Conservatives offer stark warning to Trump, GOP on background checks

[truth_seeker]

@Sanguine



There is no such thing as a "GOOD"gun control bill.

How about approaching it from the side of known dangerous people, that should probably be locked of, but at least kept away from firearms, etc.

 

[Cyber Liberty]

How about approaching it from the side of known dangerous people, that should probably be locked of, but at least kept away from firearms, etc.

Those folks will kill using a baseball bat or a tire iron (or lacking those, a bicycle lock).  The only way to be safe is to lock them away from decent folk.  If we did that, then we'd know if they are sane enough to be walking free, then they are sane enough to have a firearm. 

[roamer_1]

How about approaching it from the side of known dangerous people, that should probably be locked of, but at least kept away from firearms, etc.

There is NOTHING you can do to keep me or anyone else from obtaining a firearm.
All you can do is write laws preventing people who would follow the laws, which the criminal and the insane do not.

So in effect your laws will do nothing other than further impinging the need and the right of the law-abiding. Nothing.

[sneakypete]

The problem with going down in the History books as a "great President" is that we know who is writing most of the History books. College professors. Leftists.

According to them, FDR was "great".

@Smokin Joe

Yes,but even that might change. They got away with this stuff for decades because nobody was paying attention,and nobody was blowing the whistle on them. That can't be said about the politics of today,when everybody has access to the internet. The millionaire with the private island and jet being exposed as a child rapist and pimp is one example of something you would have never seen reported prior to a few years ago. You wouldn't hear nothing about the rich and famous bribing their children into colleges,either.

As a famous group of musical airheads once sang,"The times,they are a-changing."

[sneakypete]

First, the ruling defines a semiautomatic action as being made into a fully automatic one by the addition of a device that has no effect on the function of the action, only on the ability of the user to use it.
A bipod and a hand crank/cam arrangement would potentially work as well and be as or more accurate if set up right.

@Smokin Joe

The good news is that with some of the new judges Trump has been appointing,we are MUCH more likely to see courts accepting these cases and then ruling against these things than in the past.

And IF that does happen and one un-constitutional gun law falls,look for an avalanche of them to follow.

And yes, suppressors should be hanging from a display in blister packs at Walmart and other outlets.

Kind of ironic,that Europe,where only Russia has a 2nd Amendment type of right now that communism was overthrown,has laws in some nations REQUIRING suppressors on hunting rifles,ain't it?

[sneakypete]

How about approaching it from the side of known dangerous people, that should probably be locked of, but at least kept away from firearms, etc.

@truth_seeker

I honestly don't see that as a problem. If someone is known to be dangerous to the general public,WHY are they allowed to roam the streets freely,where they can harm themselves as well as others?

[truth_seeker]

@truth_seeker

I honestly don't see that as a problem. If someone is known to be dangerous to the general public,WHY are they allowed to roam the streets freely,where they can harm themselves as well as others?

It seems often the mass murderer is already known by LE, to be dangerous.

Nicolas Cruz is the first one to come to mind.

[Cyber Liberty]

It seems often the mass murderer is already known by LE, to be dangerous.

Nicolas Cruz is the first one to come to mind.

He's not the only one that comes to mind, for sure.  Something is preventing LE from acting.  In Cruz's case, LE went out of their way to look away.

[Smokin Joe]

How about approaching it from the side of known dangerous people, that should probably be locked of, but at least kept away from firearms, etc.

But that would be putting the lie to the Left's whole mantra about where the problem lies....

"Gun crime"
"Gun violence"
and such would become, as it really is, a problem of specific People.

They are so hung up on blaming inanimate objects the papers were talking about planes running into buildings on 9/11 like the planes were the cause of that, and not the tool used.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

Yes,but even that might change. They got away with this stuff for decades because nobody was paying attention,and nobody was blowing the whistle on them. That can't be said about the politics of today,when everybody has access to the internet. The millionaire with the private island and jet being exposed as a child rapist and pimp is one example of something you would have never seen reported prior to a few years ago. You wouldn't hear nothing about the rich and famous bribing their children into colleges,either.

As a famous group of musical airheads once sang,"The times,they are a-changing."

Funny you should quote that era of music, because it was the same era that saw the Communists of The New Left take over the Democrat Party. HHH was about the last.

[sneakypete]

Funny you should quote that era of music, because it was the same era that saw the Communists of The New Left take over the Democrat Party. HHH was about the last.

@Smokin Joe

The Communists took over the Dim Party when King Roosevelt and his commie wife-cousin were elected during the depression. Chances are if he hadn't died,he would still be president and have sent US troops,food,and equipment into Russia to help save Communism there like he did in the 40's. We are still suffering from the effects of his leftist Supreme Court appointments even now.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

The Communists took over the Dim Party when King Roosevelt and his commie wife-cousin were elected during the depression. Chances are if he hadn't died,he would still be president and have sent US troops,food,and equipment into Russia to help save Communism there like he did in the 40's. We are still suffering from the effects of his leftist Supreme Court appointments even now.

No argument here, although they openly took over the Party in the 60s and 70s, and ever since, have been pulling back the veil.

Roosevelt's most damnable act was the E.O. 6102, outlawing private 'hoarding' of gold, and 'redeeming' that lawful money in Federal Reserve Notes at $20.67/oz., after which the price of gold was reset $35.00 and the notes thus devalued by almost 50% overnight.  Anyone who had any gold, who had not lost their money in bank collapses, was thus rendered a criminal. A relative took up coin collecting about then, did not comply, and the collection he kept sold for enough in the 1990s to pay for his wife's retirement.