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Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« on: August 20, 2019, 05:50:57 PM »
The electoral process is outlined in the Constitution; perhaps she should actually read it before she makes such ridiculous claims.  Sad thing is; liberals believe her.  I wonder if she'll be of the same opinion once Hispanics outnumber Whites in a few years?

Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’

Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) on Monday called the U.S. Electoral College “a scam” that negatively affects minorities.

“We’re coming to you live from the Electoral College,” the New York Democrat said in a video on Instagram, which featured her driving along a sparsely populated highway in what appears to be a desert somewhere in the western part of the country. “Many votes here, as you can see. Very efficient way to choose leadership of the country. I mean I can’t think of any other way, can you?”

The freshman congresswoman went on to cite a New York magazine story titled, “Here’s Every Defense of the Electoral College — and Why They’re All Wrong.”.....

......“Due to severe racial disparities in certain states, the Electoral College effectively weighs white voters over voters of color, as opposed to a ‘one person, one vote’ system where all our votes are counted equally,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “Could you imagine if we had this kind of democracy-altering ‘fairness’ provision for literally any other group? If we weighed, for example, black and indigenous voters more because of unfairness?”

“Facts are facts America,” said the 29-year-old progressive, who represents parts of the Bronx and Queens. “The Electoral College has to go.”.............

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ocasio-cortez-electoral-college-scam-193639269.html

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2019, 06:02:36 PM »
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“Facts are facts America,” said the 29-year-old progressive  ...
who has never accepted any actual fact.
Someone tell her the electoral college allows transgendered to compete on its women's swimming team, maybe she'll approve of it then.  happy77
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 06:07:55 PM »
If only boobs were brains, Sandy-O, the bartender from the Bronx would be.... oh hell she'd still be doing Stoop bongs and Jello shots...
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 06:27:37 PM »
The owners of those fields feed that arrogantly ignorant (Brit T-Word). And the Electoral College was designed to hinder city-twits and -tw%&s from exploiting and oppressing the people who feed them.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2019, 06:28:18 PM »
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....“Due to severe racial disparities in certain states, the Electoral College effectively weighs white voters over voters of color, as opposed to a ‘one person, one vote’ system where all our votes are counted equally,” Ocasio-Cortez said. “Could you imagine if we had this kind of democracy-altering ‘fairness’ provision for literally any other group? If we weighed, for example, black and indigenous voters more because of unfairness?”

...ah....I guess she hasn't heard of Illinois and how Chicago decides our Prez candidate..
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2019, 06:33:48 PM »
It sounds like she thinks there aren't enough farmers of color to sway the rural vote.  I guess that cotton thing scarred them for generations.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2019, 08:47:03 PM »
Wow is she full of shit.  There’s enough manure there to fertilize your average farm. 

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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2019, 08:52:36 PM »
The bartender's dishonesty is second only to her stupidity.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 09:45:28 AM »
Guess What System AOC Is Now Calling Racist
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Progressive darling Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) has made it very clear that she doesn't like America as is. She has radical ideas that would dramatically change America, down to our very core. She's stated she wants to abolish Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). She wants to abolish the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). And now, she wants to abolish the Electoral College, the very system that was put in place to protect rural Americans from being outvoted by larger, more populous states.

On Monday, AOC posted an Instagram Live video explaining why she believes the Electoral College is a "scam."

"We're coming to you live from the Electoral College," Ocasio-Cortez said as she recorded an empty desert highway. "Many votes here as you can see. Very efficient way to choose leadership of the country. I mean, I can't think of any other way, can you?"

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2019, 10:02:42 AM »
Communists, like AOC, think that elections are "Bourgeois", and that they have a mandate from the "Masses" (whoever the Hell they are)

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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2019, 10:13:27 AM »
I don't know what sort of straw man arguments New York Magazine set up for the Electoral College (the better to knock them down).

I am rather certain that they did not employ the only one that matters: the purpose of the Electoral College is and was to prevent our constitutional republic from devolving into a majoritarian democracy dominated by high-density urban populations, at the expense of large, more sparsely-populated states upon whose freedom and economic vitality those concentrated populations otherwise depend.   
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2019, 10:15:39 AM »
I don't know what sort of straw man arguments New York Magazine set up for the Electoral College (the better to knock them down).

I am rather certain that they did not employ the only one that matters: the purpose of the Electoral College is and was to prevent our constitutional republic from devolving into a majoritarian democracy dominated by high-density urban populations, at the expense of large, more sparsely-populated states upon whose freedom and economic vitality those concentrated populations otherwise depend.

A small-d democrat will tell you the sparsely-populated states don't deserve protection, because they are sparsely populated. 
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2019, 10:25:21 AM »
A small-d democrat will tell you the sparsely-populated states don't deserve protection, because they are sparsely populated.

Except that such states also provide a hugely disproportionate share of the food and energy upon which urban elites depend. Otherwise, how would they be able to continue stuffing their faces in insanely expensive restaurants, while mocking and insulting ordinary Americans?
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« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2019, 10:29:11 AM »
Except that such states also provide a hugely disproportionate share of the food and energy upon which urban elites depend. Otherwise, how would they be able to continue stuffing their faces in insanely expensive restaurants, while mocking and insulting ordinary Americans?

You speak with the voice of the Founders....kudos!  An example of why we small-r republicans understand that small-d democrats are willing to plunder.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2019, 11:23:21 AM »
I am back to thinking her main job is to make Biden look smarter.
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2019, 01:45:15 PM »
I am back to thinking her main job is to make Biden look smarter.

If anyone could pull that mighty task off it would be Sandy-o, the bartendress from the Bronx.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2019, 04:31:41 PM »
Well, I was wondering where Always Occasionally Crazy had been....why she had been so quiet.

I thought maybe she had her feelings hurt because the other two kooks were getting so much attention.

Oh well, another hope dashed.

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2019, 06:22:30 PM »
I am heartened by the quality of the comments in Yahoo. What is lost on AOC and others is the EC is only one part of how we govern ourselves under a "representative republic". We are not a "democracy."

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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2019, 10:13:47 PM »
I am back to thinking her main job is to make Biden look smarter.

It's working.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2019, 10:18:34 PM »
I am heartened by the quality of the comments in Yahoo. What is lost on AOC and others is the EC is only one part of how we govern ourselves under a "representative republic". We are not a "democracy."

Only 1 of 1,000 things she has wrong about the Constitution.
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Re: Ocasio-Cortez: The Electoral College Is a ‘Scam’
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2019, 09:22:10 AM »
A small-d democrat will tell you the sparsely-populated states don't deserve protection, because they are sparsely populated.

I've heard that directly from a leftist before.
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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2019, 09:31:31 AM »
Democrats only worry about the "tyranny of the majority" when they aren't in the majority. I'd like to think that we conservatives worry about the "tyranny of the majority" all of the time.

O/T, but my BIL made it a point to remind me that I changed his mind about the EC last year. After hearing my arguments for the EC, he saw the light. I basically posited the same arguments we see on TBR.
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« Reply #22 on: August 26, 2019, 04:11:47 PM »
“Here’s the truth. Life begins at conception. Government is too big. Our taxes are too high. And our car insurance is too expensive. President Trump is doing a great job. Facts matter more than feelings. The Second Amendment is self-explanatory. And as a doctor, I can assure you there are only two genders.”


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