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In your opinion Was Trump's decision to Fire Bolton Good or Bad?

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It's his perogative (Jury still out option)
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Voting closed: September 15, 2019, 02:33:31 PM

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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #50 on: September 10, 2019, 01:38:48 PM »
Guess what...




So you are like an animal that is extinct.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #51 on: September 10, 2019, 01:39:02 PM »
Poor John.  Worked for four administrations … and still no war with Iran.  Damn!

His departure pleases me.

 *****rollingeyes*****  Bless your heart.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #52 on: September 10, 2019, 01:39:57 PM »
   That's 4 different National Security Advisors Trump has had in less than 3 years and surprisingly that's not a record, yet, Reagan had 6 in 8 years and Eisenhower had 5 (Cutler twice) in 8 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Advisor_%28United_States%29
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #53 on: September 10, 2019, 01:40:40 PM »
*****rollingeyes*****  Bless your heart.

Are you begging me to post the happy dance gif?   :laugh:
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #54 on: September 10, 2019, 01:40:48 PM »
@austingirl IMHO no it's not about the Taliban meeting...it's about dealing with the Iranians.

Their foreign minister Zarif and Senator Rand Paul have been quite chummy lately.  Rand even invited him to a meeting July 15th when he was in town for the UN meetings.

The Iranians have been doing a lot of propaganda work against Bolton as well.

Rand holds his daddy's sentiments towards Iran (Blames the U.S.).

I fully expect to see Rand Paul take the lead in the Iran negotiations and Trump soften his rhetoric towards the mad mullahs in the near future.

Dr. Ron Paul still sees the U.S. as the invaders and the provokers and perhaps opening the door for war.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVkZ3xbvdk&feature=youtu.be
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #55 on: September 10, 2019, 01:42:17 PM »
Dr. Ron Paul still sees the U.S. as the invaders and the provokers and perhaps opening the door for war.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWVkZ3xbvdk&feature=youtu.be


Stuff like this is why he and his writings are so popular at places like antiwar.com and LewRockwell.com
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #56 on: September 10, 2019, 01:45:28 PM »
Poor John.  Worked for four administrations … and still no war with Iran.  Damn!

His departure pleases me.

Defamation by local Briefers in 3..2..  oops too late.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #57 on: September 10, 2019, 01:45:52 PM »
Are you begging me to post the happy dance gif?   :laugh:


Cause Isolationism worked out so well.


Why make a deal with Iran? Their economy is in shambles and yet they are still funding Hamas, propping up the butcher of Syria, sworn enemy of the US and our true ally Israel.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #58 on: September 10, 2019, 01:46:31 PM »
   That's 4 different National Security Advisors Trump has had in less than 3 years and surprisingly that's not a record, yet, Reagan had 6 in 8 years and Eisenhower had 5 (Cutler twice) in 8 years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Advisor_%28United_States%29

Helluva lot of turnover for a guy who only claims to hire the best.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #59 on: September 10, 2019, 01:47:34 PM »
Poor John.  Worked for four administrations … and still no war with Iran.  Damn!

His departure pleases me.

Americans may end up wishing that we had gone to war, officially, with Iran before it's all over. 

If we had, it would be over, we would have won and Iran would no longer be a nuclear threat to us and to Israel.   Instead, thanks to the likes of Obama and the Muslime Brotherhood ... the enemy won that battle against the US.... possibly only to go on to win the future war (multiple nuked US cities resulting in our defeat).  Remember, Iran is just another proxy that Russia and China uses against us. 

Bolton may yet end up being maligned and ignored just like General Patton was ignored and dismissed (when he wanted to go after Russia), much to the detriment of the peace and possibly even the survival of the United States.  Time will tell.

« Last Edit: September 10, 2019, 01:48:29 PM by XenaLee »
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2019, 01:49:21 PM »

Cause Isolationism worked out so well.


Why make a deal with Iran? Their economy is in shambles and yet they are still funding Hamas, propping up the butcher of Syria, sworn enemy of the US and our true ally Israel.

They're funneling oil to Syria...and they've got piles of cash that Obama sent them to keep Hamas up and running.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2019, 01:50:20 PM »
I believe Bolton when he said he offered to resign last night and Trump said, We'll talk tomorrow...

Trump should have accepted his resignation then but instead he chose to publicly embarrass/insult Bolton..figures
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #62 on: September 10, 2019, 01:50:49 PM »
Poor John.  Worked for four administrations … and still no war with Iran.  Damn!

His departure pleases me.

Why the HELL do people persist in this delusion that taking down the Mullah regime in Iran would require US going to war with them?  I would not!

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And his departure decidedly does not please me!

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« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2019, 01:51:48 PM »
Why the HELL do people persist in this delusion that taking down the Mullah regime in Iran would require US going to war with them?  I would not!

@Right_in_Virginia

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Amazing how many people fall for the Progressive propaganda.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2019, 01:56:00 PM »
@Bigun

Amazing how many people fall for the Progressive propaganda.

 :yowsa: pointing-up  Including the president apparently!

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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #65 on: September 10, 2019, 01:57:44 PM »

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Palpable tension between WH & NSC staffs right now.
A pro-Bolton NSC official came to speak with reporters inside the West Wing when Press Secy Stephanie Grisham walked by, gave a look & said: "Oh look, right outside my office" as she walked past.

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This conversation took place with a few reporters in the West Wing. As it was happening, press secretary Stephanie Grisham came by and said, “oh, look - right outside my office.” The implication was Grisham disliked the source giving Bolton’s point of view right here.

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I asked Stephanie Grisham about the source close to Bolton telling us there had been no bad deals on Bolton’s watch. Grisham replied: “I don’t know what that means.”

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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2019, 02:07:31 PM »
It almost sounds a bit like "You can't resign because I'm firing you"....at this point, I'd say we have limited information on what this is about.

If Bolton stood on principle about something like allowing the Iranian representatives at Camp David or something, then, that is admirable.

It's been said before "Rubio guides Latin American policy" which he denies, saying only he advises on it.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article158342954.html

I wouldn't put the cart before the horse at this point, per Rand Paul and any other Senators who have the President's ear but if he goes left on foreign policy, I'm sure that will cause waves.

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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2019, 02:11:14 PM »
Did Fired Bolton Derail Taliban Talks?

Was John Bolton fired because he didn't want a peace process to succeed?

By: Mark Angelides |  September 10, 2019
 
National Security Advisor John Bolton has been fired by President Trump, who cited strong disagreements. The news came as a shock to many in the media who likely received their first clue via Trump’s favored delivery method.  He tweeted: “I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration.”

But what does this mean for America’s national security: Does it signal a less hawkish approach, or is there something more at play?

The Taliban Trauma

Earlier this week, the president announced that his surprise talks with the Taliban on ending the conflict in Afghanistan fell through and that he cancelled the meeting. Many are already suggesting that actions taken by Bolton could have led to the breakdown of communication. Whether it was Bolton’s firm position on Afghanistan and the need for a heightened military presence or some other factor, it’s difficult not to see a connection.

Afghanistan and a workable peace process appear to be something that Trump has been working on through back channels that likely cut Bolton out of the loop. It has been reported that Zalmay Khalilzad, the Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation at the State Department, even went so far as to not allow Bolton to remove a draft agreement from the conference room where they were meeting to discuss possible peace solutions.

Summit Collapse

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https://www.libertynation.com/did-fired-bolton-derail-taliban-talks/
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2019, 02:14:08 PM »
This firing this morning appearently caught everyone by surprise.  Bolton was supposed to be at the press conference alongside Pompeo.  He was listed on the media avail announcement.
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #69 on: September 10, 2019, 02:16:40 PM »
Did Fired Bolton Derail Taliban Talks?

Was John Bolton fired because he didn't want a peace process to succeed?

By: Mark Angelides |  September 10, 2019
 
National Security Advisor John Bolton has been fired by President Trump, who cited strong disagreements. The news came as a shock to many in the media who likely received their first clue via Trump’s favored delivery method.  He tweeted: “I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration.”

But what does this mean for America’s national security: Does it signal a less hawkish approach, or is there something more at play?

The Taliban Trauma

Earlier this week, the president announced that his surprise talks with the Taliban on ending the conflict in Afghanistan fell through and that he cancelled the meeting. Many are already suggesting that actions taken by Bolton could have led to the breakdown of communication. Whether it was Bolton’s firm position on Afghanistan and the need for a heightened military presence or some other factor, it’s difficult not to see a connection.

Afghanistan and a workable peace process appear to be something that Trump has been working on through back channels that likely cut Bolton out of the loop. It has been reported that Zalmay Khalilzad, the Special Representative for Afghanistan Reconciliation at the State Department, even went so far as to not allow Bolton to remove a draft agreement from the conference room where they were meeting to discuss possible peace solutions.

Summit Collapse

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https://www.libertynation.com/did-fired-bolton-derail-taliban-talks/

Ok corbe.  Do your thing.   

Make a poll on this "was Trump right to fire Bolton".   And maybe a poll on who thinks staying in Afghanistan (like Bolton apparently did) is the correct stance.  Me?  I'd rather we get the hell out of there... what good is it doing?   But that's just me and I don't know the "whys" of staying in Afghanistan vs. leaving.  ?
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #70 on: September 10, 2019, 02:18:38 PM »
Why the HELL do people persist in this delusion that taking down the Mullah regime in Iran would require US going to war with them?  I would not!

@Right_in_Virginia

And his departure decidedly does not please me! 

I've always thought John Bolton is a war monger (not just with Iran) and have felt better when he wasn't affiliated with any White House, in any capacity. 

I know you have always thought the opposite @Bigun   I hope we can agree to disagree as friends.   :beer:
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #71 on: September 10, 2019, 02:22:07 PM »
I've always thought John Bolton is a war monger (not just with Iran) and have felt better when he wasn't affiliated with any White House, in any capacity. 

I know you have always thought the opposite @Bigun   I hope we can agree to disagree as friends.   :beer:

Of course, we can @Right_in_Virginia but you need to lose this idea that standing up to people = a warmonger!  It doesn't!

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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #72 on: September 10, 2019, 02:23:58 PM »
Of course, we can @Right_in_Virginia but you need to lose this idea that standing up to people = a warmonger!  It doesn't!

If it did.... that would make Trump a warmonger, as well. 
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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #73 on: September 10, 2019, 02:27:02 PM »
If it did.... that would make Trump a warmonger, as well.

The reason people see John Bolton as a warmonger is that ALL the surrender monkeys populating the Department of State keep promulgating that idea.  THEY are the enemy within.

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Re: BREAKING...John Bolton Fired!
« Reply #74 on: September 10, 2019, 02:27:52 PM »
Ok corbe.  Do your thing.   

Make a poll on this "was Trump right to fire Bolton".   And maybe a poll on who thinks staying in Afghanistan (like Bolton apparently did) is the correct stance.  Me?  I'd rather we get the hell out of there... what good is it doing?   But that's just me and I don't know the "whys" of staying in Afghanistan vs. leaving.  ?

@XenaLee I did a poll.  It's at:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,375071.0.html

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