They choose to be led by the likes of a 29 year old bartender that is their current architect.  The GND could not be more idiotic if they tried.  There is nothing of merit in that, and they all have endorsed it.  At a time of when one party is literally insane, Trump despite constant and unrelenting attack, has remained strong.

With all going on, thank God Trump is as strong a leader as he is!!!!!!!!

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2019, 07:10:22 PM »
I spent most of my life as a registered Democrat.  I got elected by 89% in a majority Republican community.  Back then, I was a fiscal conservative, and a moderate for social issues.  Like many, I believed a woman had a right to choose in regard to abortion.  But with age comes wisdom, and greater knowledge, and a clearer view of right versus wrong.

When I was younger, I never heard of Margaret Sanger.  I never knew that Charles Lindbergh worked closely with her to develop eugenics policies.  Did not know that Lindbergh was a staunch supporter of Nazi Germany, so much so, he and his wife were planning to move there and establish residence in Germany.  And yet to this day, he and Sanger are heralded in this country as courageous. 

Well, live and learn....otherwise!

Judge Trump by what he does, and not what he said or did 20 years ago.  He is hands down the ost conservative president in my lifetime since Eisenhower.  He is attempting to do more for right to life than any president.  For that issue alone, he is a champion conservative.

He has successfully implemented tax changes that scream conservative.  He is fighting almost alone for a secure border, and no other president has fought this hard.

He has strengthened our military and brought back respect for our nation globally.  He has forced our so called allies to carry more of the water, where they have failed to do so with prior Republican presidents, not to mention POSs like Obama.

He has reduced regulation in America unlike any prior Republican.  In fact, I consider his success far greater than Reagan, who when he left office, left a government much larger than what it was when he entered.  ANd that was one of Reagan's big planks when he ran, to reduce government.  Hmmm!

Fact is, Trump has had far more success implementing conservative principles as POTUS than any other, despite having nonstop resistance from both Democommies and Republicans.  Heck you have Romney and Lee wanting to pass legislation to stop Trump.  And those two b*st*rds consider themselves conservative.  People better awaken to the fact that Trump with his rough edges may well be the best conservative and effective president we have had in 60 years!

And if it wasn't for the fact the Democommies are total whack jobs, they would find him an easy president to work with, for he does want to produce results, but they are too damn stupid.  They choose to be led by the likes of a 29 year old bartender that is their current architect.  The GND could not be more idiotic if they tried.  There is nothing of merit in that, and they all have endorsed it.  At a time of when one party is literally insane, Trump despite constant and unrelenting attack, has remained strong.

With all going on, thank God Trump is as strong a leader as he is!!!!!!!!

Not much to add and all very well said.

Well said, he is pardoning ?? Veteran Student debt or something and he's given Vets other breaks.

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2019, 07:40:09 PM »
Above the other necessary qualities, good negotiators should be realistic and optimistic. Trump is both.

Years ago a doctor in New York hired me to be his associate doctor. He was big in local, city, and state democrat politics. I always avoided letting our conversation stray into politics and the times it did, I simply feigned political indifference. What would be the point? I needed the work, not the grief.

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And there it is. We ALL have to make compromises if we want to be able to pay our bills and put a little away for hard times. It ain't pretty,but reality is rarely pretty.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2019, 07:46:22 PM »
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It is not often I agree with Jazzhead, but yeah, Trump is/always will be/always has been a NY Liberal or a LIAR... you choose... The 3rd option is both... and you can guess which I select.

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You would agree with him more if he thumped on a bible.

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But lets just hear Trump in his own words... before you decide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHAHKGP10yc

Now having heard that again I ask, is Trump telling the truth or lying as you suggested (play acting for business purposes)?

I don't have speakers,so I have no idea what that was about.

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Odd most of Bible Thumpers fully understand the 10th commandment... it is you that doesn't.

You understand nothing within shouting distance of sanity.

 
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Perhaps you can point out where we said something against Trump's wealth?


Most of you are to "weaselly"  to say it outloud,but you think it.


 
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2019, 08:00:35 PM »
   Some of the Christians here are highly offended with your 'pie in the sky' analogies, @sneakypete 
   Please lets' not go there.  You are certainly entitled to express your opinion here but a Forum that avoids Religious Threads like the plague, it just seems disingenuous to even bring it up, it pizzes all the 'wrong' people off.  @sneakypete 

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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2019, 08:07:27 PM »
   Some of the Christians here are highly offended with your 'pie in the sky' analogies, @sneakypete 
   Please lets' not go there.  You are certainly entitled to express your opinion here but a Forum that avoids Religious Threads like the plague, it just seems disingenuous to even bring it up, it pizzes all the 'wrong' people off.  @sneakypete 



@corbe

I understand what you are saying,and while it is true on a theoretical basis the FACT is religious indoctrination is responsible for the political mindset of the Religious Right as Islam is to the Taliban. You can not discuss politics on a level playing field if you can't call them on their dogma.
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Re: Never Trump Republicans plotting to back Biden
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2019, 08:48:41 PM »
I spent most of my life as a registered Democrat.  I got elected by 89% in a majority Republican community.  Back then, I was a fiscal conservative, and a moderate for social issues.  Like many, I believed a woman had a right to choose in regard to abortion.  But with age comes wisdom, and greater knowledge, and a clearer view of right versus wrong.

When I was younger, I never heard of Margaret Sanger.  I never knew that Charles Lindbergh worked closely with her to develop eugenics policies.  Did not know that Lindbergh was a staunch supporter of Nazi Germany, so much so, he and his wife were planning to move there and establish residence in Germany.  And yet to this day, he and Sanger are heralded in this country as courageous. 

Well, live and learn....otherwise!

Judge Trump by what he does, and not what he said or did 20 years ago.  He is hands down the most conservative president in my lifetime since Eisenhower.  He is attempting to do more for right to life than any president.  For that issue alone, he is a champion conservative.

He has successfully implemented tax changes that scream conservative.  He is fighting almost alone for a secure border, and no other president has fought this hard.

He has strengthened our military and brought back respect for our nation globally.  He has forced our so called allies to carry more of the water, where they have failed to do so with prior Republican presidents, not to mention POSs like Obama.

He has reduced regulation in America unlike any prior Republican.  In fact, I consider his success far greater than Reagan, who when he left office, left a government much larger than what it was when he entered.  ANd that was one of Reagan's big planks when he ran, to reduce government.  Hmmm!

Fact is, Trump has had far more success implementing conservative principles as POTUS than any other, despite having nonstop resistance from both Democommies and Republicans.  Heck you have Romney and Lee wanting to pass legislation to stop Trump.  And those two b*st*rds consider themselves conservative.  People better awaken to the fact that Trump with his rough edges may well be the best conservative and effective president we have had in 60 years!

And if it wasn't for the fact the Democommies are total whack jobs, they would find him an easy president to work with, for he does want to produce results, but they are too damn stupid.  They choose to be led by the likes of a 29 year old bartender that is their current architect.  The GND could not be more idiotic if they tried.  There is nothing of merit in that, and they all have endorsed it.  At a time of when one party is literally insane, Trump despite constant and unrelenting attack, has remained strong.

With all going on, thank God Trump is as strong a leader as he is!!!!!!!!

Thanks for this. I don’t care what Trump calls himself, just as long as he keeps it up.

Seriously I cannot fathom all this navel gazing & bickering over semantics - arent results what we want?


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