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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #125 on: September 11, 2019, 05:14:24 pm »
Defferent day, same song: "Orange Man Bad." Oh "Orange Man Bad"

sung by the Briefer Chorus

"We got the 2016 primaries wrong,

We got the 2016 election wrong.

Our leader the fake deacon is long gone,

But we don't have any new music

So every day we do the same old song."

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #126 on: September 11, 2019, 05:15:21 pm »
And you're marching right along with them in "useful idiot" lockstep. There is dumb. Damn Dumb. And then there's conservatives who believe its worth having a crushing leftist electoral victory in order to force the GOP back towards "true conservatism". Dumb as a word can't even touch that kind of abject idiocy.

It's all incidental to me. I see no appreciable difference. So I will fight the greater war beyond this one and hope the two sides destroy each other... Whatever comes out the other end is what will be, at this point.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #127 on: September 11, 2019, 05:16:07 pm »
To the tune of 'Sing a Song' By The Carpenters.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #128 on: September 11, 2019, 05:17:41 pm »
So you and everyone else who doesn't want an uber-Socialist takeover of every branch of government better hope you are wrong in your assessment, and had best fight like hell to keep it from happening. The alternative is, literally, the end of conservatism as a political force in the United States.

Tump IS an uber-socialist. No appreciable difference.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #129 on: September 11, 2019, 06:05:20 pm »
"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #130 on: September 11, 2019, 06:08:56 pm »
Here's reality. President Trump is the 2020 GOP presidential candidate. There is zero chance of any other person filling that role. Zero. No primary will change that, he isn't "stepping down and endorsing" anyone. He IS running and he IS the GOP/Conservative candidate for 2020. Done deal. Over. Period.

The Iowa Republican Caucus is nearly five months off, and the convention is over six months beyond that.  You have plenty of time to convince Trump to step aside.  Don't claim it was a done deal after it really is too late.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #131 on: September 11, 2019, 06:11:15 pm »
Defferent day, same song: "Orange Man Bad." Oh "Orange Man Bad"

sung by the Briefer Chorus

"We got the 2016 primaries wrong,

We got the 2016 election wrong.

Our leader the fake deacon is long gone,

But we don't have any new music

So every day we do the same old song."

And every day Trump fans sing his praises and tell the rest of us we are haters,  closet Democrats and/or enemies of the state. 

Your chit gets old too. 

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #132 on: September 11, 2019, 06:11:32 pm »
Tump IS an uber-socialist. No appreciable difference.

Umm..... but.....

uber-socialists (or socialists of 'any' stripe)....

don't roll back government regulations.   They only increase government regulations.

Just SAYIN..... :whistle:
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #133 on: September 11, 2019, 06:17:49 pm »
Tump IS an uber-socialist. No appreciable difference.

And you are Uber-wrong. Yet, again.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #134 on: September 11, 2019, 06:17:59 pm »
Umm..... but.....

uber-socialists (or socialists of 'any' stripe)....

don't roll back government regulations.   They only increase government regulations.

Just SAYIN..... :whistle:

HE HASN'T.
Oh sure, he has piddled with it so he could make the claim - But last I looked, he 'rolled back' somewhere between 500 and 1000 regulations in a stack of regulations an acre wide and 5 stories tall.

Utterly insignificant.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #135 on: September 11, 2019, 06:18:40 pm »
And you are Uber-wrong. Yet, again.

No, I am not.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #136 on: September 11, 2019, 06:21:02 pm »
HE HASN'T.
Oh sure, he has piddled with it so he could make the claim - But last I looked, he 'rolled back' somewhere between 500 and 1000 regulations in a stack of regulations an acre wide and 5 stories tall.

Utterly insignificant.

Scuse me?   500-1000 regulations rolled back is "insignificant"?   I'd say it was more a case of being "just a start".

Point is.... he's not a socialist if he rolls back regs (ie less government control).   Also...the economy is booming and it sure as hell would NOT be if one of the gdamned DemocRats was in the WH.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #137 on: September 11, 2019, 06:23:20 pm »
Scuse me?   500-1000 regulations rolled back is "insignificant"?   I'd say it was more a case of being "just a start".

Point is.... he's not a socialist if he rolls back regs (ie less government control).   Also...the economy is booming and it sure as hell would NOT be if one of the gdamned DemocRats was in the WH.

Right - Just a start - Like the 1% of the waaaaalllll!!!!

And Mussolini made the trains run on time. All Y'all won't get that until it's too late.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #138 on: September 11, 2019, 06:25:27 pm »
Scuse me?   500-1000 regulations rolled back is "insignificant"?   I'd say it was more a case of being "just a start".

Point is.... he's not a socialist if he rolls back regs (ie less government control).   Also...the economy is booming and it sure as hell would NOT be if one of the gdamned DemocRats was in the WH.

"There's no difference between Trump and the rats."

"But what about his policies X Y & Z and their results?"

"So what"

Thats how these conversations go. Why bother?

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #139 on: September 11, 2019, 06:27:46 pm »
Right - Just a start - Like the 1% of the waaaaalllll!!!!

And Mussolini made the trains run on time. All Y'all won't get that until it's too late.

I never was ""on board"" for that wall, hon.... so it really doesn't matter to me if it gets built or not.  I was always (and still am) more for changing the idiotic immigration laws (like catch & release, asylum status, etc.) and enforcing the damned laws we already had on the books for a refreshing change (despite Obama's and Obama-appointed judges' leftist edicts).  But I have heard and read that new wall IS being constructed.... as we speak.
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #140 on: September 11, 2019, 06:30:12 pm »
"There's no difference between Trump and the rats."

"But what about his policies X Y & Z and their results?"

"So what"

Thats how these conversations go. Why bother?

Why bother?   

Well....I do have to be in the mood for this, true.   But... it's too damned hot to be outside.  The plants are already withered and almost gone.  The only other thing to be doing besides being here is house cleaning (vacuuming, mopping, etc.).   So...

here I am!!!    happy77
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« Reply #141 on: September 11, 2019, 06:36:40 pm »
I never was ""on board"" for that wall, hon.... so it really doesn't matter to me if it gets built or not.  I was always (and still am) more for changing the idiotic immigration laws (like catch & release, asylum status, etc.) and enforcing the damned laws we already had on the books for a refreshing change (despite Obama's and Obama-appointed judges' leftist edicts).  But I have heard and read that new wall IS being constructed.... as we speak.

Right. a mere pittance. and for the pittance he can claim his success.
And in the mean time, the way he got that done was to initiate a new way to get around the Constitutional imperative that the House allocates the money.

For the pittance, the unconscionable sacrifice.
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #142 on: September 11, 2019, 06:41:57 pm »
Right. a mere pittance. and for the pittance he can claim his success.
And in the mean time, the way he got that done was to initiate a new way to get around the Constitutional imperative that the House allocates the money.

For the pittance, the unconscionable sacrifice.
When they are gesturing boldly with the right hand, look at what the left hand is doing.

Yeah, well.... enemies abound.   But I'll put my money on the ones in power right now and hope they stay in power....as long as possible....

to stave off the demise of this nation (impending) under the control of radical leftist Democrats.

America is thriving under Trump and his policies.   I vote for more of that ""sacrifice""!
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« Reply #143 on: September 11, 2019, 07:01:59 pm »
I vote for more of that ""sacrifice""!

Till all is gone.  **nononono*

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« Reply #144 on: September 11, 2019, 07:07:34 pm »
Till all is gone.  **nononono*

It's all going to be 'gone' under the Democrats.   Obama's eight years of injustice, stagnation and treasonous treachery was just the warm up.   I'll support Trump over more of that hell ANY day.
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« Reply #145 on: September 11, 2019, 07:20:43 pm »
It's all going to be 'gone' under the Democrats.   Obama's eight years of injustice, stagnation and treasonous treachery was just the warm up.   I'll support Trump over more of that hell ANY day.

Except that it's the same thing.

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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #146 on: September 11, 2019, 07:24:24 pm »
The Iowa Republican Caucus is nearly five months off, and the convention is over six months beyond that.  You have plenty of time to convince Trump to step aside.  Don't claim it was a done deal after it really is too late.

QFT.   We must not let the Trumpers intimidate us that,  like Thanos,  Trump is inevitable.   We are a grand coalition.   We should be standing up in righteous outrage at party poobahs cancelling primaries to deny ordinary Republicans a voice concerning the coming trainwreck.   
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« Reply #147 on: September 11, 2019, 07:31:10 pm »
Hate to tell you scooter... But your party is already split.

That same "split" was there in 2016, and Trump won anyway because the NeverTrump faction is so small.  But there is no way in hell for any Republican to win the presidency, or for the GOP to hold on to the Senate, if you lose the 40% of the party that are hardcore Trump supporters.  And you can't have another nominee without alienating all those people.  You guys like talking about reality, and that's reality.  You may dislike those people, but they are currently are a plurality -- at least -- in the party.

As for the idea that 2016 was somehow the exception because Hillary was their worst possible candidate, I disagree.  Hillary was perceived as sufficiently moderate that she attracted support from some more moderate Republicans.  And from some of the money that normally supports Republicans.  But if the Dem nominee is a hard leftist like Sanders or Warren, they're going to be flatly unacceptable to a lot of moderates.

Heck, Tulsi Gabbard has come out and blasted her fellow Democrats for favoring an open border -- that's not something even Hillary supported.  But thanks to Julian Castor, every single one of the likely nominees is now on record as supporting the decriminalization of entering the country illegally.  And that's a very unpopular position with most voters.
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #148 on: September 11, 2019, 07:34:00 pm »
We should be standing up in righteous outrage at party poobahs cancelling primaries to deny ordinary Republicans a voice concerning the coming trainwreck.
Seems to me the vast majority of Republicans support cancelling the primaries, and supporting who they believe to be the inevitable nominee.  I sense no groundswell of support for Sanders, or for anyone else for that matter.  There is a small but vocal minority of Republicans demanding an alternative to someone supported by the vast majority of the party.

It's not the just the party elites who support cancelling the Presidential primaries, but most rank and file Republicans as well.

ETA:  And @Jazzhead , it's probably worth noting that the others on your side in this argument all seem to be people who refuse to vote for Trump in the general election, and who don't even want to see him re-elected if he's the nominee.  They see no difference between Trump and the Democrats, so they really don't care if Trump's chances of winning in a general election are sabotaged.
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Re: Sanford announces challenge to Trump
« Reply #149 on: September 11, 2019, 07:40:26 pm »
"There's no difference between Trump and the rats."

"But what about his policies X Y & Z and their results?"

"So what"

Thats how these conversations go. Why bother?

@skeeter

We bother because it's important to us, just like you bother because it's important to you.

I sense in some on this board that you are frustrated that people who don't support Trump have the audacity to even speak about it.

Let me say this...... it is worth the bother, if you care.

I care.  You care.

Keep "bothering."
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