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On January 4, 2013, National Institute of Justice Deputy Director Greg Ridgeway observed universal background checks need to be coupled with a gun registry in order to be effective.

Ridgeway’s observation came as the Obama administration was brainstorming on possible gun controls to push in the weeks after the attack on Sandy Hook Elementary School.

Breitbart News has Ridgeway’s document, “Summary of Select Firearm Violence Prevention Strategies.”

The summary looks at gun buybacks, “high capacity” magazine bans, “assault weapons” bans, and universal background checks.

In the section on universal background checks Ridgeway wrote, “Effectiveness depends on…requiring gun registration.”

Ridgeway noted:

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Most states do not have a registry of firearm ownership. Currently NICS background checks are destroyed within 24 hours. Some states maintain registration of all firearms. Gun registration aims to 1) increase owner responsibility by directly connecting an owner with a gun, 2) improve law enforcement’s ability to retrieve guns from owners prohibited from possessing firearms.

Gun registration also allows for the monitoring of multiple gun purchases in a short period of time.

On August 13, 2019, Breitbart News reported universal background checks are unenforceable without a gun registry. The registry is necessary because universal background checks portend a check for every sale, whether retail or private. Therefore, the government has to know where all guns are, at all times, in order to know whether a gun is changing hands.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/09/06/flashback-obama-admin-universal-background-checks-need-gun-registry/
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #1 on: September 06, 2019, 06:23:18 pm »
Yeah, they definitely have to go together...

I don't have a problem with that, though.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2019, 06:28:13 pm »
Yeah, they definitely have to go together...

I don't have a problem with that, though.

Why...how anti Constitutional of you.  *****rollingeyes*****
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2019, 09:01:00 pm »
FTA:

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Most states do not have a registry of firearm ownership. Currently NICS background checks are destroyed within 24 hours. Some states maintain registration of all firearms. Gun registration aims to 1) increase owner responsibility by directly connecting an owner with a gun, 2) improve law enforcement’s ability to retrieve guns from owners prohibited from possessing firearms.

See that item 2 right there?  This is proof positive the purpose of Registration is Confiscation.  All the gummit would have to do is declare AR-15s illegal, which would "prohibit" everyone "from possessing" the firearms.  Fits right in with the highlighted sentence above.

Yeah, they definitely have to go together...

I don't have a problem with that, though.

If you had a lick of Constitutional awareness, you would have been embarrassed to write that.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2019, 10:03:23 pm »
Why...how anti Constitutional of you.  *****rollingeyes*****

Not very.

We can still have guns.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2019, 10:18:52 pm »
Not very.

We can still have guns.

Not if your friends have their way.  the time to stop your freinds from seizing them is now, not later when you can say, "Oh well, I guess you can't have them after all."
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2019, 10:28:25 pm »
Not very.

We can still have guns.

We?  The only thing you have ever shot off was your mouth.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2019, 03:02:48 am »
Yeah, they definitely have to go together...

I don't have a problem with that, though.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2019, 03:15:54 am »
There is a clause in the Constitution you need to get a better grasp of: "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Okay...we can still buy guns with a registry
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2019, 03:22:49 am »
Okay...we can still buy guns with a registry
Sorry I consider registration an infringement, and so does anyone else with an IQ above say 70.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2019, 03:24:25 am »
Sorry I consider registration an infringement, and so does anyone else with an IQ above say 70.

But, then, any law controlling the sale of arms is an infringement. Is it not?
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2019, 03:24:46 am »
Okay...we can still buy guns with a registry

That covers the "Buying," now what about the "keeping" part after the National Government has a list of who has them?
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2019, 03:28:32 am »
That covers the "Buying," now what about the "keeping" part after the National Government has a list of who has them?

What about the "keeping" part?  If you're allowed to purchase it whose going to take it from you?
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2019, 03:30:49 am »
But, then, any law controlling the sale of arms is an infringement. Is it not?

 :yowsa:  Good to see you finally catching on.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2019, 03:32:09 am »
Yeah, they definitely have to go together...

I don't have a problem with that, though.

Just wow.... have you not seen the correlation between gun registration and gun confiscation in this ole world's history? Lets just say I have a huge problem with it and so should anyone that values their right to defend themselves.

Just wow...
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2019, 03:33:25 am »
:yowsa:  Good to see you finally catching on.

Yep, even having to rent your God given right to conceal carry is unconstitutional in my opinion.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2019, 03:34:43 am »
What about the "keeping" part?  If you're allowed to purchase it whose going to take it from you?

I'm not dignifying that with an answer.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2019, 03:42:11 am »
Just wow.... have you not seen the correlation between gun registration and gun confiscation in this ole world's history? Lets just say I have a huge problem with it and so should anyone that values their right to defend themselves.

Just wow...

No I haven't. Give me an example or two and I'll research from there.
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I see.

But, if we're the well regulated militia referenced in the 2nd amendment. Shouldn't the States be regulating us? Training us? Keeping us sharp for the moment we have to defend ourselves from the tyranny of the Federal government?
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2019, 03:53:00 am »
No I haven't. Give me an example or two and I'll research from there.
I see.

But, if we're the well regulated militia referenced in the 2nd amendment. Shouldn't the States be regulating us? Training us? Keeping us sharp for the moment we have to defend ourselves from the tyranny of the Federal government?

You don't seem to understand what I'm telling you @OfTheCross. The right to self preservation is God given and predates any government. The second amendment merely reaffirms that right.  It does not grant us anything.
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2019, 04:02:14 am »
You don't seem to understand what I'm telling you @OfTheCross. The right to self preservation is God given and predates any government. The second amendment merely reaffirms that right.  It does not grant us anything.

Okay...but we're talking about laws. You can justify anything by saying your executing your God given right of self preservation.

"I only stole that loaf of bread to preserve myself". It would still be a crime punishable by law because we live in a society where we agreed to follow said laws.

So, my question to you was based on the laws we follow.

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if we're the well regulated Militia referenced in the 2nd amendment. Shouldn't the States be regulating us? Training us? Keeping us sharp for the moment we have to defend ourselves from the tyranny of the Federal government?

You can choose not to answer that and we'll just agree fight another day  ****slapping :beer:
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #20 on: September 07, 2019, 04:17:59 am »
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2019, 07:26:12 am »
Not very.

We can still have guns.

How benevolent of you.  Registration interferes with that part of the 2nd Amendment that says “shall not infringe”

Registration leads to confiscation every single time. 
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« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2019, 07:28:24 am »
So how do you plan on forcing criminals to register their guns?
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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2019, 07:59:27 am »
So how do you plan on forcing criminals to register their guns?

They'll register them when they sign up for their "liability insurance" policies!!

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Re: Flashback–Obama Admin: Universal Background Checks Need Gun Registry
« Reply #24 on: September 07, 2019, 12:34:45 pm »
But, then, any law controlling the sale of arms is an infringement. Is it not?
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