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FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« on: August 14, 2019, 02:31:05 pm »
FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
By Alan Cheung
August 14, 2019 Updated: August 14, 2019
 

An 18-year-old Ohio youth was arrested after he made online threats to shoot federal law enforcement officers.

After a 6-month investigation into Justin Olsen, FBI agents reportedly found 15 rifles and shotguns, ten pistols, camouflage attire, and 10,000 rounds of ammunition in his bedroom, Fox News reported.

FBI Special Agent Themistocles Tsarnas reported that Olsen threatened federal agents on a social media website called iFunny, Daily Mail reported.

Tsarnas said that the young man was making the comments under the profile name “ArmyofChrist.”

https://www.theepochtimes.com/fbi-arrests-18-year-old-who-makes-online-threat-finds-25-guns-and-10000-rounds-of-ammo_3041247.html
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2019, 02:42:03 pm »
No way!  We need to pass Red Flag laws now!
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2019, 02:48:09 pm »
A shooting enthusiast with a decent income can burn 10k rounds at the range in a few months.

But some people really need to exercise a little common sense when commenting on an open forum.
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2019, 03:02:01 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on August 14, 2019, 02:48:09 pm
A shooting enthusiast with a decent income can burn 10k rounds at the range in a few months.

But some people really need to exercise a little common sense when commenting on an open forum.

15 rifles @ 400 each =   6,000
10 pistols @ 300 each = 3,000
10,000 rounds at .15   =1,500

total is                         10,500.00

That is a lot of money for an 18 yo kid to spend on guns and ammo
also my numbers are dated since I have not bough a rifle in over 20 years and 20 years ago a new so so rifle was 400+ a good one was 1500+
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2019, 03:06:24 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on August 14, 2019, 03:02:01 pm
15 rifles @ 400 each =   6,000
10 pistols @ 300 each = 3,000
10,000 rounds at .15   =1,500

total is                         10,500.00

That is a lot of money for an 18 yo kid to spend on guns and ammo
also my numbers are dated since I have not bough a rifle in over 20 years and 20 years ago a new so so rifle was 400+ a good one was 1500+
Doesn't say who bought the ammo or how he came by the guns. Coulda been hand-me-downs.

My point is it's not so unusual to have that many guns and rounds, although the story makes it sound like it is.

The kid is obviously unbalanced and should be examined closely.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2019, 03:07:26 pm by skeeter »
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2019, 03:57:42 pm »
The Lamestream Media calls that "an arsenal."  I call it a trip to the Range.
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2019, 05:36:21 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on August 14, 2019, 03:02:01 pm
15 rifles @ 400 each =   6,000
10 pistols @ 300 each = 3,000
10,000 rounds at .15   =1,500

total is                         10,500.00

That is a lot of money for an 18 yo kid to spend on guns and ammo
also my numbers are dated since I have not bough a rifle in over 20 years and 20 years ago a new so so rifle was 400+ a good one was 1500+

The kid is 18. Can he, legally, own those handguns and rifles (I assume the shotguns would be legal, for use in hunting game birds)?
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2019, 06:13:01 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 14, 2019, 05:36:21 pm
The kid is 18. Can he, legally, own those handguns and rifles (I assume the shotguns would be legal, for use in hunting game birds)?

Not the handguns or handgun ammo.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-customer-have-be-certain-age-buy-firearms-or-ammunition-licensee

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.21
« Last Edit: August 14, 2019, 06:20:03 pm by thackney »
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 06:27:24 pm »
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2019, 11:53:38 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on August 14, 2019, 05:36:21 pm
The kid is 18. Can he, legally, own those handguns and rifles (I assume the shotguns would be legal, for use in hunting game birds)?

Ohio provides no minimum age for the possession of firearms, although federal age restrictions still apply.

Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition.



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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2019, 03:10:01 am »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 14, 2019, 02:42:03 pm
No way!  We need to pass Red Flag laws now!

Online threat against Feds, caught immediately.

Threat written on paper against fellow high school students, notice by principal, no action...

It's that latter that a correctly drawn red flag law would address by giving the principal standing to seek an injunction, presenting the written threat as evidence, against the threatening student possessing firearms.
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2019, 03:15:10 am »
Quote from: jpsb on August 14, 2019, 03:02:01 pm
15 rifles @ 400 each =   6,000
10 pistols @ 300 each = 3,000
10,000 rounds at .15   =1,500

total is                         10,500.00

That is a lot of money for an 18 yo kid to spend on guns and ammo
also my numbers are dated since I have not bough a rifle in over 20 years and 20 years ago a new so so rifle was 400+ a good one was 1500+

At least in some places you can pick up a perfectly serviceable Mosin-Nagant for about $200. 
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2019, 10:47:21 am »
Quote from: Elderberry on August 14, 2019, 11:53:38 pm
Minimum Age for Gun Possession: Subject to limited exceptions*, federal law prohibits the possession of a handgun or handgun ammunition by any person under the age of 18. Federal law provides no minimum age for the possession of long guns or long gun ammunition.

REALLY? LOL! How dumb is that?
I had my first handgun early... a .22 for dispatching critters in my traps. I can't rightly say when that was, maybe 12 of so... Certainly by 15, because I had my DL by then and could run long trap lines...

Both my boys had handguns right along with their rifles - Both blooded somewhere around 13.. If you can hunt, you need a pistol, and a big one... You don't walk off into the woods without one.

What a ridiculous law.
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2019, 10:50:24 am »
Quote from: The_Reader_David on August 15, 2019, 03:10:01 am
Online threat against Feds, caught immediately.

Threat written on paper against fellow high school students, notice by principal, no action...

It's that latter that a correctly drawn red flag law would address by giving the principal standing to seek an injunction, presenting the written threat as evidence, against the threatening student possessing firearms.

Riiiight. a principal who is a flaming liberal that will kick a kid out of school for even drawing a picture of a gun... Be careful what you wish for, @The_Reader_David ...
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2019, 11:55:15 am »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on August 14, 2019, 03:57:42 pm
The Lamestream Media calls that "an arsenal."  I call it a trip to the Range.
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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2019, 11:58:55 am »
Quote from: thackney on August 14, 2019, 06:13:01 pm
Not the handguns or handgun ammo.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-customer-have-be-certain-age-buy-firearms-or-ammunition-licensee

http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/2923.21
Actually your source says that he may own a handgun, he just may not purchase one. He could have received it as a gift.
I am not saying that is what happened, but he could definitely legally own one.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2019, 12:17:31 pm »
Quote from: verga on August 15, 2019, 11:58:55 am
Actually your source says that he may own a handgun, he just may not purchase one. He could have received it as a gift.
I am not saying that is what happened, but he could definitely legally own one.

Thank you
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Re: FBI Arrests 18-Year-Old Who Makes Online Threat, Finds 25 Guns and 10,000 Rounds of Ammo
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2019, 01:41:18 pm »
Quote from: The_Reader_David on August 15, 2019, 03:10:01 am
Online threat against Feds, caught immediately.

Threat written on paper against fellow high school students, notice by principal, no action...

It's that latter that a correctly drawn red flag law would address by giving the principal standing to seek an injunction, presenting the written threat as evidence, against the threatening student possessing firearms.

"Notice by principal"?  Does that mean the principle did not give notice?  In that case the problem is with the principle, not the process.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2019, 02:11:05 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 15, 2019, 01:41:18 pm
"Notice by principal"?  Does that mean the principle did not give notice?  In that case the problem is with the principle, not the process.
About 20 years ago I had a student that threatened suicide to me. I notified the Principal. He immediately pulled the kid And got him in front of a guidance counselor. He was referred to the Community services board by the school psychologist and was able to get some serious help. I have always counted that as a win. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2019, 02:15:03 pm »
Quote from: verga on August 15, 2019, 02:11:05 pm
About 20 years ago I had a student that threatened suicide to me. I notified the Principal. He immediately pulled the kid And got him in front of a guidance counselor. He was referred to the Community services board by the school psychologist and was able to get some serious help. I have always counted that as a win.

Exactly.  A normal person would do that. 
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