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Politics of Bullshit
« on: September 16, 2019, 04:02:19 pm »
Beto O'Rourke gives naiveté a bad name.
By Charles Sykes
https://thebulwark.com/politics-of-bullshit/

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“Hell yes,” Beto insists amid a flurry of f-bombs, “we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47.”

We are, I guess, supposed to take O’Rourke seriously but not literally when he says that he will confiscate 15 million guns from Americans, because, surely. One in five firearms sold in the United States today is an AR-15. And Beto wants to take them away.

But seriousness isn’t the point is it? Beto is passionate. More passionate and emotional than anyone else. And realism really isn’t the point either, is it?

Beto isn’t making a realistic proposal for action; he’s performing an act of ideological self-pleasuring that it supposed to signal purity of heart and fervor of intention.

This is the politics of aspiration; in which candidates make “bold” proposals that they have no intention of actually enacting. This is, of course, the politics of bullshit . . .

. . . Donald Trump claimed that he would build a big, beautiful wall and that Mexico would pay for it. Elizabeth Warren proposes a plan for everything and says that her new “wealth tax” will cover the tab. Bernie and the others embrace sweeping environmental schemes that are unconnected with reality.

And no one takes them literally, of course. Because the bullshit is baked in.

Which brings us back to Beto.

This will be an unpopular opinion, but as Beto himself might say, f@ck it: There is something Trumpian about his latest posture . . .


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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2019, 04:06:05 pm »
Beto O'Rourke gives naiveté a bad name.
By Charles Sykes
https://thebulwark.com/politics-of-bullshit/

AOC and Beto are poster children for the loony left. 

Let 'em speak all they want.  They will help Trump get re-elected. 
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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 04:12:26 pm »
AOC and Beto are poster children for the loony left. 

Let 'em speak all they want.  They will help Trump get re-elected.

A recent post I saw on FB went something like this:

"Hey Beto!  I make lower receivers for AR-15s and, until you started running your mouth, my business was not doing all that well!  Things have changed thanks to you! Let me know if you need some $$$ to buy air time so you can run your mouth some more."
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2019, 05:03:32 pm »
A recent post I saw on FB went something like this:

"Hey Beto!  I make lower receivers for AR-15s and, until you started running your mouth, my business was not doing all that well!  Things have changed thanks to you! Let me know if you need some $$$ to buy air time so you can run your mouth some more."
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The moment any politician or officeholder anywhere says something bad about your business, start saying "ka-ching!" And start counting your jump in income.


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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2019, 05:05:11 pm »
@Bigun
The moment any politician or officeholder anywhere says something bad about your business, start saying "ka-ching!" And start counting your jump in income.

 :yowsa: Pretty much!
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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2019, 05:14:33 pm »
Consider a moment the era of Jefferson, Madison and Monroe
and ask yourself, were the likes of Beto present anywhere
within our politics during their time in office?????
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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2019, 06:35:27 pm »
Consider a moment the era of Jefferson, Madison and Monroe
and ask yourself, were the likes of Beto present anywhere
within our politics during their time in office?????
Yet we are the greatest!!!

Beto knows the key to defeating Trump is to out-Trump Trump. An impossible task IMO.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2019, 01:34:08 pm »
Beto knows the key to defeating Trump is to out-Trump Trump. An impossible task IMO.

 Making wild promises, whether it’s Mexico paying for a wall or giving healthcare to every American citizen, is how you feed your base.  That’s how you get people to donate and hit the pavement on your behalf.

Promising is the easy part. Implementation never happens. Because there are people who oppose these promises and are not just gonna sit back and let the opposition implement their beliefs upon them

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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2019, 01:45:54 pm »
Consider a moment the era of Jefferson, Madison and Monroe
and ask yourself, were the likes of Beto present anywhere
within our politics during their time in office?????   

Not defending Beto, just questioning your line of reasoning @Absalom   How'd you miss the gentlemanly dustup between Hamilton and Burr??

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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2019, 01:50:11 pm »
Beto knows the key to defeating Trump is to out-Trump Trump.

Yeah, that's working well for Mr. 2.5 percent....he should double his efforts.   :laugh:

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2019, 02:04:55 pm »
Yeah, that's working well for Mr. 2.5 percent....he should double his efforts.   :laugh:

I think he understands he has no path to any Democratic Party nomination so he’s liberated to blurt our whatever nonsense he wants
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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2019, 03:58:24 pm »
Not defending Beto, just questioning your line of reasoning @Absalom   How'd you miss the gentlemanly dustup between Hamilton and Burr??
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My line of reasoning???
I made an observation not an argument!!
Hamilton and Burr???
What on earth are you talking about??
Oh, never mind.
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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2019, 04:40:20 pm »
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My line of reasoning???
I made an observation not an argument!!
Hamilton and Burr???
What on earth are you talking about??
Oh, never mind.

You've really not heard about what happened between the political rivals, Hamilton and Burr??

Really @Absalom

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Re: Politics of Bullshit
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2019, 12:47:19 am »
LMAO wrote:
"I think he understands he has no path to any Democratic Party nomination so he’s liberated to blurt our whatever nonsense he wants..."

Look at it this way:
O'Rourke is saying what the rest of 'em actually think, but are wise enough NOT to say outloud.

But don't think that for a moment they wouldn't DO the same ... IF they only had the power to carry out their agenda.