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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #225 on: September 12, 2019, 10:59:08 am »

I just read about Mark Sanford from his birth to now.  He won every election by a large margin, with one or two exceptions, when he ran for an office and this includes after he went to another country to see a woman.  He kept winning by large margins - that was extraordinary.  One of his primary reasons for running for office was,and is, to stop overspending.  He is right when he says Trump has spent more money than Obama right now and other presidents also overspent putting us in the financial trouble we are in.  (The last two times we spent within our budget was when Kasich was in the House of Representatives heading the Budget Committee.)

Sanford's  history in this regard will resonate with voters.  The woman thing he had did not matter as he kept winning offices after that by large margins based on his fiduciary goals of staying within a budget and reducing debt.  Which is more important - his affair or getting this government to stay within a budget and reduce debt? 

Trump has already tried bringing up Sanford's affair; he calls him, “Mr. Appalachian Trail.”  Trump is leaving himself open for Sanford to speak about the numerous affairs Trump had while married to his present wife and wives before her.  What is a name(s) for Trump having these affairs?  "Grab women Trump", "Sleep around Trump",  "I like sex with any pretty  woman Trump" - the names are endless.

Mark Sanford is running for President - he could win as he has won numerous times before.  What will do him in are the states that have shut down their Republican primary,leaving Trump with no primary opponent. 

No hypocrisy and delusion here. Nope, none whatsoever.   88devil

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #226 on: September 12, 2019, 12:24:37 pm »
No hypocrisy and delusion here. Nope, none whatsoever.   88devil

You need to up your game, RIV.  That's just feeble.
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #227 on: September 12, 2019, 12:34:43 pm »
@Jazzhead

You said: "My apologies for the imprecision.   Here's what I believe - that Trump as the nominee is almost certain to lose.   Among the reasons..."

I agree with you.  I just read about Mark Sanford from his birth to now.  He won every election by a large margin, with one or two exceptions, when he ran for an office and this includes after he went to another country to see a woman.  He kept winning by large margins - that was extraordinary.  One of his primary reasons for running for office was,and is, to stop overspending.  He is right when he says Trump has spent more money than Obama right now and other presidents also overspent putting us in the financial trouble we are in.  (The last two times we spent within our budget was when Kasich was in the House of Representatives heading the Budget Committee.)

Sanford's  history in this regard will resonate with voters.  The woman thing he had did not matter as he kept winning offices after that by large margins based on his fiduciary goals of staying within a budget and reducing debt.  Which is more important - his affair or getting this government to stay within a budget and reduce debt? 

Trump has already tried bringing up Sanford's affair; he calls him, “Mr. Appalachian Trail.”  Trump is leaving himself open for Sanford to speak about the numerous affairs Trump had while married to his present wife and wives before her.  What is a name(s) for Trump having these affairs?  "Grab women Trump", "Sleep around Trump",  "I like sex with any pretty  woman Trump" - the names are endless.

Mark Sanford is running for President - he could win as he has won numerous times before.  What will do him in are the states that have shut down their Republican primary,leaving Trump with no primary opponent.

Thanks, @Victoria33      Sanford is a serious and principled conservative with the ability to articulate an alternative to the Dems' socialism.    That will be a useful skill in 2020.

The left wing of the Democratic party views Trump as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to install their radicalism while the American people are distracted.   Not by the failure of Trump's policies but by the wearisome sideshow he's created.   It is foolish to deny the corrosiveness of that sideshow and the reality of an unleashing of forces that will have unintended consequences. 

Sometimes the right person to start the job isn't the right person to finish it.   Trump provided what Nixon used to call the silent majority a vehicle to express their frustration.   But in 2020,  someone else needs to be recruited to refine and finish what's begun.   Because a loss for us now will have consequences that will threaten the Republic.   
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #228 on: September 12, 2019, 12:42:13 pm »
What will do him in are the states that have shut down their Republican primary,leaving Trump with no primary opponent.

This is truly outrageous.    If Trump has an 87% GOP approval rating,  why the need to deny a voice to those of us whose loyalty and support built the party?  What is he and his base so afraid of?   A serious discussion about deficits and trade wars?   

The Trumpsters claim that the GOP is theirs now.  Maybe it is, maybe not.   But to attain that goal by force and not the choice of the GOP primary voter is something Republicans of all stripes should decry.   Otherwise we are mice, not men.     
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #229 on: September 12, 2019, 02:12:53 pm »
This is truly outrageous.    If Trump has an 87% GOP approval rating,  why the need to deny a voice to those of us whose loyalty and support built the party? What is he and his base so afraid of?   A serious discussion about deficits and trade wars?   

The Trumpsters claim that the GOP is theirs now.  Maybe it is, maybe not.   But to attain that goal by force and not the choice of the GOP primary voter is something Republicans of all stripes should decry.   Otherwise we are mice, not men.   

Yeah, and I posited that canceling primaries was probably not a good idea and predicted that his opposition would USE this against Trump... just as you are doing.   Like clockwork. 

Trump has nothing to do with the decision those states' GOPers made, btw.  He has no 'say so', IOW.  What ""they"" (the GOPers in those states) are afraid of is probably the ssdd and usual leftist Democrat lack of ethics where the rats "cross over" and vote in Republican primaries.... in this case, for Trump's opponents.  Duh.
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #230 on: September 12, 2019, 02:45:53 pm »
Yeah, and I posited that canceling primaries was probably not a good idea and predicted that his opposition would USE this against Trump... just as you are doing.   Like clockwork. 

Trump has nothing to do with the decision those states' GOPers made, btw.  He has no 'say so', IOW.  What ""they"" (the GOPers in those states) are afraid of is probably the ssdd and usual leftist Democrat lack of ethics where the rats "cross over" and vote in Republican primaries.... in this case, for Trump's opponents.  Duh.

Are you sure Trump or someone in his camp is not involved?

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #231 on: September 12, 2019, 02:53:00 pm »
Yeah, and I posited that canceling primaries was probably not a good idea and predicted that his opposition would USE this against Trump... just as you are doing.   Like clockwork. 

Trump has nothing to do with the decision those states' GOPers made, btw.  He has no 'say so', IOW.  What ""they"" (the GOPers in those states) are afraid of is probably the ssdd and usual leftist Democrat lack of ethics where the rats "cross over" and vote in Republican primaries.... in this case, for Trump's opponents.  Duh.

Who pays to run Presidential Primaries?  How many offices are decided in a Presidential Primary?
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #232 on: September 12, 2019, 04:33:53 pm »
You need to up your game, RIV.  That's just feeble.

 :laugh: Of course it is, Jazzy.   :laugh: