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Another victim passed within the hour..make that 22killed  8888crybaby

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Trump said "involuntary confinement"

Thank you.

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If social media algorithms can learn your preferences, in order to advertise and curate for you....

....then why not identify you for possible mental health violent concerns?


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Trump said "involuntary confinement"

Thank you.

IDEA:

If social media algorithms can learn your preferences, in order to advertise and curate for you....

....then why not identify you for possible mental health violent concerns?

I asked that question earlier, and it is a real puzzle.   Priorities, I guess.

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Analysis of internet and social media was mentioned in the speech.


"We must recognize that the internet has provided a dangerous avenue to radicalize disturbed minds and perform demented acts," Trump said Monday in the wake of shootings in El Paso, Texas and Dayton, Ohio which left 29 people dead. "We must shine light on the dark recesses of the internet and stop mass murders before they start."

"The perils of the internet and social media cannot be ignored and they will not be ignored," Trump said.

"I've asked the FBI to investigate and disrupt hate crimes and domestic terrorism. Whatever they need," Trump continued. "First, we must do a better job of identifying and acting on early warning signs. I am directing the Department of Justice to work in partnership with local, state and federal agencies as well as well as social media companies to develop tools that can detect mass shooters before they strike."


https://www.newsweek.com/trump-mass-shooter-detection-software-social-media-1452612


How far does this go, however? I’m not a Q believer, but, I didn’t find this story particularly reassuring.


FBI says QAnon conspiracy theories a domestic terrorism threat

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/aug/1/fbi-says-qanon-conspiracy-theories-domestic-terror/
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Trump said "involuntary confinement"

Thank you.

IDEA:

If social media algorithms can learn your preferences, in order to advertise and curate for you....

....then why not identify you for possible mental health violent concerns?

A few predictive algorithms and some AI to analyze the massive amount of data, then what do we get?

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A few predictive algorithms and some AI to analyze the massive amount of data, then what do we get?



Yeah, this is definitely in the category of "be careful what you are asking for....."

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Thank you. I did not know that. I knew they could legally cross into America for a day at a time,but didn't know any of the details
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It's the same for us going into Mexico. I mostly just went to the border towns. Once though we were going to drive to Monterrey so at the border after I crossed into Mexico I applied for a visa. That was many years ago. I seem to remember it was 40 miles into Mexico where you needed a visa. I don't even know what the rules are now.

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Trump is going to El Paso is Beto going to allow this?

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Trump is going to El Paso is Beto going to allow this?

The Libs are trashing the El Paso mayor for welcoming the President to the city.
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The Libs are trashing the El Paso mayor for welcoming the President to the city.


She’s been in disagreement with him over the characterization of the city, vis-a-vis border crime/wall. However, she understands he brings federal resources the city needs for investigation and prosecution. So, she’s making the right call for EP citizens, whether they like it or not.
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Trump said "involuntary confinement"

Thank you.

IDEA:

If social media algorithms can learn your preferences, in order to advertise and curate for you....

....then why not identify you for possible mental health violent concerns?

I thought that was what your regular MD was for?
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Just out of curiousity,anybody seen JEB lately?

No jobs,no prospects,no mamma to tell him what to do.........
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Mexican officials have stated that they may try to extradite Crusius.  He's probably pooping his pants over the idea of being in a Mexican prison. They don't have the death penalty, but he would be surrounded by people he hates and that wouldn't end well.

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I only have tweets for this and it was apparently a false alarm but there was a panic at the least in Houston just this afternoon:
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Fears of an active shooter cause mass panic at Memorial City Mall in Houston; police have found no evidence of a shooting


https://twitter.com/BNONews/status/1160656010060685313

No press stories have come out on this, apparently, there is nothing to this but it sounds like they were on alert, maybe someone lit firecrackers, motorcycle backfire, it could be many things.

There's actually video at the link of people running away... so, good if there was no threat to begin with, which is what it sounds like but something spooked these people.  Mass hysteria, all kinds of things, a lot of things make a loud pop too sometimes
« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 09:54:09 pm by TomSea »

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I only have tweets for this and it was apparently a false alarm but there was a panic at the least in Houston just this afternoon:
No press stories have come out on this, apparently, there is nothing to this but it sounds like they were on alert, maybe someone lit firecrackers, motorcycle backfire, it could be many things.

There's actually video at the link of people running away... so, good if there was no threat to begin with, which is what it sounds like but something spooked these people.  Mass hysteria, all kinds of things, a lot of things make a loud pop too sometimes
Seems a guy could have a lot of twisted 'fun' with a pack of Black Cats and a match in a crowded place.
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Seems a guy could have a lot of twisted 'fun' with a pack of Black Cats and a match in a crowded place.
@Smokin Joe @sneakypete Now on the other hand Smokin Joe might just be a Sociopath. Just ignore the voices in your head, unless they are telling you to send me money.
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If God invented marathons to keep people from doing anything more stupid, the triathlon must have taken him completely by surprise.

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@Smokin Joe @sneakypete Now on the other hand Smokin Joe might just be a Sociopath. Just ignore the voices in your head, unless they are telling you to send me money.
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 LOL! No, I'm no sociopath. It's gallows humor. Note, I put 'fun' in '' marks.
But let me put it this way.
In the US each year, on average (last 20 years), according to NOAA, fifty one people are struck by lightning and killed.
Your chances of being killed by lightning are roughly double those of being killed in a mass shooting.
 
There are intangibles, however, and they may increase the odds of being shot.

Of course, it's an election year, the Communists (They aren't mere Socialists or Progressives, they aren't liberals, they are Leftists, followers of Marx and Engels, and that makes them Communists, with all the negative totalitarian images that can bring forth) are braying their particular brands of hatred across the land.

Keep in mind the inspiration for Goebbels was Communist (Bolshevik) propaganda films, and a far better study of such things has been made since, including emotional manipulation by imagery, creating feelings in groups ("positive" or "negative"), and the ever present "Big Lie" techniques which have been refined and mastered by none other than Hollywood and Television Media over the time since. It makes for great and impactful drama and fiction on the big screen. But there is a dark side to that as well.
Right now, those techniques are being used to panic the American People, like a herd of frightened sheep, into demanding that their Rights be taken away. They are likely also driving some poor SOB over the edge somewhere, too. If you had the misfortune to believe what you heard on the broadcast channels, looped a go-zillion times a day for your viewing convenience, you'd probably go nuts, too. You might even begin to believe that drivel...

Don't let that be successful.

If the terrorists change you, if they instill fear in you (fear, not caution), they win. If they take freedom from you, or cause you to demand it be removed, they win--no matter who the terrorists are, no matter whose side they claim to be on.

I'm a mite more defiant than that.
 
I'm even more defiant when those who are supposed to be safeguarding our Rights (the reason Governments are instituted among people) are waving the white flag of surrender and demanding we surrender our Rights, whether those Rights include being free from having our property and freedom taken summarily without due process, whether that includes banning body armour for our personal defense at the most passive level, whether that be demanding any further limitations on our right to select the hardware we find appropriate to defend our selves, homes, families, and community.
I really don't care what Party they claim to represent.

No, damnit, enough!

Small wonder people wonder if these are false flag events, with the vultures in Congress ready to pounce at a moment's notice, rushing to raise money over the still cooling bodies of the unfortunate victims, trying to turn them, regardless of the victims or their families beliefs, into poster children for their totalitarian machinations. That, to me, makes them the most insidious terrorists of all, and by promoting panic they only further their cause to the detriment of our Republic.

Not one thing they have proposed would have stopped the people who committed these acts, especially banning body armor, for Pete's sake.

I implore you, and all who read this, Don't let them win. Put these events in perspective. Go about your daily life. Pay attention to what is happening around you, sure, you should do that anyway. It has been years since I entered a room without looking for exits and cover and even items which could be used as weapons in a pinch. That's just my nature. Be aware, not afraid.

And for the sake of all who follow us, demand our Rights be kept intact, because once taken or given up, they are hard to recover.
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 LOL! No, I'm no sociopath. It's gallows humor. Note, I put 'fun' in '' marks.
But let me put it this way.
In the US each year, on average (last 20 years), according to NOAA, fifty one people are struck by lightning and killed.
Your chances of being killed by lightning are roughly double those of being killed in a mass shooting.
I pretty much agree with everything you said. There are two things that really torque me off about this whole mess.
1) The libtards are using this as an ample opportunity to fundraise and demagogue the current administration
2) The mad rush to surrender our rights for the false sense of security.

I have several liberal relatives and they keep advocating "gun control" I tell them there are approx 22K laws about the sale and use of firearms, waht law will you put in place that would stop these type of things from happening? They never have an answer.
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I pretty much agree with everything you said. There are two things that really torque me off about this whole mess.
1) The libtards are using this as an ample opportunity to fundraise and demagogue the current administration
2) The mad rush to surrender our rights for the false sense of security.

I have several liberal relatives and they keep advocating "gun control" I tell them there are approx 22K laws about the sale and use of firearms, waht law will you put in place that would stop these type of things from happening? They never have an answer.
It's frustrating to watch the propagandists panic the sheep. I just hope the flock stays away from the cliff....and that people come to their senses before the Congress can wreck something else.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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@Smokin Joe

"In the US each year, on average (last 20 years), according to NOAA, fifty one people are struck by lightning and killed."
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In 2002, when husband was Republican County Chair in our county, we had a fine man running for county judge.  He was out on his property, and was struck by lightning.  It went into his body and out his feet.  He was taken to hospital and checked and thought to be fine except his shoes were ruined.

A few days later, he dropped dead from heart attack.  When lightning hits something, it is destroyed and must have done damage to his heart that the hospital did not find.

There is a cut off date when a candidate cannot be removed from the ballot.  He died in October, after that date, so his name could not be taken off our ballot.  The whole county knew he died, and so many liked this man, even in death they voted for him and he almost beat the Democrat running for that job.

Two brothers killed instantly: Not long ago, in Fort Worth, there was a storm, and electric lines came down.  Two early teen aged brothers touch a downed line and both were killed instantly.  Electricity is another form of lightning - same principal.

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@Smokin Joe @sneakypete Now on the other hand Smokin Joe might just be a Sociopath. Just ignore the voices in your head, unless they are telling you to send me money.

@Smokin Joe   @verga

I have a dirty little secret I will admit to doing. The summer the movie "JAWS" (edit,damn chemo brain!) came out I was living on the oceanfront,and was usually going down at roughly the same time the sun was coming up.

As I walked off the fishing pier one morning after enjoying a few cups of coffee,I happened to notice all the tourists swimming near the pier (a truly world-class BAD idea),and just laying on the beach,

This inspired me,so I started  jumping up and down in panic,pointing out in the water,and screaming "shark! shark!" at the top of my voice. I swear some people were swimming for the  beach so fast they were creating bow waves. Others on the beach were just running around and circles and hopping up and down.

One of the funniest things I have ever seen,

BAD sneakypete,BAD!
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Right now, those techniques are being used to panic the American People, like a herd of frightened sheep, into demanding that their Rights be taken away. They are likely also driving some poor SOB over the edge somewhere, too. If you had the misfortune to believe what you heard on the broadcast channels, looped a go-zillion times a day for your viewing convenience, you'd probably go nuts, too. You might even begin to believe that drivel...
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That is exactly, precisely what is being perpetuated upon us right now. 

Great rant, @Smokin Joe!

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"Keep in mind the inspiration for Goebbels was Communist (Bolshevik) propaganda films, and a far better study of such things has been made since, including emotional manipulation by imagery, creating feelings in groups ("positive" or "negative"), and the ever present "Big Lie" techniques which have been refined and mastered by none other than Hollywood and Television Media over the time since. It makes for great and impactful drama and fiction on the big screen. But there is a dark side to that as well.
Right now, those techniques are being used to panic the American People, like a herd of frightened sheep, into demanding that their Rights be taken away. They are likely also driving some poor SOB over the edge somewhere, too. If you had the misfortune to believe what you heard on the broadcast channels, looped a go-zillion times a day for your viewing convenience, you'd probably go nuts, too. You might even begin to believe that drivel..."


The mass panic techniques were used after 911 and now the sheeple line up like lambs to be felt up by TSA and told how much hand cream to bring on an airplane. You are absolutely correct. It's happening again.
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