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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #325 on: August 12, 2019, 08:51:03 pm »
I think @bigheadfred said he was in the SHU. If that is so he had no means to commit suicide.



I know that in Texas (due to felonious stupidity from a relative) that they are wrapped up in a straight jacket like garment.  But they don't have cell mates.

I don't know about where he was and he was taken off suicide watch. :shrug:

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #326 on: August 12, 2019, 08:54:55 pm »


I know that in Texas (due to felonious stupidity from a relative) that they are wrapped up in a straight jacket like garment.  But they don't have cell mates.

I don't know about where he was and he was taken off suicide watch. :shrug:

It's all in that link that Myst posted:  Epstein's attorneys asked for him to be taken off suicide watch before death: Report
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/epsteins-attorneys-asked-for-him-to-be-taken-off-suicide-watch-before-death-report

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #327 on: August 12, 2019, 08:56:33 pm »


I know that in Texas (due to felonious stupidity from a relative) that they are wrapped up in a straight jacket like garment.  But they don't have cell mates.

I don't know about where he was and he was taken off suicide watch. :shrug:

He would not have been necessarily straight-jacketed, but in the SHU especially, nothing sharp, the sheets too thin and made to tear...

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #328 on: August 12, 2019, 09:07:20 pm »
It's all in that link that Myst posted:  Epstein's attorneys asked for him to be taken off suicide watch before death: Report
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/epsteins-attorneys-asked-for-him-to-be-taken-off-suicide-watch-before-death-report



Thanks for the link @Sanguine and Myst.

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #329 on: August 12, 2019, 09:13:28 pm »
He would not have been necessarily straight-jacketed, but in the SHU especially, nothing sharp, the sheets too thin and made to tear...



This is going to sound very cold hearted since the man had no conviction....but I really don't care what happened to him.  It appears he dabbled in some very dicey things and with some pretty high profile people. What's the saying?  You play your money and ya get the prize.

I was just throwing out an alternative possibility .


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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #330 on: August 12, 2019, 09:16:42 pm »


This is going to sound very cold hearted since the man had no conviction....but I really don't care what happened to him.  It appears he dabbled in some very dicey things and with some pretty high profile people. What's the saying?  You play your money and ya get the prize.

I was just throwing out an alternative possibility .

That's right. Other than the convenience of his 'suicide' wrt others who should likewise be behind bars.

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #331 on: August 12, 2019, 09:19:40 pm »


This is going to sound very cold hearted since the man had no conviction....but I really don't care what happened to him.  It appears he dabbled in some very dicey things and with some pretty high profile people. What's the saying?  You play your money and ya get the prize.

I was just throwing out an alternative possibility .

He at least deserved a trial before his execution.

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #332 on: August 12, 2019, 09:47:37 pm »
He at least deserved a trial before his execution.

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #333 on: August 12, 2019, 10:09:40 pm »
I think @bigheadfred said he was in the SHU. If that is so he had no means to commit suicide.

That is what I read.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/after-his-suicide-watch-ended-jeffrey-epstein-was-left-to-look-after-himself

After His Suicide Watch Ended, Jeffrey Epstein Was Left to Look After Himself

Epstein was returned from the suicide prevention room to the Special Housing Unit, where he had been found lying prone on the floor of his cell last month. The SHU doubles as a discipline unit and as a refuge for inmates who fear for their safety in the general population, as Epstein reportedly did.

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #334 on: August 12, 2019, 10:16:05 pm »
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #336 on: August 12, 2019, 10:36:43 pm »
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #337 on: August 12, 2019, 10:41:13 pm »
Something that casts some shade on the idea of an "unassisted" suicide, is that I believe he was still waiting for his appeal ruling on his bail request to come back....

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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #338 on: August 12, 2019, 10:44:12 pm »
The SHU doubles as a discipline unit and as a refuge for inmates who fear for their safety in the general population, as Epstein reportedly did.

For folks that maybe don't understand the lingo, pretty much every detention, from county on up has a SHU (shoe), and there are pretty standard protocols (generally) wrt operations. The SHU in any detention is likely the most highly regulated/monitored section of the whole joint, with the possible exception of a mental ward (if they have one).




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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #339 on: August 12, 2019, 10:46:24 pm »
Something that casts some shade on the idea of an "unassisted" suicide, is that I believe he was still waiting for his appeal ruling on his bail request to come back....

 :shrug:

There is currently so much shade on that it's hard to find any light at all.
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #341 on: August 13, 2019, 01:32:25 pm »
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #342 on: August 13, 2019, 01:33:09 pm »
Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself with bedsheet: Report
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-hanged-himself-with-bed-sheet-report

Sorry... not buying it.   I believe Epstein was an egotistical coward and as such, too chicken to "off" himself.   Plus, there's that pesky report that he claimed that somebody tried to kill him previously... an incident that was "also" reported (conveniently) as his suicide attempt.   I'm calling BS.
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #343 on: August 13, 2019, 01:49:08 pm »
I was under the impression former prisoners had indicated there's nothing on the beds to which a bedsheet (which we heard were just like paper) could be tied in any manner that would facilitate hanging oneself.
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #344 on: August 13, 2019, 01:50:16 pm »
Sorry... not buying it.   I believe Epstein was an egotistical coward and as such, too chicken to "off" himself.   Plus, there's that pesky report that he claimed that somebody tried to kill him previously... an incident that was "also" reported (conveniently) as his suicide attempt.   I'm calling BS.

And besides all that, bedsheets in the kind of place he was being held are made of paper designed to tear easily.  No sale indeed!
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #345 on: August 13, 2019, 02:13:09 pm »
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #346 on: August 13, 2019, 02:17:04 pm »
And besides all that, bedsheets in the kind of place he was being held are made of paper designed to tear easily.  No sale indeed!

They think (and wish) that we are so gullible that we'll believe any crap they spew.   Most of us have been observing their spew for decades and know only too well how they LIE.
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #347 on: August 13, 2019, 02:25:28 pm »
They think (and wish) that we are so gullible that we'll believe any crap they spew.   Most of us have been observing their spew for decades and know only too well how they LIE.
Don Lapre killed himself the same way.

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« Reply #348 on: August 13, 2019, 02:27:06 pm »
Besides, why would a Dixie Mafia go so far as to kill someone when discrediting them as a liar and a crank is far easier and more effective?
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Re: BREAKING - Sources: Jeffrey Epstein dies by suicide in Manhattan jail
« Reply #349 on: August 13, 2019, 03:05:31 pm »
Besides, why would a Dixie Mafia go so far as to kill someone when discrediting them as a liar and a crank is far easier and more effective?

"Dixie Mafia"?   What does that mean?