O'Rourke predicts Democrats 'can win Texas' away from Trump in 2020

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O'Rourke predicts Democrats 'can win Texas' away from Trump in 2020
By Rebecca Klar - 07/31/19 09:44 AM EDT

Democratic presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke, a former Texas congressman, said his party can win his home state in 2020.

“With Texas, we defeat Donald Trump but we also change the electoral landscape of the United States for ever after,” O’Rourke told MSNBC after Tuesday night’s debate. “This is how we begin to build the majority we need to pass this really ambitious legislation on health care or climate or immigration.”

“We can put Texas in play, and furthermore, we can win Texas," he told MSNBC reporters in a separate post-debate panel, POLITICO reports.

Texas has not chosen a Democratic presidential candidate since Jimmy Carter in 1976. But after O’Rourke’s close 2018 campaign against Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), the party views the state as one vehicle for the 2020 Democratic nominee to beat President Trump.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/455507-orourke-predicts-democrats-can-win-texas-away-from-trump-in-2020

[Wingnut]

I wouldn't take advice on winning a statewide election from a loser such as Little Bob O"rourke.

[dfwgator]

 

[Bigun]

Is Paddy running his mouth again?

[austingirl]

Robert Francis' last desperate gasp of hope to make himself relevant. He isn't. Must be hard after his rock-star status in his losing effort in Texas.

[libertybele]

Is Paddy running his mouth again?

Not so sure that he's just running his mouth. Due to the influx of Hispanics and the change in demographics he could be correct and certainly his narrow loss to Cruz is cause for concern.  According to the 2010 census Hispanics made up 38.2% of the population. Obviously the Hispanic population has grown; in 2022 they are projected to be the largest population in TX.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Texas
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/21/hispanic-texans-pace-become-biggest-population-group-state-2022/

[mountaineer]

I wouldn't take advice on winning a statewide election from a loser such as Little Bob O"rourke.

Robby just barely lost, which is very disturbing. What the heck happened to Texas?

[libertybele]

Robby just barely lost, which is very disturbing. What the heck happened to Texas?

The Hispanic population has boomed.  I believe it's that simple.

[austingirl]

Robby just barely lost, which is very disturbing. What the heck happened to Texas?

The amount of out-of-state money was astronomical for a Senate race. And a constant fawning adoring press did their best to portray the empty suit as a viable candidate.

[corbe]

   Most Trumpers, under no circumstances, could pull the lever for 'Lyin' Ted, is my current theory.

[austingirl]

   Most Trumpers, under no circumstances, could pull the lever for 'Lyin' Ted, is my current theory.

Nope. I was for Cruz until the end. Voted for Trump as a pragmatist. I am a Trump Realist, not a Trumper.

[Bigun]

Robby just barely lost, which is very disturbing. What the heck happened to Texas?

Ballot harvesting on a grand scale in the big cities.

[Smokin Joe]

https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/texas/senate/

The map tends to confirm both theories, a combined Hispanic/Dems from elsewhere influx, partly to urban districts, which went Dem.

[thackney]

Not so sure that he's just running his mouth. Due to the influx of Hispanics and the change in demographics he could be correct and certainly his narrow loss to Cruz is cause for concern.  According to the 2010 census Hispanics made up 38.2% of the population. Obviously the Hispanic population has grown; in 2022 they are projected to be the largest population in TX.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanics_and_Latinos_in_Texas
https://www.texastribune.org/2018/06/21/hispanic-texans-pace-become-biggest-population-group-state-2022/

Texas hispanic population share has been growing for decades, right along with Texas republican growth in Government.

Don't believe a Texas Hispanic refinery worker has the same political leanings as a California Hispanic welfare queen.

[Wingnut]

Texas hispanic population share has been growing for decades, right along with Texas republican growth in Government.

Don't believe a Texas Hispanic refinery worker has the same political leanings as a California Hispanic welfare queen.

 

[Night Hides Not]

The Hispanic population has boomed.  I believe it's that simple.

Intellectual laziness IMO .

I married into a huge Hispanic family, they’re now conservatives and vote Republican. If you’re going to point fingers, I suggest you point them at newcomers to the state, who don’t understand the ethos and culture of Texas.

Trump’s NY bombastic style generally does not go over well with the average Texan. He may have won Texas, but Cruz won all but 4 counties during the primary.

[Fishrrman]

bele wrote:
"Not so sure that he's just running his mouth. Due to the influx of Hispanics and the change in demographics he could be correct and certainly his narrow loss to Cruz is cause for concern.  According to the 2010 census Hispanics made up 38.2% of the population. Obviously the Hispanic population has grown; in 2022 they are projected to be the largest population in TX."

Not sure how accurate this graphic is, but it's worth a look:


Addendum:
I believe "white" in the graphic refers to NON-HISPANIC "whites" -- commonly referred to as "Anglos"...

[corbe]

   Thanks for Sharing that @Fishrrman 

[austingirl]

Texas hispanic population share has been growing for decades, right along with Texas republican growth in Government.

Don't believe a Texas Hispanic refinery worker has the same political leanings as a California Hispanic welfare queen.

 

[libertybele]

So, there are no welfare kings and queens in TX?  No voter fraud?  No Hispanics that were granted asylum who are now eligible to vote?

Nearly half of Texans under 18 are Latino and 95 percent of them are U.S. citizens — meaning they will be eligible to vote once they turn 18.

Latinos made up a notable share of eligible voters in several states with competitive races for U.S. Senate and governor, including Texas (30%), Arizona (23%), Florida (20%) and Nevada (19%). In these states, Democrats won the Latino vote, sometimes by a wide margin. In the Texas Senate race, 64% of Latinos voted for Democrat Beto O’Rourke while 35% voted for Republican incumbent Ted Cruz. In the state’s race for governor, about half of Hispanics (53%) voted for Democrat Lupe Valdez and 42% backed the Republican, Greg Abbott.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/young-texas-latinos-are-untapped-voting-goldmine-n871206

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/09/how-latinos-voted-in-2018-midterms/

[austingirl]

So, there are no welfare kings and queens in TX?  No voter fraud?  No Hispanics that were granted asylum who are now eligible to vote?

Nearly half of Texans under 18 are Latino and 95 percent of them are U.S. citizens — meaning they will be eligible to vote once they turn 18.

Latinos made up a notable share of eligible voters in several states with competitive races for U.S. Senate and governor, including Texas (30%), Arizona (23%), Florida (20%) and Nevada (19%). In these states, Democrats won the Latino vote, sometimes by a wide margin. In the Texas Senate race, 64% of Latinos voted for Democrat Beto O’Rourke while 35% voted for Republican incumbent Ted Cruz. In the state’s race for governor, about half of Hispanics (53%) voted for Democrat Lupe Valdez and 42% backed the Republican, Greg Abbott.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/young-texas-latinos-are-untapped-voting-goldmine-n871206

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/09/how-latinos-voted-in-2018-midterms/

Of course there's welfare fraud and voter fraud. The point of the original post is that not all Latinos are liberal. I agreed with the poster.

[Victoria33]

My thoughts on Texas about the numbers:
Although Beto is a sleaze, he went to every county in Texas when he ran against Cruz - 254 counties.  He even went to Gregg County, where Longview is and that is where I was born and where I had my children.  No one goes to Longview, never hear of Longview.  Well, he went there.  Then, I saw the huge numbers of Democrats voting in the primary and couldn't believe it - never happened before.  Beto made a big dent in numbers by going to every county.  He woke up the Democrats.

Spanish people:
The Spanish are big on family - they tend to be religious Catholics - I doubt many of them are for abortion.  They are not voting illegally in Texas due to the way our voting system is set up.
I went to Montgomery County this past weekend.  I have a townhouse there and a Mexican man, Juan, watches/checks my townhouse for me.  He owns a construction company and we talked about he came to Texas at age 15 and became a citizen.  There is no way this man or his wife is liberal.  They are not Democrats.

Now, I do think because Democrats made such a showing at that primary and the following November election, we do stand to lose Republicans in our county and state government, and it is possible the state goes Democrat for president.  I never thought I would think that.  I hope it doesn't happen.

[catfish1957]

bele wrote:
"Not so sure that he's just running his mouth. Due to the influx of Hispanics and the change in demographics he could be correct and certainly his narrow loss to Cruz is cause for concern.  According to the 2010 census Hispanics made up 38.2% of the population. Obviously the Hispanic population has grown; in 2022 they are projected to be the largest population in TX."

Not sure how accurate this graphic is, but it's worth a look:


Addendum:
I believe "white" in the graphic refers to NON-HISPANIC "whites" -- commonly referred to as "Anglos"...

@Fishrrman

What you also may not realize is that a huge contingent of Spanish in Texas are of the Tejano extract, meaning their people were there pre-Texas Independence, even back to 1700's.  It might suprise you that many of these do not like the hoard from the south, and lean  conservatively.  Texas turning blue may be an inevitability, but it's not happening in my lifetime.

[thackney]

So, there are no welfare kings and queens in TX?  No voter fraud?  No Hispanics that were granted asylum who are now eligible to vote?

Nearly half of Texans under 18 are Latino and 95 percent of them are U.S. citizens — meaning they will be eligible to vote once they turn 18.

Latinos made up a notable share of eligible voters in several states with competitive races for U.S. Senate and governor, including Texas (30%), Arizona (23%), Florida (20%) and Nevada (19%). In these states, Democrats won the Latino vote, sometimes by a wide margin. In the Texas Senate race, 64% of Latinos voted for Democrat Beto O’Rourke while 35% voted for Republican incumbent Ted Cruz. In the state’s race for governor, about half of Hispanics (53%) voted for Democrat Lupe Valdez and 42% backed the Republican, Greg Abbott.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/young-texas-latinos-are-untapped-voting-goldmine-n871206

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/09/how-latinos-voted-in-2018-midterms/

The reality is more important than polls, which are often false.

Reality is while hispanic population in Texas has been growing, at the same time republican control of Texas government has grown.  More seats to republicans while more population is hispanic.

Most (not all) come to Texas for jobs.  And they are not all coming from Mexico.  Some were already here and fought starting at the Alamo.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I wouldn't take advice on winning a statewide election from a loser such as Little Bob O"rourke.

Well, he is right about this

but we also change the electoral landscape of the United States for ever after