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Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report
« on: August 28, 2019, 05:02:40 pm »
The number of concealed carry handgun permits has skyrocketed since President Obama was first elected, while murder rates have fallen, according to a new report released Wednesday.

Since 2007, the number of concealed handgun permits has soared from 4.6 million to over 12.8 million, and murder rates have fallen from 5.6 killings per 100,000 people to just 4.2, about a 25 percent drop, according to the report from the Crime Prevention Research Center.

And the number of permits issued is increasing faster every year. Over 1.7 million new permits were issued last year — a 15.4 percent increase over 2013, the largest such single-year jump ever, according to the report from the center led by President John R. Lott and research director John E. Whitley.

The number of concealed carriers is likely even higher, since permits are not required in eight states.

Gun rights advocates say that the findings in the report fall in line with their personal experiences and research and directly refute the liberal argument that more guns lead to more violence.

“It puts the lie to the myth promulgated by anti-gun individuals that somehow more law-abiding citizens carrying guns will lead to more crime. In fact, quite the opposite is the case,” said Larry Keene, senior vice president and general counsel for the National Shooting Sports Foundation. “More law-abiding citizens own firearms for self-protection, and crime continues to decline.”

But gun control advocates denounced the report, pointing to other studies showing concealed handguns are more frequently used for non-self-defense killings.

“Concealed carry killers are a threat to public safety. The evidence is clear that all too often, private citizens use their concealed handguns to take lives, not to save them,” a statement from the Violence Policy Center’s Concealed Carry Killers page reads.

A spokesperson for the center did not reply to multiple requests for comment.

According to the center, there have been 561 incidents in 36 states and the District of Columbia involving concealed handguns that have resulted in 743 deaths. “Only a tiny fraction of these cases are ever ruled to be in self-defense,” the website states.

But according to the latest report, concealed carriers are among the most law-abiding citizens in the country, even more so than police officers.

In Florida and Texas permit holders are convicted of misdemeanors of felonies at one-sixth the rate that police officers are convicted, according to the report.

“The citizen concealed carrier I don’t think ever forgets the fact that he’s a citizen on display, and he knows that he’s representative of a group of people,” said Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America. “The last thing a concealed carrier wants to do is get into a situation where they have to use the gun. Even if it were a legitimate use, they know just what kind of horrible mess their life will become once they use that gun.”

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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2019, 05:45:28 pm »
It sounds logical.  Not knowing who's armed does increase the risk to the predators, who then adjust their procedures accordingly.  Leftists are a walking, talking denial of reality, in gun control and other walks of life.  A Socialist has to deliberately ignore human nature in economics, this is no different, and is a big reason they must ignore reality on a daily basis.
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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2019, 07:03:44 pm »
Another one of those "inconvenient truths".

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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2019, 12:36:20 am »
More guns less crime.  It's a fact!
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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2019, 02:53:25 pm »
At some point even a liberal should be able to see this.
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Re: Murder rates drop as concealed carry permits soar: report
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2019, 02:16:57 am »
More guns less crime.  It's a fact!
@Bigun

Choosing just two countries off the top of my head as examples of "gun control"  I discovered that ...

Brazil has far less civil liberties and guns than the U.S. does.
But has five times the murder rate.





(Then, as a reminder to everyone about the 'fallacy' of safety when it comes to "controlling guns"):

Venezuelans regret gun ban, 'a declaration of war against an unarmed population'
https://www.foxnews.com/world/venezuelans-regret-gun-prohibition-we-could-have-defended-ourselves

Gun Control Preceded the Tyranny in Venezuela
https://fee.org/articles/gun-control-preceded-the-tyranny-in-venezuela/

How Gun Control Became an Instrument of Tyranny in Venezuela
https://outline.com/Pdjmsf

The results are not good as you can see ...

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As if coping with constant food and medicine shortages were not enough for crisis-weary Venezuelans, many live in constant fear in a country where three people die violently every hour.

The South American nation registered 26,000 homicides last year, 89 per 100,000 inhabitants and a figure 15 times the global average, according to the Venezuelan Observatory of Violence, a non-governmental group.
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