Author Topic: Sorry, Anti-Gunners, New Development In Odessa Shooting Blows Up Your Narrative  (Read 125 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline mystery-ak

  • Owner
  • Administrator
  • ******
  • Posts: 281,043
Sorry, Anti-Gunners, New Development In Odessa Shooting Blows Up Your Narrative
Matt Vespa

 @mvespa1
|
Posted: Sep 05, 2019 8:45 PM

Over the Labor Day weekend, Seth Aaron Ator shot and killed seven people. He wounded more than 20 others in his senseless rampage. Police killed him during his attack. Ator was a man marked with mental illness. As they searched his home, police noted that this man was on a downward spiral, which apparently culminated when he was fired from his job the day he committed his heinous crime. As the anti-gun Left mobilized again, many questions remained.

How did Ator get a rifle? He failed a previous background check via mental health adjudication. Well, it seems Ator obtained his firearms from someone who might have been illegally manufacturing and selling guns without a license. Firearms reporter Stephen Gutowski of the Washington Free Beacon had a good thread about this development, notably that it’s legal for a law-abiding citizen to build his own firearms for personal use/protection, but not with the intention of selling it to others. He went into some of the ATF statutes concerning what “in the business” means to the government concerning firearms sales, but added that regardless of the gray area—what this individual did as reported by the Journal concerning his transfer to Ator was “blatantly illegal”:

Quote
    The U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has been trying to piece together how Seth Aaron Ator was able to purchase the AR-15-style rifle he used to kill seven people and wound 22 before police shot and killed him.

    Ator, 36 years old, was prohibited under federal law from owning a firearm because a court had previously found him mentally unfit, law-enforcement officials previously said. He had tried to buy a gun in January 2014 but failed because a nationwide criminal-background-check system flagged the mental-health determination by a local court and prevented the purchase, according to the officials.

    Authorities suspect the Lubbock man sold Ator the gun through a private sale. Such a sale allowed Ator to purchase a gun without going through a criminal-background check. Gun-control proponents have frequently complained that private sales are a hole in the background-check system that should be addressed.

    It is unclear whether the man knew Ator was a prohibited person when selling him the rifle. If the gun dealer did in fact know that Ator was barred from buying guns, he could be charged with a federal crime. But authorities are also looking into whether the man was illegally selling guns.

    While private gun sales are legal under federal law, it is a crime to be in the business of manufacturing or selling guns without a license. Law-enforcement officials suspect the man was buying various gun parts to build his own guns and then reselling them.

more
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/05/sorry-antigunners-new-development-in-odessa-shooting-blows-up-your-narrative-n2552687
Support the USO
Democrat Party...the Party of Infanticide

Offline verga

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 4,122
BKMK
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
�More than any other time in history, mankind faces a crossroads. One path leads to despair and utter hopelessness. The other, to total extinction. Let us pray we have the wisdom to choose correctly.�-Woody Allen
If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken him completely by surprise.

Offline mrpotatohead

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 2,545
  • Goodbye B-1 and Hello B-21!
Sorry, Anti-Gunners, New Development In Odessa Shooting Blows Up Your Narrative
Matt Vespa

 @mvespa1
|
Posted: Sep 05, 2019 8:45 PM

Over the Labor Day weekend, Seth Aaron Ator shot and killed seven people. He wounded more than 20 others in his senseless rampage. Police killed him during his attack. Ator was a man marked with mental illness. As they searched his home, police noted that this man was on a downward spiral, which apparently culminated when he was fired from his job the day he committed his heinous crime. As the anti-gun Left mobilized again, many questions remained.

How did Ator get a rifle? He failed a previous background check via mental health adjudication. Well, it seems Ator obtained his firearms from someone who might have been illegally manufacturing and selling guns without a license. Firearms reporter Stephen Gutowski of the Washington Free Beacon had a good thread about this development, notably that it’s legal for a law-abiding citizen to build his own firearms for personal use/protection, but not with the intention of selling it to others. He went into some of the ATF statutes concerning what “in the business” means to the government concerning firearms sales, but added that regardless of the gray area—what this individual did as reported by the Journal concerning his transfer to Ator was “blatantly illegal”:

more
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2019/09/05/sorry-antigunners-new-development-in-odessa-shooting-blows-up-your-narrative-n2552687

They do plan to come after probably any ammo clip over 10 rounds.  Be prepared and buy those 10 round clips while you can.  It's coming...……...
Romans 5:8 "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Offline Sanguine

  • TBR Moderator
  • *****
  • Posts: 35,354
So, the laws in effect and all permutations of laws being discussed now would not have done a damn thing to prevent this creep from getting a weapon?
"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials." – George Mason, Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 1788

“Do right and risk the consequences.”
– Sam Houston

Offline Bigun

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 34,833
  • The income tax: Root of all evil!
    • The FairTax Plan
So, the laws in effect and all permutations of laws being discussed now would not have done a damn thing to prevent this creep from getting a weapon?

 :yowsa:  100% true.

Offline truth_seeker

  • Hero Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 25,439
  • Common Sense Results Oriented Conservative Veteran
So, the laws in effect and all permutations of laws being discussed now would not have done a damn thing to prevent this creep from getting a weapon?

Or he could have used a knife, or his vehicle.

Too bad this country is having to relearn to many bits of wisdom, such as

--involuntary confinement of damgerous people.

--public health in the case of homeless addict encampments and disease.

"God must love the common man, he made so many of them.�  Abe Lincoln


Share me

Digg  Facebook  SlashDot  Delicious  Technorati  Twitter  Google  Yahoo
Smf